Bron Bron is the ROY

**jmood88** · 04-17-2004, 10:41 PM

Re: LBJ is ROY

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DueceDiggla said:
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They don't only have one guy and if they do then that is one team. What team has been able to win and win consistantly with only one guy? You need role players on every team.

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What about Boozer, McInnis, Eric Williams, Ziggy and Battie?

Boozer and Ziggy are more then enough to help out Lebron.

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Obviously they weren't enough to get them to the playoffs. The nuggets have a deeper and overall better team than the cavs.

**Tha_Kid** · 04-17-2004, 10:41 PM

Re: LBJ is ROY

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jmood88 said:
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BigMike said:
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dieselboy said:
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jmood88 said:

Boozer is doing good but mciniss was out when they needed him the most. The cavs are worst than the nuggets. The nuggets have a better team and that's why they went to the playoffs. No team can win with only one guy.

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Some teams can win with only one guy. And the Cav's have a few solid players. Boozer and Z are great, especially in the East.

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One needs only to look at the Celtics to prove Jmood's statement wrong.

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They don't only have one guy and if they do then that is one team. What team has been able to win and win consistantly with only one guy? You need role players on every team.

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So you are saying that Carmelo is one person and one person cant make a team win. Doesnt that then apply to Lebron? I mean, you have to give better reasons to say the Cavs are much worse than the nuggets. Everyone (almost) agrees that if the current roster was together at the beginning, they would probably have made the POs. Also, the Cavs were in the six spot at one point and missed the postseason only because they became unraveled, lost McGinnis and 12 of 13. That is chalked up to mental toughness and intensity, not the level of talent on their roster.

**Tha_Kid** · 04-17-2004, 10:41 PM

Re: LBJ is ROY

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jmood88 said:
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BigMike said:
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dieselboy said:
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jmood88 said:

Boozer is doing good but mciniss was out when they needed him the most. The cavs are worst than the nuggets. The nuggets have a better team and that's why they went to the playoffs. No team can win with only one guy.

<hr /></blockquote>

Some teams can win with only one guy. And the Cav's have a few solid players. Boozer and Z are great, especially in the East.

<hr /></blockquote>

One needs only to look at the Celtics to prove Jmood's statement wrong.

<hr /></blockquote>

They don't only have one guy and if they do then that is one team. What team has been able to win and win consistantly with only one guy? You need role players on every team.

<hr /></blockquote>

So you are saying that Carmelo is one person and one person cant make a team win. Doesnt that then apply to Lebron? I mean, you have to give better reasons to say the Cavs are much worse than the nuggets. Everyone (almost) agrees that if the current roster was together at the beginning, they would probably have made the POs. Also, the Cavs were in the six spot at one point and missed the postseason only because they became unraveled, lost McGinnis and 12 of 13. That is chalked up to mental toughness and intensity, not the level of talent on their roster.

**Tha_Kid** · 04-17-2004, 10:41 PM

Re: LBJ is ROY

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jmood88 said:
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BigMike said:
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dieselboy said:
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jmood88 said:

Boozer is doing good but mciniss was out when they needed him the most. The cavs are worst than the nuggets. The nuggets have a better team and that's why they went to the playoffs. No team can win with only one guy.

<hr /></blockquote>

Some teams can win with only one guy. And the Cav's have a few solid players. Boozer and Z are great, especially in the East.

<hr /></blockquote>

One needs only to look at the Celtics to prove Jmood's statement wrong.

<hr /></blockquote>

They don't only have one guy and if they do then that is one team. What team has been able to win and win consistantly with only one guy? You need role players on every team.

<hr /></blockquote>

So you are saying that Carmelo is one person and one person cant make a team win. Doesnt that then apply to Lebron? I mean, you have to give better reasons to say the Cavs are much worse than the nuggets. Everyone (almost) agrees that if the current roster was together at the beginning, they would probably have made the POs. Also, the Cavs were in the six spot at one point and missed the postseason only because they became unraveled, lost McGinnis and 12 of 13. That is chalked up to mental toughness and intensity, not the level of talent on their roster.

**dieselboy** · 04-17-2004, 10:46 PM

Re: LBJ is ROY

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jmood88 said:
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BigMike said:
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dieselboy said:
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jmood88 said:

Boozer is doing good but mciniss was out when they needed him the most. The cavs are worst than the nuggets. The nuggets have a better team and that's why they went to the playoffs. No team can win with only one guy.

<hr /></blockquote>

Some teams can win with only one guy. And the Cav's have a few solid players. Boozer and Z are great, especially in the East.

<hr /></blockquote>

One needs only to look at the Celtics to prove Jmood's statement wrong.

<hr /></blockquote>

They don't only have one guy and if they do then that is one team. What team has been able to win and win consistantly with only one guy? You need role players on every team.

<hr /></blockquote>

Now your dropping your statement to teams need "role" players?

The Jazz won without any real superstars, maybe AK-47. You could make the argument that Tim Duncan does a lot on his own. I mean, Tony Parker is a good player, but his 15-5 would probably be a lot less if the double teams weren't always on TD, and he didn't have an MVP to pass to. Paul Pierce is really all the Celts have. Davis is ok, and Blount is solid, but nothing too special.

I'm getting off topic. LBJ is the most deserving, no suprise here.

**dieselboy** · 04-17-2004, 10:46 PM

Re: LBJ is ROY

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jmood88 said:
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BigMike said:
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dieselboy said:
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jmood88 said:

Boozer is doing good but mciniss was out when they needed him the most. The cavs are worst than the nuggets. The nuggets have a better team and that's why they went to the playoffs. No team can win with only one guy.

<hr /></blockquote>

Some teams can win with only one guy. And the Cav's have a few solid players. Boozer and Z are great, especially in the East.

<hr /></blockquote>

One needs only to look at the Celtics to prove Jmood's statement wrong.

<hr /></blockquote>

They don't only have one guy and if they do then that is one team. What team has been able to win and win consistantly with only one guy? You need role players on every team.

<hr /></blockquote>

Now your dropping your statement to teams need "role" players?

The Jazz won without any real superstars, maybe AK-47. You could make the argument that Tim Duncan does a lot on his own. I mean, Tony Parker is a good player, but his 15-5 would probably be a lot less if the double teams weren't always on TD, and he didn't have an MVP to pass to. Paul Pierce is really all the Celts have. Davis is ok, and Blount is solid, but nothing too special.

I'm getting off topic. LBJ is the most deserving, no suprise here.

**dieselboy** · 04-17-2004, 10:46 PM

Re: LBJ is ROY

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jmood88 said:
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BigMike said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
dieselboy said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
jmood88 said:

Boozer is doing good but mciniss was out when they needed him the most. The cavs are worst than the nuggets. The nuggets have a better team and that's why they went to the playoffs. No team can win with only one guy.

<hr /></blockquote>

Some teams can win with only one guy. And the Cav's have a few solid players. Boozer and Z are great, especially in the East.

<hr /></blockquote>

One needs only to look at the Celtics to prove Jmood's statement wrong.

<hr /></blockquote>

They don't only have one guy and if they do then that is one team. What team has been able to win and win consistantly with only one guy? You need role players on every team.

<hr /></blockquote>

Now your dropping your statement to teams need "role" players?

The Jazz won without any real superstars, maybe AK-47. You could make the argument that Tim Duncan does a lot on his own. I mean, Tony Parker is a good player, but his 15-5 would probably be a lot less if the double teams weren't always on TD, and he didn't have an MVP to pass to. Paul Pierce is really all the Celts have. Davis is ok, and Blount is solid, but nothing too special.

I'm getting off topic. LBJ is the most deserving, no suprise here.

**Tha_Kid** · 04-17-2004, 10:47 PM

Re: LBJ is ROY

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jmood88 said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
DueceDiggla said:
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jmood88 said:
They don't only have one guy and if they do then that is one team. What team has been able to win and win consistantly with only one guy? You need role players on every team.

<hr /></blockquote>

What about Boozer, McInnis, Eric Williams, Ziggy and Battie?

Boozer and Ziggy are more then enough to help out Lebron.

<hr /></blockquote>

Obviously they weren't enough to get them to the playoffs. The nuggets have a deeper and overall better team than the cavs.

<hr /></blockquote>

riiight. never mind that williams and battie werent there at season's start and the Cavs missed it by ONE game

before I stop replying to this topic (as the award situation is done) answer this for me: Do you think that if the Cavs had the roster they have right now at the beginning of the season, they would still have missed the Playoffs?

**Tha_Kid** · 04-17-2004, 10:47 PM

Re: LBJ is ROY

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
jmood88 said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
DueceDiggla said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
jmood88 said:
They don't only have one guy and if they do then that is one team. What team has been able to win and win consistantly with only one guy? You need role players on every team.

<hr /></blockquote>

What about Boozer, McInnis, Eric Williams, Ziggy and Battie?

Boozer and Ziggy are more then enough to help out Lebron.

<hr /></blockquote>

Obviously they weren't enough to get them to the playoffs. The nuggets have a deeper and overall better team than the cavs.

<hr /></blockquote>

riiight. never mind that williams and battie werent there at season's start and the Cavs missed it by ONE game

before I stop replying to this topic (as the award situation is done) answer this for me: Do you think that if the Cavs had the roster they have right now at the beginning of the season, they would still have missed the Playoffs?

**Tha_Kid** · 04-17-2004, 10:47 PM

Re: LBJ is ROY

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
jmood88 said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
DueceDiggla said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
jmood88 said:
They don't only have one guy and if they do then that is one team. What team has been able to win and win consistantly with only one guy? You need role players on every team.

<hr /></blockquote>

What about Boozer, McInnis, Eric Williams, Ziggy and Battie?

Boozer and Ziggy are more then enough to help out Lebron.

<hr /></blockquote>

Obviously they weren't enough to get them to the playoffs. The nuggets have a deeper and overall better team than the cavs.

<hr /></blockquote>

riiight. never mind that williams and battie werent there at season's start and the Cavs missed it by ONE game

before I stop replying to this topic (as the award situation is done) answer this for me: Do you think that if the Cavs had the roster they have right now at the beginning of the season, they would still have missed the Playoffs?

**bjf1377** · 04-17-2004, 10:48 PM

Re: LBJ is ROY

Ya know, this whole ROY thing will be a moot point when they both start winning MVP's and championships.

**bjf1377** · 04-17-2004, 10:48 PM

Re: LBJ is ROY

Ya know, this whole ROY thing will be a moot point when they both start winning MVP's and championships.

**bjf1377** · 04-17-2004, 10:48 PM

Re: LBJ is ROY

Ya know, this whole ROY thing will be a moot point when they both start winning MVP's and championships.

**jmood88** · 04-17-2004, 10:48 PM

Re: LBJ is ROY

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dieselboy said:
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jmood88 said:
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BigMike said:
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dieselboy said:
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jmood88 said:

Boozer is doing good but mciniss was out when they needed him the most. The cavs are worst than the nuggets. The nuggets have a better team and that's why they went to the playoffs. No team can win with only one guy.

<hr /></blockquote>

Some teams can win with only one guy. And the Cav's have a few solid players. Boozer and Z are great, especially in the East.

<hr /></blockquote>

One needs only to look at the Celtics to prove Jmood's statement wrong.

<hr /></blockquote>

They don't only have one guy and if they do then that is one team. What team has been able to win and win consistantly with only one guy? You need role players on every team.

<hr /></blockquote>

Now your dropping your statement to teams need "role" players?

The Jazz won without any real superstars, maybe AK-47. You could make the argument that Tim Duncan does a lot on his own. I mean, Tony Parker is a good player, but his 15-5 would probably be a lot less if the double teams weren't always on TD, and he didn't have an MVP to pass to. Paul Pierce is really all the Celts have. Davis is ok, and Blount is solid, but nothing too special.

I'm getting off topic. LBJ is the most deserving, no suprise here.

<hr /></blockquote>

I'm not dropping my statement to anything. A team needs good players to win, which the cavs do have buy they don't have enough good players. And my point was that lebron is the most deserving because he brought a much worse team to having a shot at the playoffs.

**jmood88** · 04-17-2004, 10:48 PM

Re: LBJ is ROY

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dieselboy said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
jmood88 said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
BigMike said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
dieselboy said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
jmood88 said:

Boozer is doing good but mciniss was out when they needed him the most. The cavs are worst than the nuggets. The nuggets have a better team and that's why they went to the playoffs. No team can win with only one guy.

<hr /></blockquote>

Some teams can win with only one guy. And the Cav's have a few solid players. Boozer and Z are great, especially in the East.

<hr /></blockquote>

One needs only to look at the Celtics to prove Jmood's statement wrong.

<hr /></blockquote>

They don't only have one guy and if they do then that is one team. What team has been able to win and win consistantly with only one guy? You need role players on every team.

<hr /></blockquote>

Now your dropping your statement to teams need "role" players?

The Jazz won without any real superstars, maybe AK-47. You could make the argument that Tim Duncan does a lot on his own. I mean, Tony Parker is a good player, but his 15-5 would probably be a lot less if the double teams weren't always on TD, and he didn't have an MVP to pass to. Paul Pierce is really all the Celts have. Davis is ok, and Blount is solid, but nothing too special.

I'm getting off topic. LBJ is the most deserving, no suprise here.

<hr /></blockquote>

I'm not dropping my statement to anything. A team needs good players to win, which the cavs do have buy they don't have enough good players. And my point was that lebron is the most deserving because he brought a much worse team to having a shot at the playoffs.

Bron Bron is the ROY

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