2014 Draft Discussion

[redsrule]

Re: 2014 Draft Class

Craft is not going to be anything more than someone to fill out a bench spot. Considering how his defense was based on hand checks and arm bars, lets see how he does this year now that he can't get away with that stuff.

[ojandpizza]

Re: 2014 Draft Class

Gerald Green though?

Nah seriously, Gerald Green though? Lol

Well a lot better than Green, but just comparing play style.. I haven't saw anything from him to show me he's going to have a big skill set right away..

He's hard at the rim for dunks, with some awkward floaters and shoot 3's even though his outside shot isn't great... Which is Gerald Green play style.

Not saying I think he'll end up being Gerald Green, just his style compares to that more than the highly-skilled guys who've been mentioned..

But he has all the upside you could ask for.. In a few weeks he could totally change my mind lol. I'm glad he's in college and didn't have the opportunity for the straight to NBA jump. I think he would have struggled.

[ojandpizza]

Re: 2014 Draft Class

Craft is not going to be anything more than someone to fill out a bench spot. Considering how his defense was based on hand checks and arm bars, lets see how he does this year now that he can't get away with that stuff.

Kirk Hinrich and Mario Chalmers

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Well a lot better than Green, but just comparing play style.. I haven't saw anything from him to show me he's going to have a big skill set right away..

He's hard at the rim for dunks, with some awkward floaters and shoot 3's even though his outside shot isn't great... Which is Gerald Green play style.

Not saying I think he'll end up being Gerald Green, just his style compares to that more than the highly-skilled guys who've been mentioned..

But he has all the upside you could ask for.. In a few weeks he could totally change my mind lol. I'm glad he's in college and didn't have the opportunity for the straight to NBA jump. I think he would have struggled.

Dunking hard shouldn't necessarily equate to Gerald Green or anybody for that matter though, lol.

I have no idea who his skill set is comparable to(didn't get involved in the media slobbering over him)after one game but I definitely would say it's Gerald Green, considering his BBIQ wasn't and still isn't there and outside of dunking, can't provide much else.

[ehh]

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Aaron Craft is Greg Paulus. He's not sniffing the league.

[redsrule]

Re: 2014 Draft Class

Kirk Hinrich and Mario Chalmers

Don't see the comparison at all. Craft is a good college player, won't be a good pro (at least in the NBA).

Dunking hard shouldn't necessarily equate to Gerald Green or anybody for that matter though, lol.

I have no idea who his skill set is comparable to(didn't get involved in the media slobbering over him)after one game but I definitely would say it's Gerald Green, considering his BBIQ wasn't and still isn't there and outside of dunking, can't provide much else.

Wiggins has the potential to be a lock down defender. He doesn't have a good jumper though and disappears from games and takes plays off standing on the perimeter with his hands on his hips. Even if he "busts" he will still be a good defender in the league and someone who can be explosive on offense.

[ojandpizza]

Re: 2014 Draft Class

Aaron Craft is Greg Paulus. He's not sniffing the league.

Paulus switched sports to play football

[ojandpizza]

Re: 2014 Draft Class

Don't see the comparison at all. Craft is a good college player, won't be a good pro (at least in the NBA).

I just meant in terms of playing defense using an arm bar and hand-checking..

Chalmers and Hinrich do that all the time. Chalmers is sneaky as **** with it too.

[ehh]

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Paulus switched sports to play football

I'm aware. And? He did it because he had no future as a pro basketball player.

[redsrule]

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Paulus switched sports to play football

He did that because he had 0 chance of making the NBA.

I just meant in terms of playing defense using an arm bar and hand-checking..

Chalmers and Hinrich do that all the time. Chalmers is sneaky as **** with it too.

Fair enough. They are calling that stuff a lot now in college through the first few games, so it will be interesting to see how he plays. Looking at their schedule though, they don't play anyone with a "great" PG so he might be able to get away with it. Unless he has to guard Gary Harris at Michigan State. Harris will dominate Craft if that happens.

[jeebs9]

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Seriously doubt Wiggins will fall that far down even if he is a bust. Wing players normally get the benefit of the doubt because wings are less likely to bust than say a big. Bigs are the ones who bust the hardest.

In a worst case scenario, Wiggins will turn out to be Gerald Wallace. This kid is too talented to fall into the ranks of Gerald Green. Gerald Green can barley stay in the league and he has no off court or personality issues. He's a good kid but just isn't that talented.

Gerald Green though?

Nah seriously, Gerald Green though? Lol

Well a lot better than Green, but just comparing play style.. I haven't saw anything from him to show me he's going to have a big skill set right away..

He's hard at the rim for dunks, with some awkward floaters and shoot 3's even though his outside shot isn't great... Which is Gerald Green play style.

Not saying I think he'll end up being Gerald Green, just his style compares to that more than the highly-skilled guys who've been mentioned..

But he has all the upside you could ask for.. In a few weeks he could totally change my mind lol. I'm glad he's in college and didn't have the opportunity for the straight to NBA jump. I think he would have struggled.

Dunking hard shouldn't necessarily equate to Gerald Green or anybody for that matter though, lol.

I have no idea who his skill set is comparable to(didn't get involved in the media slobbering over him)after one game but I definitely would say it's Gerald Green, considering his BBIQ wasn't and still isn't there and outside of dunking, can't provide much else.

I'm really sorry about the Gerald Green lol. That was worst name I could of used right there. I just wanted to express how much this guy has to prove to me he is not Ben McLemore. He'll be better than Gerald Green (who came out of HS.. Really bad choice). But anytime they rank someone really high and they say he likes to coast. I get really scared of players like that. It basically spells inconsistent in the long run for me. I just believe highly rated player should never play to their competition. I think I heard it in a LeBron James video with him and CP3 talking to young players at the time (James Harden and Stephen Curry) at a camp. Because anytime you take that step down. You open the argument of is he really the best.

[ojandpizza]

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I didn't mean Green just because he dunks hard lol.. Maybe DeRozan is a better example.

Jeebs just threw out Green and I thought in terms of play style it wasn't a bad comparison... He doesn't have lots of creativity at the basket, it's usually dunk or awkward looking floater which is what I see from Green..

I don't think he'll end up being Gerald Green, I don't think Jeebs meant that either. I think we just both feel we need to see more from him skill-wise before we by into his massive amount of hype..

I hope he's is what some say he is, who doesn't want more great players in the league with so many now who are still young.

[OhioSTATE17]

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Craft didn't hand check once is the season opener......
Will watch him even closer tonight(going right after I post this)
Trade Henrich, he's making 8 mil. Craft can do comparable job at under 1/10 the price a year.

Potential is crap, look how many busts have happened due to their "potential" It doesn't matter if someone is 6'8 230 and has a 40" vertical, if he can't shoot or isn't aggressive at the rim, he won't succeed.

Will post more about potential tonight! Going to make sure Craft doesn't hand check

[ojandpizza]

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For some reason every time I hear the Wiggins being the next LeBron talk I instantly think of that scene from coach Carter..

"LeBron who? I'm the only Ty Crane" lol

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: 2014 Draft Class

Don't see the comparison at all. Craft is a good college player, won't be a good pro (at least in the NBA).



Wiggins has the potential to be a lock down defender. He doesn't have a good jumper though and disappears from games and takes plays off standing on the perimeter with his hands on his hips. Even if he "busts" he will still be a good defender in the league and someone who can be explosive on offense.

Which games did he disappear from?