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  • volstopfan14
    MVP
    • Jul 2010
    • 2307

    #1426
    Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

    Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
    I really like Stauskas for the Bobcats at 9. Grab him at 9 and grab a SF or C at 24 (I think Kyle Anderson would be a great change of pace guy for them if he's available there).
    Stauskas is who I'm leaning towards right now. I really like him. He'd be a great fit at the 2 beside MKG and Kemba. Then you could just take the BPA at 24.

    Anderson is a guy I'm watching too. We really need a backup PG and even though he wouldn't be conventional, he'd be a great fit as a ball handler off the bench.
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    • Yeah...THAT Guy
      Once in a Lifetime Memory
      • Dec 2006
      • 17294

      #1427
      Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

      Originally posted by volstopfan14
      Stauskas is who I'm leaning towards right now. I really like him. He'd be a great fit at the 2 beside MKG and Kemba. Then you could just take the BPA at 24.

      Anderson is a guy I'm watching too. We really need a backup PG and even though he wouldn't be conventional, he'd be a great fit as a ball handler off the bench.
      Yeah, I really think you guys need some shooting, and Stauskas can do that as well as anybody. And he's underrated in terms of athleticism and point guard skills as well. He can handle and pass the ball. I think he's an ideal backcourt mate for Kemba.

      And yeah, I think Anderson would be a great fit as well. Kemba is a super aggressive PG. Anderson could be on the floor at the same time with him and sort of control things a little bit better and set guys up, or he can simply run the second unit. If Anderson is gone by the time you guys pick again, I think you just go with whoever the best player available is; preferably somebody that could add a little more toughness to the front court, or a guy like Elfrid Payton that could spell Kemba.
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      • VDusen04
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2003
        • 13028

        #1428
        Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

        Originally posted by da ThRONe
        Teams still tank none the less. If you aren't in the running what's a 5-10 more wins?


        I would like to see the league have 5 three team divisions per conference. Winning the division is an automatic playoff berth than take the 3 next best records. Give teams something to play for deeper into the season. Along with some other things.
        Do you feel that then may open up the door for an increase in the number of playoff-worthy teams missing the cut, something many already see as an issue?

        With five divisions in a single conference, if three squads like Orlando, Philadelphia, and Milwaukee ended up in the same division, that'd mean the 23-59 Orlando Magic would be playoff bound. With five teams per division, the concern is virtually non-existent.

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        • ProfessaPackMan
          Bamma
          • Mar 2008
          • 63852

          #1429
          Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

          That would not work at all and is one of the silliest things I've read regarding that issue.
          #RespectTheCulture

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          • da ThRONe
            Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
            • Mar 2009
            • 8528

            #1430
            Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

            Originally posted by VDusen04
            Do you feel that then may open up the door for an increase in the number of playoff-worthy teams missing the cut, something many already see as an issue?

            With five divisions in a single conference, if three squads like Orlando, Philadelphia, and Milwaukee ended up in the same division, that'd mean the 23-59 Orlando Magic would be playoff bound. With five teams per division, the concern is virtually non-existent.


            Nope. My thing is if you aren't in the top 3 teams in each conference you stand almost no chance of making the Finals anyways. Might as well make the regular season more interesting.
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            • Marino
              Moderator
              • Jan 2008
              • 18113

              #1431
              Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

              Originally posted by redsrule
              I'm absolutely hating. Them *******s caused Detroit to lose their pick.
              Don't hate Cleveland, hate Joe Dumars

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              • DJ_Solis
                MVP
                • Jan 2014
                • 2216

                #1432
                Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                Originally posted by Marino
                Don't hate Cleveland, hate Joe Dumars

                Can't it be both? Lol


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                • Marino
                  Moderator
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 18113

                  #1433
                  Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                  Originally posted by DJ_Solis
                  Can't it be both? Lol


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                  This is true, and throw Ben Gordon in there too lol


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                  • TheMatrix31
                    RF
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 52918

                    #1434
                    Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                    They should figure out a way to have a single-game tournament with teams that miss the playoffs to win the #1 pick. It couldn't be that hard.

                    Worst 4 records get a "bye" or something, to give the "worst teams" an "advantage." Winner of the tournament gets the #1, runner-up gets #2, and figure out a way to go on from there. Just play for the damn thing. You want the #1 pick? You have to earn it. This will alleviate any of that "tanking" BS except for the stupid teams that would rather be in a single-elimination tournament than the actual playoffs.

                    Bring the concept of March Madness to April. Give non-playoff teams something to do. Create more games for marketing and money's sake without further diluting the playoffs. And make WINNING the determining factor in getting the pick.

                    This isn't to remedy the problem of #1 picks or Cleveland or whatever. This is a solution to remedy all the "tanking" garbage and losing games on purpose and killing off losing mentalities.
                    Last edited by TheMatrix31; 05-22-2014, 12:27 AM.

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                    • Majingir
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 47594

                      #1435
                      Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                      Originally posted by da ThRONe
                      Teams still tank none the less. If you aren't in the running what's a 5-10 more wins?


                      I would like to see the league have 5 three team divisions per conference. Winning the division is an automatic playoff berth than take the 3 next best records. Give teams something to play for deeper into the season. Along with some other things.
                      If NBA ever changed up divisions,it just needs to be realignment of divisions and nothing more. There's a number of teams out there who'd be much more suited(geographical wise(if that's a word)) in other divisions such as Wizards in Atlantic,Raptors in Central and so on. Do that,and then make schedule more balanced as well.

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                      • Rocky
                        All Star
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 6896

                        #1436
                        Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                        Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                        They should figure out a way to have a single-game tournament with teams that miss the playoffs to win the #1 pick. It couldn't be that hard.

                        Worst 4 records get a "bye" or something, to give the "worst teams" an "advantage." Winner of the tournament gets the #1, runner-up gets #2, and figure out a way to go on from there. Just play for the damn thing. You want the #1 pick? You have to earn it. This will alleviate any of that "tanking" BS except for the stupid teams that would rather be in a single-elimination tournament than the actual playoffs.

                        Bring the concept of March Madness to April. Give non-playoff teams something to do. Create more games for marketing and money's sake without further diluting the playoffs. And make WINNING the determining factor in getting the pick.

                        This isn't to remedy the problem of #1 picks or Cleveland or whatever. This is a solution to remedy all the "tanking" garbage and losing games on purpose and killing off losing mentalities.
                        I can't remember where I heard it from but I remember a coach saying it would be hard to have players play for a pick that is designed to take one of their spots. It's a decent idea...but falls apart in praticality.

                        I think the lottery is fine. Look at how much intrigue and discussion it has
                        "Maybe I can't win. But to beat me, he's going to have to kill me. And to kill me, he's gonna have to have the heart to stand in front of me. And to do that, he's got to be willing to die himself. I don't know if he's ready to do that."
                        -Rocky Balboa

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                        • LoSoisNiCEx414
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 1162

                          #1437
                          Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                          My top 3 for my Bucks would be 1.Wiggins 2.Exum 3.Embiid

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                          • kingkilla56
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 19395

                            #1438
                            Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                            They should tier lock the lottery. From 1-5, 6-10, 10-14 you have those teams that fall in those spots in the lottery only have a chance at the picks in their bracket.

                            So for example #9 Cleveland can only win a pick between 6 and 10. And the top 5 worse teams are the only ones capable of winning top 5 draft picks in the lottery.
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                            • Sportsbuck
                              The Predator
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 4326

                              #1439
                              Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                              I really like Doug McDermott, at least offensively, for what he could bring to the table for the Hornets. He can score from anywhere, has great post-game footwork, is incredibly efficient as well. Questions over whether or not he can become a passable defender loom large though.
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                              • VDusen04
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 13028

                                #1440
                                Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                                Originally posted by Rocky
                                I can't remember where I heard it from but I remember a coach saying it would be hard to have players play for a pick that is designed to take one of their spots. It's a decent idea...but falls apart in praticality.

                                I think the lottery is fine. Look at how much intrigue and discussion it has
                                Truth. Furthermore, if a team is truly terrible and in desperate need of help, the chances of them winning a lottery tournament would be greatly diminished, as they'd likely eventually run into a fringe playoff team (like the Suns) who'd have a good chance of railroading them.

                                Then, if most games go as planned, we could be looking at an inverse lottery, where all fringe playoff teams are loading up with top picks while the ones who may really need talent infusion find themselves constantly on the outside looking in because they're not good enough to win the lottery tourney.

                                Originally posted by kingkilla56
                                They should tier lock the lottery. From 1-5, 6-10, 10-14 you have those teams that fall in those spots in the lottery only have a chance at the picks in their bracket.

                                So for example #9 Cleveland can only win a pick between 6 and 10. And the top 5 worse teams are the only ones capable of winning top 5 draft picks in the lottery.
                                I believe even in this case, tanking would still exist. Only, it'd be squads looking to jump into the next tier. If you're the sixth or seventh worst team, for instance, it'd probably be in your best interest to try to fall a little further so you could jump into the #1 pick bracket.

                                My question through all of this, separate from kingkilla's idea, is how many teams do you guys feel are legitimately losing on purpose? And for how much of the season do you feel this is taking place for each team? Moreover, when a team like the Pistons battles all year and tries to win (but does a horrible and dysfunctional job of doing so), then opts to give their young bucks a run toward the end of the year with 4-5 games left (Peyton Siva), does that count as tanking?

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