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  • Yeah...THAT Guy
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    • Dec 2006
    • 17294

    #691
    Re: 2014 Draft Class

    Originally posted by jeebs9
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    • RedSceptile
      MVP
      • Jun 2011
      • 3680

      #692
      Re: 2014 Draft Class

      MCW isn't even that good so I wouldn't see it as an off base comparison. People look at what he's putting up but what about his level of efficiency? Same thing with Lillard last year. Any guy can get you 17 on 17 shots. But can he do that on a little over half those attempts? That's a different story.

      Anyways Exum is a question mark I'd have to watch morw film.

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      • Yeah...THAT Guy
        Once in a Lifetime Memory
        • Dec 2006
        • 17294

        #693
        Re: 2014 Draft Class

        Originally posted by RedSceptile
        MCW isn't even that good so I wouldn't see it as an off base comparison. People look at what he's putting up but what about his level of efficiency? Same thing with Lillard last year. Any guy can get you 17 on 17 shots. But can he do that on a little over half those attempts? That's a different story.

        Anyways Exum is a question mark I'd have to watch morw film.
        I think it's more that Exum just isn't the kind of player MCW is. MCW has amazing court vision and passing skills, while Exum has far better scoring instincts and touch around the basket. And while MCW is a great athlete, Exum will come into the NBA and have one of the best first steps in the league as a rookie IMO.
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        • ClutchCity
          Pro
          • Dec 2008
          • 630

          #694
          Re: 2014 Draft Class

          Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
          I think it's more that Exum just isn't the kind of player MCW is. MCW has amazing court vision and passing skills, while Exum has far better scoring instincts and touch around the basket. And while MCW is a great athlete, Exum will come into the NBA and have one of the best first steps in the league as a rookie IMO.
          Good stuff. I totally forgot MCW is a great passer and the fact that Exum isn't really a pass first PG is another reason the comparison between these two just can't be made.

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          • Melbournelad
            MVP
            • Oct 2012
            • 1559

            #695
            Re: 2014 Draft Class

            Originally posted by lolersaurus
            Fun fact about myself, I went to the same high school as Dante Exum (I still go to this school while he moved to Canberra and to the AIS) radical feeling knowing a future nba player went to the same high school as me, even got the chance to play against him during lunchtimes xD


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            Was this in Melbourne? If so what suburb?

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            • lolersaurus
              Pro
              • May 2012
              • 673

              #696
              Re: 2014 Draft Class

              Originally posted by Melbournelad
              Was this in Melbourne? If so what suburb?
              Hoppers Crossing! I see you're from Melbourne too!
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              • MattUM
                MVP
                • Aug 2013
                • 1051

                #697
                Re: 2014 Draft Class

                Joel Embiid strongly considering staying another year at KU. "Doesn't feel ready for the NBA...loves college basketball and his family doesn't need the money."

                Kansas 7-footer Joel Embiid told ESPN that he is far from a lock to leave college after this season, and is "strongly considering" returning for his sophomore campaign.
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                • jeebs9
                  Fear is the Unknown
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 47568

                  #698
                  Re: 2014 Draft Class

                  Another year in college won't hurt anyone.

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                  • MattUM
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 1051

                    #699
                    Re: 2014 Draft Class

                    I think it would be a great decision. Staying an extra year would really help him improve and get ready for the NBA since he's so new to basketball. He would get closer to reaching his massive potential by staying. He doesn't need the money so why not? KU is also getting the #1 PF in the class of 2014 next year to play next to him.
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                    • ex carrabba fan
                      I'll thank him for you
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 32744

                      #700
                      Re: 2014 Draft Class

                      I just don't see why he couldn't improve on the next level and I don't see how it would benefit him to stay rather than go. I could easily see him being brought along similar to Andrew Bynum.

                      I don't see how it's a benefit to stay in college rather than get drafted. There's no reason he could not improve his skill set with pro coaches, training 24/7, dieting 24/7, weights 24/7, practicing with the best players in the world, soaking up knowledge from teammates/coaches...

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                      • Dice
                        Sitting by the door
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 6627

                        #701
                        Re: 2014 Draft Class

                        Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                        I just don't see why he couldn't improve on the next level and I don't see how it would benefit him to stay rather than go. I could easily see him being brought along similar to Andrew Bynum.

                        I don't see how it's a benefit to stay in college rather than get drafted. There's no reason he could not improve his skill set with pro coaches, training 24/7, dieting 24/7, weights 24/7, practicing with the best players in the world, soaking up knowledge from teammates/coaches...
                        I think the mental aspect would improve much better in college than in the pros. I hear what your saying but it's a delicate situation when your trying to train a young kid the aspects of the game. You want to give him the low down of how faster and stronger the pro game is but at the same time you don't want to shoot down his confidence. Which can easily be shattered on the NBA level.

                        In college, he doesn't have to worry about that. He'll be better next year and going into next season he will be without question the best college player and talent.

                        Next to injury, lack of confidence is probably one of the biggest reasons why highly touted players bust in the pros. If he feels he's not ready, then I'd take his word for it.
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                        • ex carrabba fan
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                          • Oct 2004
                          • 32744

                          #702
                          Re: 2014 Draft Class

                          That's true, but if your confidence gets shattered that easily then you were never cut out to be a pro to begin with. That means you're mentally weak.

                          Again, you could easily quell expectations by bringing him around slowly. Limit his minutes and make it known from day 1 that he will not be starting or playing big minutes. People would understand. Give him the Andrew Bynum treatment even if the team is a bottom feeder.

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                          • redsrule
                            All Star
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 9396

                            #703
                            Re: 2014 Draft Class

                            Without question best college player next year? I wouldn't go that far. Embiid has been great, but he isn't getting drafted because of his numbers right now, because he isn't dominant for the most part. It's all about what he could become.
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                            • 702
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 1165

                              #704
                              Re: 2014 Draft Class

                              Originally posted by jeebs9
                              Another year in college won't hurt anyone.

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                              Until they tear their knee. Don't see why anyone who is a top 5 pick would ever return. Maybe his family doesn't need the money, but I don't see how you turn down a guaranteed 10 mil+ contract unless your last name is Rockefeller.

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                              • KG
                                Welcome Back
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 17583

                                #705
                                Re: 2014 Draft Class

                                Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                                I just don't see why he couldn't improve on the next level and I don't see how it would benefit him to stay rather than go. I could easily see him being brought along similar to Andrew Bynum.

                                I don't see how it's a benefit to stay in college rather than get drafted. There's no reason he could not improve his skill set with pro coaches, training 24/7, dieting 24/7, weights 24/7, practicing with the best players in the world, soaking up knowledge from teammates/coaches...
                                IMO, the kind of teaching and 1-on-1 attention you get at the next level outweighs playing another year of college ball. If you're outside of the lottery and want to go back and improve your stock, OK I get it. When you're a top 3 pick, going back to school is very risky.
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