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  • Muzyk23
    MVP
    • Feb 2003
    • 4192

    #31
    Re: Kobe or MJ?

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    ultimatewrstlr51 said:
    This is basically a runoff of the Kobe or Shaq thread i posted earlier. But who would you rather have in a clutch situation on your team?

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    please no...
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    • Fierce2k4
      Pro
      • Jul 2002
      • 533

      #32
      Re: Kobe or MJ?

      Whoever voted for Kobe is either just joking around, or has no idea about how the game of basketball is played.
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      • Fierce2k4
        Pro
        • Jul 2002
        • 533

        #33
        Re: Kobe or MJ?

        Whoever voted for Kobe is either just joking around, or has no idea about how the game of basketball is played.
        http://twitter.com/shiz86 @Shiz86
        NFL Team: Dallas Cowboys
        NBA Team: New York Knicks
        College Football Team: Florida State Seminoles
        College Basketball Team: UNC Tar Heels

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        • Fierce2k4
          Pro
          • Jul 2002
          • 533

          #34
          Re: Kobe or MJ?

          Whoever voted for Kobe is either just joking around, or has no idea about how the game of basketball is played.
          http://twitter.com/shiz86 @Shiz86
          NFL Team: Dallas Cowboys
          NBA Team: New York Knicks
          College Football Team: Florida State Seminoles
          College Basketball Team: UNC Tar Heels

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          • 49ersrule23
            Banned
            • Apr 2003
            • 647

            #35
            Re: Kobe or MJ?

            This is a question right.

            This a no-brainer. MJ,MJ,MJ. As clutch as Kobe is Michael Jordan is still the greatest under pressure.

            One sentence: 1997 Utah Game 6

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            • 49ersrule23
              Banned
              • Apr 2003
              • 647

              #36
              Re: Kobe or MJ?

              This is a question right.

              This a no-brainer. MJ,MJ,MJ. As clutch as Kobe is Michael Jordan is still the greatest under pressure.

              One sentence: 1997 Utah Game 6

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              • 49ersrule23
                Banned
                • Apr 2003
                • 647

                #37
                Re: Kobe or MJ?

                This is a question right.

                This a no-brainer. MJ,MJ,MJ. As clutch as Kobe is Michael Jordan is still the greatest under pressure.

                One sentence: 1997 Utah Game 6

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                • Leon
                  An Old Trafford
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 4981

                  #38
                  Re: Kobe or MJ?

                  </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                  49ersrule23 said:
                  This is a question right.

                  This a no-brainer. MJ,MJ,MJ. As clutch as Kobe is Michael Jordan is still the greatest under pressure.

                  One sentence: 1997 Utah Game 6

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                  1998, not 1997. Unless of course, you're talking about Game 5, 1997.
                  "It's not how big you are; it's how big you play" - David Thompson

                  @nicroni

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                  • Leon
                    An Old Trafford
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 4981

                    #39
                    Re: Kobe or MJ?

                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    49ersrule23 said:
                    This is a question right.

                    This a no-brainer. MJ,MJ,MJ. As clutch as Kobe is Michael Jordan is still the greatest under pressure.

                    One sentence: 1997 Utah Game 6

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                    1998, not 1997. Unless of course, you're talking about Game 5, 1997.
                    "It's not how big you are; it's how big you play" - David Thompson

                    @nicroni

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                    • Leon
                      An Old Trafford
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 4981

                      #40
                      Re: Kobe or MJ?

                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      49ersrule23 said:
                      This is a question right.

                      This a no-brainer. MJ,MJ,MJ. As clutch as Kobe is Michael Jordan is still the greatest under pressure.

                      One sentence: 1997 Utah Game 6

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      1998, not 1997. Unless of course, you're talking about Game 5, 1997.
                      "It's not how big you are; it's how big you play" - David Thompson

                      @nicroni

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                      • SonicMage
                        NBA Ratings Wizard
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 3544

                        #41
                        Re: Kobe or MJ?

                        There's not much debate here.

                        Everybody talks about Kobe's game-tying shot for Game 2 but not that he took that stupid 3-point attempt a minute before that put them in that situation to begin with. The difference with Jordan is that he might have made that same game-tying shot, but he would NEVER have taken that ill-advised shot before it. Unlike with Kobe, no one would ever once question MJ's moves. If MJ were to commit a turnover or get his shot blocked, more often than not, it was not because of his own mistakes, but because the defender was simply better than him on that play. Kobe can make plays that make people ask "What the heck are you doing?!!" There's the difference.
                        NBA 2K18 ratings for several seasons generated from advanced analytics using the SportsCrunch system:

                        Sonicmage NBA 2K18 Ratings 2017-18 season
                        Link to Ratings 1996-2017
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                        Discussion found here

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                        • SonicMage
                          NBA Ratings Wizard
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 3544

                          #42
                          Re: Kobe or MJ?

                          There's not much debate here.

                          Everybody talks about Kobe's game-tying shot for Game 2 but not that he took that stupid 3-point attempt a minute before that put them in that situation to begin with. The difference with Jordan is that he might have made that same game-tying shot, but he would NEVER have taken that ill-advised shot before it. Unlike with Kobe, no one would ever once question MJ's moves. If MJ were to commit a turnover or get his shot blocked, more often than not, it was not because of his own mistakes, but because the defender was simply better than him on that play. Kobe can make plays that make people ask "What the heck are you doing?!!" There's the difference.
                          NBA 2K18 ratings for several seasons generated from advanced analytics using the SportsCrunch system:

                          Sonicmage NBA 2K18 Ratings 2017-18 season
                          Link to Ratings 1996-2017
                          Link to Ratings 1973-1996
                          Link to Ratings All-time

                          Discussion found here

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                          • SonicMage
                            NBA Ratings Wizard
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 3544

                            #43
                            Re: Kobe or MJ?

                            There's not much debate here.

                            Everybody talks about Kobe's game-tying shot for Game 2 but not that he took that stupid 3-point attempt a minute before that put them in that situation to begin with. The difference with Jordan is that he might have made that same game-tying shot, but he would NEVER have taken that ill-advised shot before it. Unlike with Kobe, no one would ever once question MJ's moves. If MJ were to commit a turnover or get his shot blocked, more often than not, it was not because of his own mistakes, but because the defender was simply better than him on that play. Kobe can make plays that make people ask "What the heck are you doing?!!" There's the difference.
                            NBA 2K18 ratings for several seasons generated from advanced analytics using the SportsCrunch system:

                            Sonicmage NBA 2K18 Ratings 2017-18 season
                            Link to Ratings 1996-2017
                            Link to Ratings 1973-1996
                            Link to Ratings All-time

                            Discussion found here

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                            • LedouxRoc
                              Rookie
                              • May 2004
                              • 135

                              #44
                              Re: Kobe or MJ?

                              </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                              Sonicmage said:
                              There's not much debate here.

                              Everybody talks about Kobe's game-tying shot for Game 2 but not that he took that stupid 3-point attempt a minute before that put them in that situation to begin with. The difference with Jordan is that he might have made that same game-tying shot, but he would NEVER have taken that ill-advised shot before it. Unlike with Kobe, no one would ever once question MJ's moves. If MJ were to commit a turnover or get his shot blocked, more often than not, it was not because of his own mistakes, but because the defender was simply better than him on that play. Kobe can make plays that make people ask "What the heck are you doing?!!" There's the difference.

                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">


                              Kobe had to take that first three. LA was down by six with 40secs left on the clock and 1 timeout. The fact that Shaq made the 3pt play is the only reason the Lakers could have been in the position to tie the game, a 2 pointer wouldn't cut it. It was quick shot time.

                              You know when someone is idolized to much, when you start saying that they never make mistakes.

                              Jordan &gt; Kobe, but at the same time, Jordan was not GOD.

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                              • LedouxRoc
                                Rookie
                                • May 2004
                                • 135

                                #45
                                Re: Kobe or MJ?

                                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                                Sonicmage said:
                                There's not much debate here.

                                Everybody talks about Kobe's game-tying shot for Game 2 but not that he took that stupid 3-point attempt a minute before that put them in that situation to begin with. The difference with Jordan is that he might have made that same game-tying shot, but he would NEVER have taken that ill-advised shot before it. Unlike with Kobe, no one would ever once question MJ's moves. If MJ were to commit a turnover or get his shot blocked, more often than not, it was not because of his own mistakes, but because the defender was simply better than him on that play. Kobe can make plays that make people ask "What the heck are you doing?!!" There's the difference.

                                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">


                                Kobe had to take that first three. LA was down by six with 40secs left on the clock and 1 timeout. The fact that Shaq made the 3pt play is the only reason the Lakers could have been in the position to tie the game, a 2 pointer wouldn't cut it. It was quick shot time.

                                You know when someone is idolized to much, when you start saying that they never make mistakes.

                                Jordan &gt; Kobe, but at the same time, Jordan was not GOD.

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