2014 Draft Discussion

[ojandpizza]

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I actually think Grant Hill pre-injuries is almost overrated, in my opinion.

He and Penny seem to get God like praise, which is understandable, they were both one-of-a-kind talents with blessed physical tools and instincts.

I just think they're potential for greatness somewhat makes them overrated to a lot of folks.

If Parker gets anywhere near Hill's caliber you're looking at a perennial all-star. But again, I'm going to slow down on the predictions and let the kids play ball.

Just different opinions here. But I thought Hill was great, much better than Penny. Of course injuries hurt them both.. But I really feel that Hill as a rookie was already as complete and arguable better than a majority of stars in the league.. Obviously not everyone feels that way, but he's the one guy I really wished wouldn't have had the injuries, over Penny over T-Mac, over Oden, etc..

[ojandpizza]

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That's not a travel! Look at when he gathers the ball. Don't start counting when he stop dribbles.

But I understand you guys that don't want to jump on any kids. But I've always been all about them. (That sound completely wrong. But you know what I mean)

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Maybe. It almost looks like he makes an illegal jump stop and knew it so he cleverly tried to disguise it as a euro step

[DukeC]

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Maybe. It almost looks like he makes an illegal jump stop and knew it so he cleverly tried to disguise it as a euro step

I was surprised you didn't recognize the move considering it's a classic D-Wade move....

[ojandpizza]

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I was surprised you didn't recognize the move considering it's a classic D-Wade move....

No argument there. lol he travels or turns the ball over on nearly all his possessions anyways.. After 5 pump fakes

[cavsfan2]

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I expected Wiggns to be a little unpolished. Im not sure what the term is, but last year he was a junior then became a senior by taking more classes and having enough credits to graduate.

So really he is a senior in high school right now. Still damn impressive. I feel like this Parker or Wiggins debate is gonna go on for the next 15 years or so.

[ojandpizza]

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I expected Wiggns to be a little unpolished. Im not sure what the term is, but last year he was a junior then became a senior by taking more classes and having enough credits to graduate.

So really he is a senior in high school right now. Still damn impressive. I feel like this Parker or Wiggins debate is gonna go on for the next 15 years or so.

They're both pretty damn good already. It'll be great for the league so long as they live up to their hype.

[jeebs9]

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I expected Wiggns to be a little unpolished. Im not sure what the term is, but last year he was a junior then became a senior by taking more classes and having enough credits to graduate.

So really he is a senior in high school right now. Still damn impressive. I feel like this Parker or Wiggins debate is gonna go on for the next 15 years or so.

Reclassified.

[KG]

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I tried to copy and send that gif to someone over email and got to see it in slow-mo. He only took 2 steps. The question is if that trailing leg drags on the ground which is damn near impossible to see. I think a no-call is the right call. That's a very explosive move. He was far more athletic than what I thought.

[ojandpizza]

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I tried to copy and send that gif to someone over email and got to see it in slow-mo. He only took 2 steps. The question is if that trailing leg drags on the ground which is damn near impossible to see. I think a no-call is the right call. That's a very explosive move. He was far more athletic than what I thought.

More athletic than I had originally thought too

[jeebs9]

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Got to say I love his passing man.... Way ahead of when Carmelo was the same age.
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Harrison twin...
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[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Got to say I love his passing man.... Way ahead of when Carmelo was the same age.
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Yeah, Jabari's passing is definitely ahead of where Melo was as a freshman. I think he's behind him in terms of scoring and athleticism though.

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Taking a break from the big 3 (Wiggins, Parker, Randle), I'm really intrigued by Selden and Embiid still. Embiid is incredibly raw and desperately needs more time before he's ready for the NBA, but his athleticism/mobility for a 7 footer is really nice, and the play against Duke where they double teamed him, he dribbled away from the paint, and then hit a cutting Wiggins for a layup was really nice. Selden's passing has been awesome to watch as well.

And on a Syracuse note, I think Jerami Grant helped himself last night. He was definitely sliding a bit after the first couple games where he just didn't look like he had improved at all. He was very solid for us last night on both ends of the floor, and surprisingly hit some clutch free throws.

[ojandpizza]

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Is anybody else not that big on the twins?

[ehh]

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Yup, and that one was fairly easy to see coming IMO. They never seemed that impressive in games/mixes that I watched.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Is anybody else not that big on the twins?

Hell yes lol. I thought Kentucky's recruiting class as a whole was pretty overrated. Love Randle, but I don't see the Harrisons or Dakari being great NBA prospects IMO.

Still undecided on Young.

[turty11]

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Still undecided on Young.

i like to call him nick youngs long lost brother. i feel like hes going to be the same player