2014 Draft Discussion

[turty11]

Re: 2014 Draft Class

Mario Chalmers. 2 NBA titles as a starting PG who was taken in the 2nd round.

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[Skuxx24]

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Mario Chalmers. 2 NBA titles as a starting PG who was taken in the 2nd round.

Yeah but Chalmers is more of a role player not the main guy in Miami. Wiggins is hyped to be a franchise type player and honestly like I said can't remember the last time a perimeter player came from Kansas and ended being the franchise player except Pierce.

Danny Manning, Raef Lafrentz, Nick Collison, Thomas Robinson the Morris Twins Cole Aldrich and Now Joel Embid there seems to much more of a emphasis on the big down in Kansas maybe that why Wiggins has not being the player he was hyped to be because of the system Bill Self runs. Who knows maybe the pressure of being the "next one" has got to him.

[turty11]

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you have a pick of mclemore, hinrich, chalmers, and pierce as the only remotely decent kansas wings from the past years (since PP was in kansas)

rush and henry went to kansas but neither are any good

then you have the morris' and nick collison for bigs (t-rob too but he barely plays)

on a side note...there are only 4 really good big 12 players currently playing and 3 are from texas, there are 6 players from the big 10, 5 from the mountain west, and i stopped counting at 15 for the pac-12

[MattUM]

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Well he does fit the PG role in my team's offense perfectly.

KU hasn't really had any good players in recent memory period. I mean compared to UK, UCLA, Duke, they have nobody outside of PP.

[jeebs9]

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The book is open Ben in my opinion. Still in his rookie year.

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[ehh]

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At this point are we even crediting colleges with "developing" these one-and-dones? Sure, NBA role players that stay in school 3-4 years like Chalmers, Rush etc but guys like McLemore and Wiggins?

I'd love for UConn to take credit for Drummond but he was on campus for seven months.

[turty11]

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nah...guys arent developing in college...maybe just a slight bit but nothing really noticeable.

[Charara25]

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I think the NBA should really randomize the lottery. I mean its better that way you dont have teams tanking and knowing exactly what pick they are going to have you know make it more challenging

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[redsrule]

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nah...guys arent developing in college...maybe just a slight bit but nothing really noticeable.

BS. It's night and day for a lot of these guys. Anthony Davis is the NC game from Day 1 is a GIANT difference. Embiid has made a lot of improvements as well this year.

[turty11]

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BS. It's night and day for a lot of these guys. Anthony Davis is the NC game from Day 1 is a GIANT difference. Embiid has made a lot of improvements as well this year.

im not talking about improving what they already do, im talking about learning new things. when is the last time a 1 and done big with no post game going into college came out with one

[ex carrabba fan]

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BS. It's night and day for a lot of these guys. Anthony Davis is the NC game from Day 1 is a GIANT difference. Embiid has made a lot of improvements as well this year.

You are right in one sense, but I don't think that's the argument. The argument is whether or not staying another year will benefit prospects.

In my view, it depends on what type of prospect you are. There's no reason really that you can't "develop" in the pros with state of the art training, monitoring and diet. If you're meant to be a great player then going to the pros early makes the most sense.

If you're a prospect who isn't expected to be selected as a lottery pick then staying in school to better your draft status makes sense.

For example, what has Marcus Smart improved by staying another year? I don't think any of the knocks on him have improved that much: his shooting and decision making and turnovers. The biggest question perhaps was that he wasn't a true point guard yet not really a shooting guard either. That question is still unanswered. Luckily for him it appears his draft stock is still pretty high.

[turty11]

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i think the overstock of ball handlers at OSU hurts smart. but im not sure how you can say his shooting isn't improved..its gotten much better(atleast eye test wise, he looks comfortable shooting deep shots now)

still think he shoulda came out though, might have been the #1 pick rather than possibly 4-9 this year

[redsrule]

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Cavs had the #1 pick. No way he goes there. Magic would probably have picked him at 2 though.

[ex carrabba fan]

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i think the overstock of ball handlers at OSU hurts smart. but im not sure how you can say his shooting isn't improved..its gotten much better(atleast eye test wise, he looks comfortable shooting deep shots now)

still think he shoulda came out though, might have been the #1 pick rather than possibly 4-9 this year

You talking about his shooting mechanics? His shooting percentages are down from last year and when I watch him play I still don't think it's gotten much better. He looks more comfortable because he knows he's the man and that he can take as many shots as he wants.

[turty11]

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he just looks better/more confident taking 3's... it looks like he is forcing it alot though, but what can you expect when they are always trailing and being size dominated (atleast in games i watched)