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  • ojandpizza
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    • Apr 2011
    • 29807

    #316
    Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
    Don't you kinda think that if this is what it took to make him struggle that plenty of teams would try this suggestion and that there would be tape of it out by now?

    There might be a tape if someone would try it. We aren't going to know until someone does try it. It's better than just sticking to what they are doing, it hasn't been working. I mean if it doesn't help any they are in the same position they are in now right?

    I'm just not a fan of them scrambling out to other guys all game and losing Curry and Klay in their rotations. Nor am I a fan of just letting Curry walk the ball up and start working off all those P-n-R situations.

    All I'm saying is it's what I would try. Spurs used Joseph to do the same thing to Chris Paul the other night. They forced Crawford to bring it up. Unfortunately for them he had a great shooting night hitting all those off balance pull-ups. But I would be comfortable as a coach making any one on the court other than Curry create for themselves and others. That's the one area Klay is still somewhat lacking at, and Barnes/Green aren't exactly point forwards.

    I'm not saying it would be easy to just go out and do all of that perfectly. But letting Curry do what he wants to do is making it easy for Golden State. Talent and depth wise the Pelicans are a far inferior team. The only shot they have is forcing Golden State out of their comfort zone, or at least trying to.


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    • Hockeynut99
      MVP
      • Jan 2013
      • 1328

      #317
      Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by ojandpizza
      I would face guard Curry full length of the court, all game deny him the ball the best I could.. And take a away Klay's 3.. Make him beat you off the dribble, make him be the playmaker. If those other guys get the occasional open shot you just live with it.


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      Haha if you do that to Steph, Kay will be open all game long. Plus Green and Bogut would be open all night. At least that is the way I see it.

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      • ojandpizza
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        • Apr 2011
        • 29807

        #318
        Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by Hockeynut99
        Haha if you do that to Steph, Kay will be open all game long. Plus Green and Bogut would be open all night. At least that is the way I see it.

        Basically.. I wouldn't just leave anybody wide open, not suggesting to use 4 guys to guard Steph lol. But if Barnes or Green caught the ball on a kickout I would not frantically run out to him. I would stay put and try to take away the next pass. If Green and Barnes are going to beat me by hitting 3's with their man running out to them so be it. It's better than the off defender scrambling to him and leaving a pass to the next guy open and then scrambling to him leaving just one more pass to a wide open Klay, 2nd best catch and shooter player in the league.

        That's where they are killing the Pelicans. I would also double Curry on the high screen and roll. This soft hedge crap is just letting him get to the basket for those kick outs and the occasional dump to Bogut for a layup/dunk. If he has to kick to a wide open Bogut at the top of the key or free throw line area then you live with that IMO.. Trying to force Klay to be the guy who brings the ball up limits those screen and roll situations anyways.

        Once Speights, Iggy, Green, etc hit a shot or two players just start running out to them like they are Kyle Korver.. All that does is allow 2-3 more easy passes and you get a wide open Klay or Curry.. I think you do everything you can to make those other guys beat you. If Green drops 20 points, Speights goes 4/4, and Barnes/Iggy knock down a few 3 threes then oh well. They aren't consistent enough for me to game plan in a way that leaves Klay wide open or let's the ball stick in Curry's hand.


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        • Hockeynut99
          MVP
          • Jan 2013
          • 1328

          #319
          Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

          Barns is a star waiting to happen. He is still so young. steph is just as dangerous with out the ball as he is with ball. The only thing that this team needs to fixed is the turn overs and making free throws.

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          • PurplePitchers
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            • Jul 2011
            • 422

            #320
            Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

            Parsons is out. Not sure if this is a bad thing or a good thing.
            Throw up the X!

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            • Streets
              Supreme
              • Aug 2004
              • 5787

              #321
              Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by PurplePitchers
              Parsons is out. Not sure if this is a bad thing or a good thing.
              Definitely a good thing so far.

              If you're Dallas you have to ecstatic right now. Houston literally beating themselves missing wide open looks and point blank layups.

              Dallas can definitely take this one.

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              • DJ_Solis
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                • Jan 2014
                • 2216

                #322
                Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                Really nothing to look at here. Just play on.


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                • ojandpizza
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                  • Apr 2011
                  • 29807

                  #323
                  Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                  Man I expected Dallas to be a better team than this come playoff time.. Also, I would hate to see where this Houston team would be at without Harden, they desperately need a point guard.


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                  • Streets
                    Supreme
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 5787

                    #324
                    Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by ojandpizza
                    Man I expected Dallas to be a better team than this come playoff time.. Also, I would hate to see where this Houston team would be at without Harden, they desperately need a point guard.


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                    I'm not a Dallas fan, so I don't know a lot about them, but based on these first two games, they seem to have chemistry issues. That said, Dallas should be happy this game.

                    Though I will say, Dallas' flopping is making the game damn near unwatchable. It's really bad.

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                    • SteelersFreak
                      All Star
                      • May 2004
                      • 9582

                      #325
                      Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by Streets
                      I'm not a Dallas fan, so I don't know a lot about them, but based on these first two games, they seem to have chemistry issues. That said, Dallas should be happy this game.

                      Though I will say, Dallas' flopping is making the game damn near unwatchable. It's really bad.
                      A Mavs/Rockets game and the Mavs are the one who are flopping? You can't come within 5 feet of Harden or Howard without getting a foul called on you. The Rockets haven't even gone more than 2 straight possessions without picking up a foul in the second half.

                      That being said, the Rockets are getting a ludicrously high number of easy buckets at the rim, while everything the Mavs are getting are tough, challenged shots.

                      And yes, the Mavs have chemistry issues. Part of that comes from various injuries throughout the year, part of it comes from the Rondo trade and how much it has changed the style of play when he's in the game. Not having Harris in this game isn't helping either because its effecting the usual bench rotations, and I don't think we need to mention how not having a healthy Chandler Parsons effects this Mavs team.

                      Aminu needs more minutes. For the first time as well, I've seriously started questioning the trade. Rondo isn't engaged for whatever reason with this team. I guess he and Carlisle can't reconcile their differences halfway through a season. And I can't help but think how nice it would be to have Jae Crowder and Brandan Wright in a series like this.
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                      • ojandpizza
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 29807

                        #326
                        Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                        Josh Smith has the first positive playoff impact of his career and now he starts throwing up stupid 3's again.. This dude will just never get it


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                        • King_B_Mack
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                          • Jan 2009
                          • 24450

                          #327
                          Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by ojandpizza
                          Josh Smith has the first positive playoff impact of his career and now he starts throwing up stupid 3's again.. This dude will just never get it


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                          To be fair to Josh, he was open. But he should know by now that him being open behind the arc is because people know he can't shoot.

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                          • areobee401
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                            • Apr 2006
                            • 16771

                            #328
                            Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by SteelersFreak
                            And yes, the Mavs have chemistry issues. Part of that comes from various injuries throughout the year, part of it comes from the Rondo trade and how much it has changed the style of play when he's in the game. Not having Harris in this game isn't helping either because its effecting the usual bench rotations, and I don't think we need to mention how not having a healthy Chandler Parsons effects this Mavs team.

                            Aminu needs more minutes. For the first time as well, I've seriously started questioning the trade. Rondo isn't engaged for whatever reason with this team. I guess he and Carlisle can't reconcile their differences halfway through a season. And I can't help but think how nice it would be to have Jae Crowder and Brandan Wright in a series like this.

                            Tried to warn you what could come with adding Rondo in that Kyle Draper thread.
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                            • DJ_Solis
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 2216

                              #329
                              Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                              If Dirk and Amare are the bigs I might just run 4-5 pnr nonstop, if I was Houston.
                              Edit: they just ran another one while I was typing this lol

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                              Last edited by DJ_Solis; 04-21-2015, 10:59 PM.

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                              • ojandpizza
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 29807

                                #330
                                Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                                This is why I've thought McHale was an idiot for not running all these oop plays between Harden and Dwight the past couple years.


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