World Cup of Basketball in Spain

[VDusen04]

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But this was SO AVOIDABLE. Thats what makes it so frustrating. If the NBA would stop being cheap bastards, get basket bases that went farther back, remove seats and push reporters back, this wouldnt have happened.

I dont give a **** if Johnny No Name cant get the perfect shot for the local newspaper.

I never really stopped to really think about it but after taking a look at some clips, I agree with you guys, the stanchion is awfully close to the baseline. Even most high school courts have more room between the hoop and the wall. Though, if I had to play devil's advocate, I'm betting the NBA has figured for years that since there is no wall in their arenas, with just sitting people and a small touch of a stanchion, they probably thought they could afford to not need as much space.

However, there's been a small murmur of uproar in recent years from some players about a lack of space so I'm thinking this injury is going to drive the point home, even though the stanchion may have been a little closer than normal.

With no injury occurring in this manner in NBA history though (ankle getting caught on stanchion, resulting in gruesome break), it's hard for me to say the league should have had the foresight to predict it was going to happen one time over the course of thousands and thousands of games and thus should warranted the entire stanchion system being moved even further back before this injury occurred.

In terms of stability, I am curious how far they'd be able move the base on those stanchions, as I'm sure it'll now be up for consideration.

[OkayC]

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Has D. Rose played ?

Yea, he got up the court in like 3 dribbles twice. he had like 9 points in like 3 strait possessions

[King_B_Mack]

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He looked great in the preseason too...let's not get ahead of ourselves

Let's not go nuts either way. He didn't look this good in the preseason either. This is definitely different from how he looked there.

[DJ_Solis]

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Guys who watched the scrimmage can you give a recap? I saw the terrible George injury but how did the other players look?

Rose started great. Made some athletic plays including a very impressive coast to coast layup after a made basket. DeRozan shot the ball well. Boogie played pretty well.
Other than that, not much stood out to me. Like someone else said, it was pretty sloppy. Particularly, the benches.

[cavsfan2]

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I never really stopped to really think about it but after taking a look at some clips, I agree with you guys, the stanchion is awfully close to the baseline. Even most high school courts have more room between the hoop and the wall. Though, if I had to play devil's advocate, I'm betting the NBA has figured for years that since there is no wall in their arenas, with just sitting people and a small touch of a stanchion, they probably thought they could afford to not need as much space.

However, there's been a small murmur of uproar in recent years from some players about a lack of space so I'm thinking this injury is going to drive the point home, even though the stanchion may have been a little closer than normal.

With no injury occurring in this manner in NBA history though (ankle getting caught on stanchion, resulting in gruesome break), it's hard for me to say the league should have had the foresight to predict it was going to happen one time over the course of thousands and thousands of games and thus should warranted the entire stanchion system being moved even further back before this injury occurred.

In terms of stability, I am curious how far they'd be able move the base on those stanchions, as I'm sure it'll now be up for consideration.

When I played HS ball I played in some **** gyms, but none of the bases were that close.

Honestly, I felt the safest when it was a solid wall along the baseline with some padding.

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Players... Steph looks pale

[VDusen04]

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When I played HS ball I played in some **** gyms, but none of the bases were that close.

Honestly, I felt the safest when it was a solid wall along the baseline with some padding.

For whatever it's worth, most of the gyms in which I played had baskets hung from the ceiling so stanchions were not even present. And not to be difficult, but the few times I did play amongst basket stanchions, I felt a lot less at risk of injury than when there was solid or padded wall back there.

Having just a stanchion usually meant it'd take something incredibly freaky to create a serious injury, like we saw tonight. In contrast, with the wall, a pad was only going to help so much. Unfortunately, it didn't prevent my broken wrist and concussion when I crashed into it my sophomore year, nor did it stop one of my players from losing consciousness when he careened into it years later.

I'd definitely prefer a stanchion to a padded wall.

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I'd just say the walls definitely aren't padded enough and not really padded to account for the harder crashes to be honest.

[OkayC]

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Players... Steph looks pale

The players faces were what really made me realize the reality of what happened. I personally felt devastated after seeing their reactions, i wanted to tear up, so i know the other guys on the team for were competin with niagara falls when they saw what happened.

[TMagic]

World Cup of Basketball in Spain

Im no doctor...But My degree is in exercise science.

Like Dre posted, he should be good to go. Dont think his career is over at all.

Watching the replay, it doesnt look like a knee or ankle. Just a complete fracture of his tibula and fibula.

Id be willing to bet he plays next year. And I wouldnt be surprised to see him suit up before this season is up. Seriously. 3 to 6 months is typical recovery time for this kind of injury.

This is not like a Shaun Livingston situation. It just looks worse than what it is.

He'll be good to go after surgery and he wont have to worry about a break there again after it recovers.

Pacers still have their franchise player.

[redsrule]

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Im no doctor...But My degree is in exercise science.

Like Dre posted, he should be good to go. Dont think his career is over at all.

Watching the replay, it doesnt look like a knee or ankle. Just a complete fracture of his tibula and fibula.

Id be willing to bet he plays next year. And I wouldnt be surprised to see him suit up before this season is up. Seriously. 3 to 6 months is typical recovery time for this kind of injury.

This is not like a Shaun Livingston situation. It just looks worse than what it is.

He'll be good to go after surgery and the he wont have to worry about a break there again after it recovers.

Pacers still have their franchise player.

That was the worst injury in basketball I have ever seen. Livingston's knee was obliterated. It's remarkable that he was ever able to play again, let alone at the level he did last year.

[VDusen04]

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I'd just say the walls definitely aren't padded enough and not really padded to account for the harder crashes to be honest.

Truth. I went ahead and took an extended look at the Noel injury tonight as well (in addition to regrettably watch the George play one too many times). I don't mean to inject my personal experiences into this stuff again, but they both reminded me of the play I was talking about above where I broke my wrist. My play also occurred on a chasedown block.

In each play, it seemed to be a matter of a player sprinting so hard to catch up that their jump was more horizontal than it was vertical, with their sprinting momentum leading to landing much further along the baseline than 99.9% of any other play ever made on the hardwood. In my case, I felt like I hardly even left the floor, but I covered way more distance than normal and landed a foot before the wall with no chance of saving myself. It appeared to be the same story for both George and Noel.

Long story short, I consider them freak plays. Every other chasedown block or attempt has been way more standard than that one instance. The distance from stanchion to baseline may still need to be increased (especially if it's an easy fix) but I feel these were unusual plays regardless and henceforth potentially unsafe even with additional room.

Edit: Then again, I don't know. Maybe another foot would make a huge difference. As a player, I bet it'd be an interesting adjustment to deal with the dangling feet and low bridging nature of cameramen as I careened toward the baseline.

Another example:

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I wasn't much of a long jumper but was a pretty good vertical jumper, but at the same time, this goal post thing is an issue along with the camera men and has been for a long time.

If anything this needs to be on Adam Silvers front desk first thing Monday morning, screw having the @nba on the basketball.

This is a technicality that there is really no excuse to overlook at all because its always right in front of your face and in basketball man any kind of play can happen that could send you forward momentum into the goal post on the ground or in the air.

We don't need to find out first hand how many ways there actually are before they do something about it.

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OS is pulling for you Paul

[redsrule]

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I can watch that forever. My favorite block of all time.


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I expect something to be done about it. Adam Silver looks like he has "it". I expect him to fix this, now that one their young stars have had this awful injury. Should have happened way before this though. Nerlens injury and his could have been avoided.