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  • Sarah
    MVP
    • May 2003
    • 2609

    #136
    Re: Kobe or MJ?

    Can I be a secondary smoker of what they are smoking? I don't smoke though but I won't mind being a secondary smoker just for a moment.

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    • hotadef
      Rookie
      • May 2004
      • 280

      #137
      Re: Kobe or MJ?

      for one i am a chicago fan and jordan fan. And i dont smoke anything so watch ya mouth. But as i watch the bulls through the years. It seems for a team sport like basketball. My team the bulls has been turned to the chicago jordan not the chicago bulls. Jordan was great. that is true. But no one can put all of the bulls success on him. You say when he left the bulls stop winning yes they stop winning champioships not games they made it to the playoffs. and duplicated the record they had when he was there.

      Yeah they didnt win it all. but damn they didnt replace him with an allstar caliber player either. They didnt replace him with a top 50 caliber player did they.

      Everybody wants to give jordan all the credit but he would not i repeat would not could not take that same bulls team anyfurther than pippen did with out pippen and pippen wasnt as good as jordan. He didnt do it for the wizards and even in early day couldnt do with out pippen and couldnt do it in his prime with out pippen.

      And dont forget his jump shooters the bulls done had two of the best 3 point shooter. kerr and hodges. Paxon and bj were good jumpshooter two. Why are the lacker loosing because there other players cant hit a jump shot.

      Dont take from the bulls team and 72 wins yeah jordan was back but they added the best rebounder in the game to that team also who was one of the best defence of player. He was jordan equal at what he does scorer jordan there was none better at that time rebounding rodman none better at that time. equally at playing d and rodman handled shaq with out double teams. so jordan made him better. that was a team effort Jordan was the greatest player at that time. but please dont over hype him he had a team that was put together very well. All the people fit together like a quilt. you can draw all the double teams you want but when you kick it out it up to that player to knock down the shot and the rest of the bulls were very good at that.

      So what ever the hell you people are smoking that makes jordan bigger than his team. bigger than than the other 2 50 best players rodman and pippen are in that leauge. that made all the d and that the others players played that less important. I guess jordan can guard his man and the other 4 players at the same time. he may be able to score on 3 or 4 at the same but not guard them. And i guess he gave his self assist and kicked it back to his self when the d collapsed on him. He was the best one on one scorer but he didnt carry his team no more than the triangle asked for.

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      • hotadef
        Rookie
        • May 2004
        • 280

        #138
        Re: Kobe or MJ?

        for one i am a chicago fan and jordan fan. And i dont smoke anything so watch ya mouth. But as i watch the bulls through the years. It seems for a team sport like basketball. My team the bulls has been turned to the chicago jordan not the chicago bulls. Jordan was great. that is true. But no one can put all of the bulls success on him. You say when he left the bulls stop winning yes they stop winning champioships not games they made it to the playoffs. and duplicated the record they had when he was there.

        Yeah they didnt win it all. but damn they didnt replace him with an allstar caliber player either. They didnt replace him with a top 50 caliber player did they.

        Everybody wants to give jordan all the credit but he would not i repeat would not could not take that same bulls team anyfurther than pippen did with out pippen and pippen wasnt as good as jordan. He didnt do it for the wizards and even in early day couldnt do with out pippen and couldnt do it in his prime with out pippen.

        And dont forget his jump shooters the bulls done had two of the best 3 point shooter. kerr and hodges. Paxon and bj were good jumpshooter two. Why are the lacker loosing because there other players cant hit a jump shot.

        Dont take from the bulls team and 72 wins yeah jordan was back but they added the best rebounder in the game to that team also who was one of the best defence of player. He was jordan equal at what he does scorer jordan there was none better at that time rebounding rodman none better at that time. equally at playing d and rodman handled shaq with out double teams. so jordan made him better. that was a team effort Jordan was the greatest player at that time. but please dont over hype him he had a team that was put together very well. All the people fit together like a quilt. you can draw all the double teams you want but when you kick it out it up to that player to knock down the shot and the rest of the bulls were very good at that.

        So what ever the hell you people are smoking that makes jordan bigger than his team. bigger than than the other 2 50 best players rodman and pippen are in that leauge. that made all the d and that the others players played that less important. I guess jordan can guard his man and the other 4 players at the same time. he may be able to score on 3 or 4 at the same but not guard them. And i guess he gave his self assist and kicked it back to his self when the d collapsed on him. He was the best one on one scorer but he didnt carry his team no more than the triangle asked for.

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        • hotadef
          Rookie
          • May 2004
          • 280

          #139
          Re: Kobe or MJ?

          for one i am a chicago fan and jordan fan. And i dont smoke anything so watch ya mouth. But as i watch the bulls through the years. It seems for a team sport like basketball. My team the bulls has been turned to the chicago jordan not the chicago bulls. Jordan was great. that is true. But no one can put all of the bulls success on him. You say when he left the bulls stop winning yes they stop winning champioships not games they made it to the playoffs. and duplicated the record they had when he was there.

          Yeah they didnt win it all. but damn they didnt replace him with an allstar caliber player either. They didnt replace him with a top 50 caliber player did they.

          Everybody wants to give jordan all the credit but he would not i repeat would not could not take that same bulls team anyfurther than pippen did with out pippen and pippen wasnt as good as jordan. He didnt do it for the wizards and even in early day couldnt do with out pippen and couldnt do it in his prime with out pippen.

          And dont forget his jump shooters the bulls done had two of the best 3 point shooter. kerr and hodges. Paxon and bj were good jumpshooter two. Why are the lacker loosing because there other players cant hit a jump shot.

          Dont take from the bulls team and 72 wins yeah jordan was back but they added the best rebounder in the game to that team also who was one of the best defence of player. He was jordan equal at what he does scorer jordan there was none better at that time rebounding rodman none better at that time. equally at playing d and rodman handled shaq with out double teams. so jordan made him better. that was a team effort Jordan was the greatest player at that time. but please dont over hype him he had a team that was put together very well. All the people fit together like a quilt. you can draw all the double teams you want but when you kick it out it up to that player to knock down the shot and the rest of the bulls were very good at that.

          So what ever the hell you people are smoking that makes jordan bigger than his team. bigger than than the other 2 50 best players rodman and pippen are in that leauge. that made all the d and that the others players played that less important. I guess jordan can guard his man and the other 4 players at the same time. he may be able to score on 3 or 4 at the same but not guard them. And i guess he gave his self assist and kicked it back to his self when the d collapsed on him. He was the best one on one scorer but he didnt carry his team no more than the triangle asked for.

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          • Leon
            An Old Trafford
            • Mar 2003
            • 4981

            #140
            Re: Kobe or MJ?

            Jordan did carry his team, Phil coaxed him to practice another philosophy, the triangle. That allowed them to win 6 trophies, but, don't forget that Jordan usually bailed them out when they couldn't get anything with the triangle.

            I'm not undermining his teammates though, especially Pip. Without them, they wouldn't have won those championships.
            "It's not how big you are; it's how big you play" - David Thompson

            @nicroni

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            • Leon
              An Old Trafford
              • Mar 2003
              • 4981

              #141
              Re: Kobe or MJ?

              Jordan did carry his team, Phil coaxed him to practice another philosophy, the triangle. That allowed them to win 6 trophies, but, don't forget that Jordan usually bailed them out when they couldn't get anything with the triangle.

              I'm not undermining his teammates though, especially Pip. Without them, they wouldn't have won those championships.
              "It's not how big you are; it's how big you play" - David Thompson

              @nicroni

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              • Leon
                An Old Trafford
                • Mar 2003
                • 4981

                #142
                Re: Kobe or MJ?

                Jordan did carry his team, Phil coaxed him to practice another philosophy, the triangle. That allowed them to win 6 trophies, but, don't forget that Jordan usually bailed them out when they couldn't get anything with the triangle.

                I'm not undermining his teammates though, especially Pip. Without them, they wouldn't have won those championships.
                "It's not how big you are; it's how big you play" - David Thompson

                @nicroni

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                • marq
                  Pro
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 549

                  #143
                  Re: Kobe or MJ?

                  "for one i am a chicago fan and jordan fan. And i dont smoke anything so watch ya mouth. But as i watch the bulls through the years. It seems for a team sport like basketball. My team the bulls has been turned to the chicago jordan not the chicago bulls. Jordan was great. that is true. But no one can put all of the bulls success on him. You say when he left the bulls stop winning yes they stop winning champioships not games they made it to the playoffs. and duplicated the record they had when he was there.

                  Yeah they didnt win it all. but damn they didnt replace him with an allstar caliber player either. They didnt replace him with a top 50 caliber player did they.

                  Everybody wants to give jordan all the credit but he would not i repeat would not could not take that same bulls team anyfurther than pippen did with out pippen and pippen wasnt as good as jordan. He didnt do it for the wizards and even in early day couldnt do with out pippen and couldnt do it in his prime with out pippen.

                  And dont forget his jump shooters the bulls done had two of the best 3 point shooter. kerr and hodges. Paxon and bj were good jumpshooter two. Why are the lacker loosing because there other players cant hit a jump shot.

                  Dont take from the bulls team and 72 wins yeah jordan was back but they added the best rebounder in the game to that team also who was one of the best defence of player. He was jordan equal at what he does scorer jordan there was none better at that time rebounding rodman none better at that time. equally at playing d and rodman handled shaq with out double teams. so jordan made him better. that was a team effort Jordan was the greatest player at that time. but please dont over hype him he had a team that was put together very well. All the people fit together like a quilt. you can draw all the double teams you want but when you kick it out it up to that player to knock down the shot and the rest of the bulls were very good at that.

                  So what ever the hell you people are smoking that makes jordan bigger than his team. bigger than than the other 2 50 best players rodman and pippen are in that leauge. that made all the d and that the others players played that less important. I guess jordan can guard his man and the other 4 players at the same time. he may be able to score on 3 or 4 at the same but not guard them. And i guess he gave his self assist and kicked it back to his self when the d collapsed on him. He was the best one on one scorer but he didnt carry his team no more than the triangle asked for."


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                  • marq
                    Pro
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 549

                    #144
                    Re: Kobe or MJ?

                    "for one i am a chicago fan and jordan fan. And i dont smoke anything so watch ya mouth. But as i watch the bulls through the years. It seems for a team sport like basketball. My team the bulls has been turned to the chicago jordan not the chicago bulls. Jordan was great. that is true. But no one can put all of the bulls success on him. You say when he left the bulls stop winning yes they stop winning champioships not games they made it to the playoffs. and duplicated the record they had when he was there.

                    Yeah they didnt win it all. but damn they didnt replace him with an allstar caliber player either. They didnt replace him with a top 50 caliber player did they.

                    Everybody wants to give jordan all the credit but he would not i repeat would not could not take that same bulls team anyfurther than pippen did with out pippen and pippen wasnt as good as jordan. He didnt do it for the wizards and even in early day couldnt do with out pippen and couldnt do it in his prime with out pippen.

                    And dont forget his jump shooters the bulls done had two of the best 3 point shooter. kerr and hodges. Paxon and bj were good jumpshooter two. Why are the lacker loosing because there other players cant hit a jump shot.

                    Dont take from the bulls team and 72 wins yeah jordan was back but they added the best rebounder in the game to that team also who was one of the best defence of player. He was jordan equal at what he does scorer jordan there was none better at that time rebounding rodman none better at that time. equally at playing d and rodman handled shaq with out double teams. so jordan made him better. that was a team effort Jordan was the greatest player at that time. but please dont over hype him he had a team that was put together very well. All the people fit together like a quilt. you can draw all the double teams you want but when you kick it out it up to that player to knock down the shot and the rest of the bulls were very good at that.

                    So what ever the hell you people are smoking that makes jordan bigger than his team. bigger than than the other 2 50 best players rodman and pippen are in that leauge. that made all the d and that the others players played that less important. I guess jordan can guard his man and the other 4 players at the same time. he may be able to score on 3 or 4 at the same but not guard them. And i guess he gave his self assist and kicked it back to his self when the d collapsed on him. He was the best one on one scorer but he didnt carry his team no more than the triangle asked for."


                    Comment

                    • marq
                      Pro
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 549

                      #145
                      Re: Kobe or MJ?

                      "for one i am a chicago fan and jordan fan. And i dont smoke anything so watch ya mouth. But as i watch the bulls through the years. It seems for a team sport like basketball. My team the bulls has been turned to the chicago jordan not the chicago bulls. Jordan was great. that is true. But no one can put all of the bulls success on him. You say when he left the bulls stop winning yes they stop winning champioships not games they made it to the playoffs. and duplicated the record they had when he was there.

                      Yeah they didnt win it all. but damn they didnt replace him with an allstar caliber player either. They didnt replace him with a top 50 caliber player did they.

                      Everybody wants to give jordan all the credit but he would not i repeat would not could not take that same bulls team anyfurther than pippen did with out pippen and pippen wasnt as good as jordan. He didnt do it for the wizards and even in early day couldnt do with out pippen and couldnt do it in his prime with out pippen.

                      And dont forget his jump shooters the bulls done had two of the best 3 point shooter. kerr and hodges. Paxon and bj were good jumpshooter two. Why are the lacker loosing because there other players cant hit a jump shot.

                      Dont take from the bulls team and 72 wins yeah jordan was back but they added the best rebounder in the game to that team also who was one of the best defence of player. He was jordan equal at what he does scorer jordan there was none better at that time rebounding rodman none better at that time. equally at playing d and rodman handled shaq with out double teams. so jordan made him better. that was a team effort Jordan was the greatest player at that time. but please dont over hype him he had a team that was put together very well. All the people fit together like a quilt. you can draw all the double teams you want but when you kick it out it up to that player to knock down the shot and the rest of the bulls were very good at that.

                      So what ever the hell you people are smoking that makes jordan bigger than his team. bigger than than the other 2 50 best players rodman and pippen are in that leauge. that made all the d and that the others players played that less important. I guess jordan can guard his man and the other 4 players at the same time. he may be able to score on 3 or 4 at the same but not guard them. And i guess he gave his self assist and kicked it back to his self when the d collapsed on him. He was the best one on one scorer but he didnt carry his team no more than the triangle asked for."


                      Comment

                      • Jistic
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 16405

                        #146
                        Re: Kobe or MJ?

                        Somebody lock this thread please!
                        PSN: JISTIC_OS
                        XBOX LIVE: JISTIC

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                        • Jistic
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 16405

                          #147
                          Re: Kobe or MJ?

                          Somebody lock this thread please!
                          PSN: JISTIC_OS
                          XBOX LIVE: JISTIC

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                          • Jistic
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 16405

                            #148
                            Re: Kobe or MJ?

                            Somebody lock this thread please!
                            PSN: JISTIC_OS
                            XBOX LIVE: JISTIC

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                            • marq
                              Pro
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 549

                              #149
                              Re: Kobe or MJ?

                              </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                              Jistic said:
                              Somebody lock this thread please!

                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                              I second this...the Kobe fans are absolutely nuts...

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                              • marq
                                Pro
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 549

                                #150
                                Re: Kobe or MJ?

                                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                                Jistic said:
                                Somebody lock this thread please!

                                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                                I second this...the Kobe fans are absolutely nuts...

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