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  • CMH
    Making you famous
    • Oct 2002
    • 26203

    #2971
    Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by Caveman24
    Kings were really the only team interested in Rondo? I think he'll be fine in that up-tempo offense though.
    It's going to be a disaster.

    He didn't fit at all in the Mavericks offense.

    The Kings want to go faster? Best of luck.

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    "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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    • TheBrothers24
      SD/LA Chargers?
      • Sep 2007
      • 1915

      #2972
      Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

      Originally posted by Caveman24
      Upshaw can potentially be what Byombo is if not better. The future is NOW we have Russy, Clarkson, Randle, Upshaw(hopefully). I'm not saying that we need to get a star FA, but spending your cap on mid level guys just to do something hurts in the future. FA's not coming here until we start winning period.
      I didn't use our young players as our future because we've heard and said it enough but those 3 players aren't going to attract any FA for a few years. You're correct Upshaw could be better than Byombo but he has off the court issues that caused a 1 round talent to go undrafted.

      Also none of this matters until Kobe retires next summer and Byron Scott resigns for personal reasons. No one wants to play for a coach who doesn't see the value of a 3 point shot. This franchise needs a complete reset and that can't happen with Kobe & Byron clinging onto the past. Can't change ownership so we're stuck with the bickering siblings.
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      • Caveman24
        MVP
        • Jul 2011
        • 1350

        #2973
        Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

        Originally posted by TheBrothers24
        I didn't use our young players as our future because we've heard and said it enough but those 3 players aren't going to attract any FA for a few years. You're correct Upshaw could be better than Byombo but he has off the court issues that caused a 1 round talent to go undrafted.

        Also none of this matters until Kobe retires next summer and Byron Scott resigns for personal reasons. No one wants to play for a coach who doesn't see the value of a 3 point shot. This franchise needs a complete reset and that can't happen with Kobe & Byron clinging onto the past. Can't change ownership so we're stuck with the bickering siblings.


        Complete reset is coming in 2 years I can promise that. If we fire Scott expect Kurt Rambis to be the HC
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        • SteelersFreak
          All Star
          • May 2004
          • 9582

          #2974
          Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

          Originally posted by lakers24
          How it feels being a Laker fan everytime someone signs during free agency
          We all feel just horrible for you all.
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          • bigeastbumrush
            My Momma's Son
            • Feb 2003
            • 19245

            #2975
            Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

            Originally posted by vtcha
            Well outside of LA and LeBron, the next best free agents still available are;

            - Reggie Jackson (RFA)
            - Lou Williams
            - Rodney Stuckey
            - Kosta Koufos
            - David West
            - Enes Kanter (RFA)
            - J.R. Smith
            - Jordan Hill

            Knicks and Lakers might as well try signing Kanter.

            No point trying to tank since they don't have draft picks next season (Lakers top 3 protected however).
            Knicks got two first rounders this year (one via trade). And they got fringe first rounder Center Guillermo Hermangomez acquired from Philly (DX had him as #32) as a stash pick in Europe who will come over next year.

            Teams like Philly and Boston who get praised for acquiring so many picks are the reason teams with no picks like the Knicks and Nets can always sneak into the draft.

            Will they get a lottery pick next year? Highly unlikely. But the outlook isn't as bleak as it may appear to be.

            Originally posted by ojandpizza
            As for the Knicks, it seems as if a low post scorer has been what they are after. Surprised they haven't tried to pry away Kanter. For the price tag he's arguably a better cop that Brook Lopez would be. Hell in his 26 games with the Thunder last year he averaged 19 and 11. If the whole "triangle" thing ever actually works he would be tremendous on a team with good ball movement. He relied on WB to get him into his spots last year, but he was very effective on the p-n-r.

            Kinda surprised neither the Lakers or Knicks have went after Koufos either, hell even the Clippers. Got to see quite a bit of him in Memphis and he's a lot more mobile than you would imagine by looking at him. He can actually play power forward, and did on numerous occasions for Memphis. He reminds me a little of Mozgov, he's quicker and more mobile though, but not quite the shot blocker or finisher Mozgov is.


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            Yeah, I said I wanted Koufos. Knicks need a backup Center. He has a lot of nasty in him too lol. I think he'll go for more than the MLE which is why I think it'll be hard for them to get him.

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            • cima
              Hall Of Fame
              • Sep 2004
              • 13478

              #2976
              Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

              Cavs showing "strong interest" in David West. I guess this is under the assumption that Varejao suffers another season ending injury because I don't see where he gets his playing time with Love, Thompson, Mozgov, and Andy in the frontcourt already.

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              • ProfessaPackMan
                Bamma
                • Mar 2008
                • 63852

                #2977
                Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                Originally posted by ojandpizza
                As for the Knicks, it seems as if a low post scorer has been what they are after. Surprised they haven't tried to pry away Kanter. For the price tag he's arguably a better cop that Brook Lopez would be. Hell in his 26 games with the Thunder last year he averaged 19 and 11. If the whole "triangle" thing ever actually works he would be tremendous on a team with good ball movement. He relied on WB to get him into his spots last year, but he was very effective on the p-n-r.

                Kinda surprised neither the Lakers or Knicks have went after Koufos either, hell even the Clippers. Got to see quite a bit of him in Memphis and he's a lot more mobile than you would imagine by looking at him. He can actually play power forward, and did on numerous occasions for Memphis. He reminds me a little of Mozgov, he's quicker and more mobile though, but not quite the shot blocker or finisher Mozgov is.


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                How is he better than Lopez?
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                • AC
                  Win the East
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 14951

                  #2978
                  Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                  Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                  How is he better than Lopez?
                  He did say that he's better value, relative to price tag. I don't think oj means that he's outright better.

                  I think he's under-estimating Kanter's price tag tho
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                  • ojandpizza
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 29807

                    #2979
                    Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                    Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                    How is he better than Lopez?

                    For the price.

                    Like if they could get Kanter for 10-12 a year I would consider that better than Lopez at 20 a year. He's talented offensively, and doesn't have injury concerns.


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                    • ProfessaPackMan
                      Bamma
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 63852

                      #2980
                      Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                      I thought Lopez shed his injury concerns after last year or does he need to do it for more than half a year to get rid of that?
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                      • Majingir
                        Moderator
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 47576

                        #2981
                        Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                        Along with the Heat, Kings are interested in Lou Williams.

                        Go ahead and battle it out for him...offer Raptors the best price in a S&T while you're at it.

                        For either team, I'd hope it's a deal like: S&T Lou + option for Raptors to swap Clippers conditional 2017 1st rounder for that other teams 1st rounder(whichever one they're allowed to deal,whether it be 2017,2018,2019)

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                        • Jrocc23
                          MVP
                          • May 2010
                          • 3206

                          #2982
                          2015 Offseason Thread

                          Aldridge really went to the Spurs. They'll be title contenders for at least the next 3-4 years. Damn.

                          @WojYahooNBA: Free agent LaMarcus Aldridge will sign with the San Antonio Spurs, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
                          Last edited by Jrocc23; 07-04-2015, 11:12 AM.
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                          • CMH
                            Making you famous
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 26203

                            #2983
                            Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                            I like it!

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                            "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                            "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                            • cima
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 13478

                              #2984
                              Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                              Originally posted by Jrocc23
                              Aldridge really went to the Spurs. They'll be title contenders for at least the next 3-4 years. Damn.

                              @WojYahooNBA: Free agent LaMarcus Aldridge will sign with the San Antonio Spurs, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.


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                              Last edited by cima; 07-04-2015, 11:26 AM.

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                              • CMH
                                Making you famous
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 26203

                                #2985
                                Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                                One day Phoenix will land that star player. Sucks to see them continue to strike out there. They've got youth and pieces.

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                                "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                                "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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