NBA Rule Change Rumor

[metalslug]

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timid said:
Damn what everybody else has to say.

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You say that but when an 18 year old has has everyone telling him he can go straight to the pros what do you think he's going to do, say damn them and go play for free or listen to them and get paid to play?

[SoMiss2000]

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timid said:
Well, everybody's not the same. Some 18 year olds are more mature than others. Be your own man and make your own choices. Damn what everybody else has to say.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">how old are you?

of course there is always and exception to every rule. For the most part, the majority of 18 year olds are not mature enough to make adult decisions. It cracks me up to hear 18 years olds talking about they're grown yet they still live at home or still depend on their parents.

[SoMiss2000]

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timid said:
Well, everybody's not the same. Some 18 year olds are more mature than others. Be your own man and make your own choices. Damn what everybody else has to say.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">how old are you?

of course there is always and exception to every rule. For the most part, the majority of 18 year olds are not mature enough to make adult decisions. It cracks me up to hear 18 years olds talking about they're grown yet they still live at home or still depend on their parents.

[SoMiss2000]

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</font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
timid said:
Well, everybody's not the same. Some 18 year olds are more mature than others. Be your own man and make your own choices. Damn what everybody else has to say.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">how old are you?

of course there is always and exception to every rule. For the most part, the majority of 18 year olds are not mature enough to make adult decisions. It cracks me up to hear 18 years olds talking about they're grown yet they still live at home or still depend on their parents.

[timid]

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Im 24 years old and I still stand my statement. U cant hold their hand for them. Let them make their own choice. If they're not independent enough to not listen to what everyone is putting in their ear then tough.

[timid]

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Im 24 years old and I still stand my statement. U cant hold their hand for them. Let them make their own choice. If they're not independent enough to not listen to what everyone is putting in their ear then tough.

[timid]

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Im 24 years old and I still stand my statement. U cant hold their hand for them. Let them make their own choice. If they're not independent enough to not listen to what everyone is putting in their ear then tough.

[utexas]

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This a very intriguing discussion, I have thought this out a bunch of times. I am a Youth Pastor, so I deal with the stereo-typical 18 athelete (for example: Chris Bosh attended my bible study group for 3 years). Now with all that being said I am very much against this possible rule.

1. What is it trying to accomplish? Is it trying to make the product better? If that is true, you take the best players, period. If an 18 year old can compete on the highest level, they should compete. Example: Michael Dell of Dell computers left UT after 1 year of school. In the business world, if you can do the job, you can do it.

2. Going to college doesn't always mean you will be a better player. There are 4 year busts, just like there are no college busts.

3. David stern nor the NCAA care about these kids. That is very obvious to anyone who played collegiate sports or know somebody personally who has.
a)coaches change jobs, but if players switch schools they have to sit out
b) the ncaa makes so much money off the sweat of these athletes. UT still sells Ricky Williams jerseys that he can't get a cut of the profits. If he gets hurt while playing collegiate sports, then oh well I hope he has a back up plan. There is a huge risk involved in playing collegiate sports if you are a legitimate prospect for professional sports.
c)Some of these kids really need to earn legal money to provide for their families. The NCAA and the NBA/NFL know this. When a coach goes into the hood to get the best player that he can get, he understands the economic reality that these kids have to live with. Not all of the early entry candidates come from low income areas, but a good majority do. You can't have a job that pays you over a certain amount and still play sports at college. I know this is to protect against boosters paying the players, but it hurts the second and third string athletes more.

d)most people don't know that the scholarships that these players receive are a series of one year agreements. It is not a guarantee that these players get all of their education paid for. coaces and AD's know how to word a release of a player so the ncaa doesn't investigate.

3. nobody forces these teams to draft younger players. How is the young players fault if the quality of basketball has declined? I bet if you name the top 10 players right now, most of them either skipped college, or stayed less than three years. The NBA is being very hypocritical about this. Kobe, McGrady, Melo,Amare,Lebron,Shaq,Garnett,AI,Dirk,Jermaine O'Neal,Gasol etc. are the backbone of the league. Don't forget Magic and Jordan both came out after 2 years. On the job training betas classroom traing everyday. So actual professional training beats college ball training. Remember MJ, who had probably the coach in the history of college ball and he didn't develop a jumpshot until he got to the league.

This nothing more than the NBA/NFL worried that their free farm system, the NCAA will be rendered useless to them. In my opinion the NCAA s a joke. collegiate athletics is all about money, not what is best for the young people.

[utexas]

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This a very intriguing discussion, I have thought this out a bunch of times. I am a Youth Pastor, so I deal with the stereo-typical 18 athelete (for example: Chris Bosh attended my bible study group for 3 years). Now with all that being said I am very much against this possible rule.

1. What is it trying to accomplish? Is it trying to make the product better? If that is true, you take the best players, period. If an 18 year old can compete on the highest level, they should compete. Example: Michael Dell of Dell computers left UT after 1 year of school. In the business world, if you can do the job, you can do it.

2. Going to college doesn't always mean you will be a better player. There are 4 year busts, just like there are no college busts.

3. David stern nor the NCAA care about these kids. That is very obvious to anyone who played collegiate sports or know somebody personally who has.
a)coaches change jobs, but if players switch schools they have to sit out
b) the ncaa makes so much money off the sweat of these athletes. UT still sells Ricky Williams jerseys that he can't get a cut of the profits. If he gets hurt while playing collegiate sports, then oh well I hope he has a back up plan. There is a huge risk involved in playing collegiate sports if you are a legitimate prospect for professional sports.
c)Some of these kids really need to earn legal money to provide for their families. The NCAA and the NBA/NFL know this. When a coach goes into the hood to get the best player that he can get, he understands the economic reality that these kids have to live with. Not all of the early entry candidates come from low income areas, but a good majority do. You can't have a job that pays you over a certain amount and still play sports at college. I know this is to protect against boosters paying the players, but it hurts the second and third string athletes more.

d)most people don't know that the scholarships that these players receive are a series of one year agreements. It is not a guarantee that these players get all of their education paid for. coaces and AD's know how to word a release of a player so the ncaa doesn't investigate.

3. nobody forces these teams to draft younger players. How is the young players fault if the quality of basketball has declined? I bet if you name the top 10 players right now, most of them either skipped college, or stayed less than three years. The NBA is being very hypocritical about this. Kobe, McGrady, Melo,Amare,Lebron,Shaq,Garnett,AI,Dirk,Jermaine O'Neal,Gasol etc. are the backbone of the league. Don't forget Magic and Jordan both came out after 2 years. On the job training betas classroom traing everyday. So actual professional training beats college ball training. Remember MJ, who had probably the coach in the history of college ball and he didn't develop a jumpshot until he got to the league.

This nothing more than the NBA/NFL worried that their free farm system, the NCAA will be rendered useless to them. In my opinion the NCAA s a joke. collegiate athletics is all about money, not what is best for the young people.

[utexas]

Re: NBA Rule Change Rumor

This a very intriguing discussion, I have thought this out a bunch of times. I am a Youth Pastor, so I deal with the stereo-typical 18 athelete (for example: Chris Bosh attended my bible study group for 3 years). Now with all that being said I am very much against this possible rule.

1. What is it trying to accomplish? Is it trying to make the product better? If that is true, you take the best players, period. If an 18 year old can compete on the highest level, they should compete. Example: Michael Dell of Dell computers left UT after 1 year of school. In the business world, if you can do the job, you can do it.

2. Going to college doesn't always mean you will be a better player. There are 4 year busts, just like there are no college busts.

3. David stern nor the NCAA care about these kids. That is very obvious to anyone who played collegiate sports or know somebody personally who has.
a)coaches change jobs, but if players switch schools they have to sit out
b) the ncaa makes so much money off the sweat of these athletes. UT still sells Ricky Williams jerseys that he can't get a cut of the profits. If he gets hurt while playing collegiate sports, then oh well I hope he has a back up plan. There is a huge risk involved in playing collegiate sports if you are a legitimate prospect for professional sports.
c)Some of these kids really need to earn legal money to provide for their families. The NCAA and the NBA/NFL know this. When a coach goes into the hood to get the best player that he can get, he understands the economic reality that these kids have to live with. Not all of the early entry candidates come from low income areas, but a good majority do. You can't have a job that pays you over a certain amount and still play sports at college. I know this is to protect against boosters paying the players, but it hurts the second and third string athletes more.

d)most people don't know that the scholarships that these players receive are a series of one year agreements. It is not a guarantee that these players get all of their education paid for. coaces and AD's know how to word a release of a player so the ncaa doesn't investigate.

3. nobody forces these teams to draft younger players. How is the young players fault if the quality of basketball has declined? I bet if you name the top 10 players right now, most of them either skipped college, or stayed less than three years. The NBA is being very hypocritical about this. Kobe, McGrady, Melo,Amare,Lebron,Shaq,Garnett,AI,Dirk,Jermaine O'Neal,Gasol etc. are the backbone of the league. Don't forget Magic and Jordan both came out after 2 years. On the job training betas classroom traing everyday. So actual professional training beats college ball training. Remember MJ, who had probably the coach in the history of college ball and he didn't develop a jumpshot until he got to the league.

This nothing more than the NBA/NFL worried that their free farm system, the NCAA will be rendered useless to them. In my opinion the NCAA s a joke. collegiate athletics is all about money, not what is best for the young people.