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**sonofsiam** · 07-14-2004, 04:42 AM

Re: Do the Kobe critics even know the basics?

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KDRE said:
Again, what an informative basketball post. Attack me in any thread I post in and call me a hata, and sarcasm besides debating the post or actually looking at an opinion different than yours.

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I shall cease any personal attacks and apologise.

Again, if you read my posts correctly, you'll see I didn't offer opinion. I said "I don't know" and "only time will tell".

You do realise also that you just described exactly what you do re Kobe Bryant in every post you enter.

Let's all agree to drop it and wait and see.

**Programmed2Kill** · 07-14-2004, 05:42 AM

Re: Do the Kobe critics even know the basics?

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sonofsiam said:
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KDRE said:

MJ didn't curse Phil out. He knew Phil was important to winning. Kobe just didn't care. MJ never got Phil fired, or Pip traded or any of this madness Kobe is in the middle of.

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How soon they all forget. You do know MJ got one coach fired and multiple team mates traded.

In the end, he WON. And basically, that's all that matters. If Kobe wins, it will be the same.

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Doug Collins....Phil Jackson. Hmm.

Brad Sellers....Scottie Pippen. Hmm.

Yeah Money had plenty of goods back then before the dynasty pieves came along

**Programmed2Kill** · 07-14-2004, 05:42 AM

Re: Do the Kobe critics even know the basics?

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sonofsiam said:
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KDRE said:

MJ didn't curse Phil out. He knew Phil was important to winning. Kobe just didn't care. MJ never got Phil fired, or Pip traded or any of this madness Kobe is in the middle of.

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How soon they all forget. You do know MJ got one coach fired and multiple team mates traded.

In the end, he WON. And basically, that's all that matters. If Kobe wins, it will be the same.

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Doug Collins....Phil Jackson. Hmm.

Brad Sellers....Scottie Pippen. Hmm.

Yeah Money had plenty of goods back then before the dynasty pieves came along

**Programmed2Kill** · 07-14-2004, 05:42 AM

Re: Do the Kobe critics even know the basics?

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sonofsiam said:
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KDRE said:

MJ didn't curse Phil out. He knew Phil was important to winning. Kobe just didn't care. MJ never got Phil fired, or Pip traded or any of this madness Kobe is in the middle of.

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How soon they all forget. You do know MJ got one coach fired and multiple team mates traded.

In the end, he WON. And basically, that's all that matters. If Kobe wins, it will be the same.

<hr /></blockquote>

Doug Collins....Phil Jackson. Hmm.

Brad Sellers....Scottie Pippen. Hmm.

Yeah Money had plenty of goods back then before the dynasty pieves came along

**Programmed2Kill** · 07-14-2004, 05:47 AM

Re: Do the Kobe critics even know the basics?

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sonofsiam said:

Okay..............because your slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww........the system and pieces were not built for Kobe. Is that hard to work out. I didn't see the Bulls dump it into their Centre. I didn't see the "role players" built around the post game.

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Well if Kobe's punk butt actually cowboy'd up and forcefully fit his @ss into the triangle like a good lil' soldier for the greater good of the team, maybe everybody would be coming back.

That's the difference between Money and Kobe. Mike sacrificed parts of his game for the team to win.

And last time I checked, Michael never got "son'd" in the Finals like Kobe did. And that's real.

**Programmed2Kill** · 07-14-2004, 05:47 AM

Re: Do the Kobe critics even know the basics?

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sonofsiam said:

Okay..............because your slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww........the system and pieces were not built for Kobe. Is that hard to work out. I didn't see the Bulls dump it into their Centre. I didn't see the "role players" built around the post game.

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Well if Kobe's punk butt actually cowboy'd up and forcefully fit his @ss into the triangle like a good lil' soldier for the greater good of the team, maybe everybody would be coming back.

That's the difference between Money and Kobe. Mike sacrificed parts of his game for the team to win.

And last time I checked, Michael never got "son'd" in the Finals like Kobe did. And that's real.

**Programmed2Kill** · 07-14-2004, 05:47 AM

Re: Do the Kobe critics even know the basics?

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sonofsiam said:

Okay..............because your slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww........the system and pieces were not built for Kobe. Is that hard to work out. I didn't see the Bulls dump it into their Centre. I didn't see the "role players" built around the post game.

<hr /></blockquote>

Well if Kobe's punk butt actually cowboy'd up and forcefully fit his @ss into the triangle like a good lil' soldier for the greater good of the team, maybe everybody would be coming back.

That's the difference between Money and Kobe. Mike sacrificed parts of his game for the team to win.

And last time I checked, Michael never got "son'd" in the Finals like Kobe did. And that's real.

**nkhera1** · 07-14-2004, 08:36 AM

Re: Do the Kobe critics even know the basics?

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KDRE said:
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Slip said:
How is anyone going to compare Kobe, a 25 year old kid, to Michael, an NBA legend?

Give it some time, please....

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talk to your fellow poster who started this thread.

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nobody was comparing him to mj they just said he's the best since, but i think he is the best 2 guard since not best player since.

**nkhera1** · 07-14-2004, 08:36 AM

Re: Do the Kobe critics even know the basics?

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KDRE said:
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Slip said:
How is anyone going to compare Kobe, a 25 year old kid, to Michael, an NBA legend?

Give it some time, please....

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talk to your fellow poster who started this thread.

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nobody was comparing him to mj they just said he's the best since, but i think he is the best 2 guard since not best player since.

**nkhera1** · 07-14-2004, 08:36 AM

Re: Do the Kobe critics even know the basics?

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KDRE said:
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Slip said:
How is anyone going to compare Kobe, a 25 year old kid, to Michael, an NBA legend?

Give it some time, please....

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talk to your fellow poster who started this thread.

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nobody was comparing him to mj they just said he's the best since, but i think he is the best 2 guard since not best player since.

**nkhera1** · 07-14-2004, 08:40 AM

Re: Do the Kobe critics even know the basics?

Ok lets get this straight once and for all.

Kobe is the best 2 in the league since jordan. Kobe has a crappy attitude. We can't judge kobe until we see him on his own team.

**nkhera1** · 07-14-2004, 08:40 AM

Re: Do the Kobe critics even know the basics?

Ok lets get this straight once and for all.

Kobe is the best 2 in the league since jordan. Kobe has a crappy attitude. We can't judge kobe until we see him on his own team.

**nkhera1** · 07-14-2004, 08:40 AM

Re: Do the Kobe critics even know the basics?

Ok lets get this straight once and for all.

Kobe is the best 2 in the league since jordan. Kobe has a crappy attitude. We can't judge kobe until we see him on his own team.

**Air23** · 07-14-2004, 04:07 PM

Re: Do the Kobe critics even know the basics?

I wonder if Kobe can get better? Has he peaked yet? MJ's prime years (when his overall game was at his highest) were from 27 to 33).

Kobe started his career earlier than MJ did, so it's possible these could be his peak years. I think this upcoming season (IF he's not conviced or has to spend a lot of time in court) will tell us if he will become an even better player.

**Air23** · 07-14-2004, 04:07 PM

Re: Do the Kobe critics even know the basics?

I wonder if Kobe can get better? Has he peaked yet? MJ's prime years (when his overall game was at his highest) were from 27 to 33).

Kobe started his career earlier than MJ did, so it's possible these could be his peak years. I think this upcoming season (IF he's not conviced or has to spend a lot of time in court) will tell us if he will become an even better player.

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