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  • cima
    Hall Of Fame
    • Sep 2004
    • 13478

    #1006
    Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

    With Aldridge likely leaving Portland for another WC team and if say Gasol left Memphis, that would likely open 2 spots in the playoffs as Portland and Memphis would likely fall out. Plug OKC back in and there's room for a new team. I don't see any other WC team falling out of the playoff picture at this point, which is still very early. You'd expect NO to improve but I wouldn't consider them a lock at this point.

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    • JazzMan
      SOLDIER, First Class...
      • Feb 2012
      • 13547

      #1007
      Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

      I don't see Dallas doing much next year if they lose Monta and don't get Aldridge.
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      • cima
        Hall Of Fame
        • Sep 2004
        • 13478

        #1008
        Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

        Originally posted by JazzMan
        I don't see Dallas doing much next year if they lose Monta and don't get Aldridge.
        Very possible, Dirk ain't getting any younger. I guess the only locks (barring injury) are:

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        • wco81
          Banned
          • Jul 2002
          • 3305

          #1009
          Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

          Is Portland not going to try to retain LMA?

          Or has he indicated he wants to leave?

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          • cima
            Hall Of Fame
            • Sep 2004
            • 13478

            #1010
            Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

            Originally posted by wco81
            Is Portland not going to try to retain LMA?

            Or has he indicated he wants to leave?
            All signs point to him leaving and a story just posted that they're worried he is going to leave. According to Marc Stein, SA is the favorite to land him and LAL may have passed Dallas for #2 on his list.

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            • MattUM
              MVP
              • Aug 2013
              • 1051

              #1011
              Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

              I really want to see Kevin Love return to the Timberwolves lol.

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              Now that would be a team.
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              • 702
                Rookie
                • Aug 2005
                • 1165

                #1012
                Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                I'm sorry, but to be frank...

                Anyone that is worried about giving up Randle, Clarkson and the pick for Cousins as too much is absolutely insane. He's the best center in the league and he's 24 (!!) years old and he has 3 (!!!) years left on his deal to build around him.

                He has attitude problems, but at the same time he is an insanely talented and gifted player who really, truly gives a ****.

                I mean, really? Julius Randle?? A 6'8" 4 who doesn't project as an above average defender and can't shoot? Who missed his entire rookie year?

                Jordan ****ing Clarkson??? A combo guard who put up decent numbers on a horrendous team as a 22 year old rookie? There are Jordan Clarksons all over the league. You realize he is ONE year younger than DeMarcus?

                Yeah, the #2 pick is a big thing to give up. But even then, who are you drafting? If Okafor reaches his maximum potential (which is faaaar from a guarantee) then you know what he ends up as? Demarcus ****in Cousins.

                You guys are nuts. I don't understand.

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                • Vni
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 14833

                  #1013
                  Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                  Okafor + Randle + Clarkson + CAP SPACE is pretty good too. Theses rookies contract give you a lot of flexibility. It's not like Cousins will turn the team into a contender or even a playoff contender. Lakers should embrace the rebuild.

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                  • OkayC
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 1928

                    #1014
                    Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                    Originally posted by Vni
                    Okafor + Randle + Clarkson + CAP SPACE is pretty good too. Theses rookies contract give you a lot of flexibility. It's not like Cousins will turn the team into a contender or even a playoff contender. Lakers should embrace the rebuild.
                    Yea i agree, if we trade thise guys for cousins we basically moved him from sacto to another sacto. We dont get any better at all really. We at best make a lateral move.
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                    • 702
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 1165

                      #1015
                      Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                      Originally posted by Vni
                      Okafor + Randle + Clarkson + CAP SPACE is pretty good too. Theses rookies contract give you a lot of flexibility. It's not like Cousins will turn the team into a contender or even a playoff contender. Lakers should embrace the rebuild.
                      You realize the only player they have under contract past next season is Nick Young, right? That they'd still have monster cap space with Cousins on the roster? They could trade for Cousins and still sign LaMarcus Aldridge THIS summer??

                      I mean, they could trade for Cousins, sign a max guy, and STILL have 30+ million in cap space for 2016.

                      And not only that, but a roster with, again, a 24 year old who is the best center in the league, is immensely more attractive to these potential free agents than a bunch of young unproven guys.

                      There is not a single way you can convince me the Lakers would be better off not pulling the trigger on that deal. They're giving up cap space? To pay Cousins 15/16/17 million over the next three years? Roy Hibbert is getting 15 mil next year! You guys are delusional.

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                      • 23
                        yellow
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 66469

                        #1016
                        Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

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                        The Nuggets have made injury plagued but offensively talented forward Danilo Gallinari available for trade, a source told Yahoo Sports.
                        Back to reality

                        Should be exciting to see alot of moves happen tomorrow

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                        • Vni
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 14833

                          #1017
                          Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                          Is cousins the guy you want to build around though ? Is he attractive to other free agents ? I'am not saying it's a bad move but if you don't make that deal you're still in a good spot and if Okafor and Randle turns out to be good NBA players in 2016 you still have them and 3 max slots.

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                          • RedSceptile
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 3680

                            #1018
                            Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                            Lakers fans convincing themselves not to go for one of the top 3 guys at their position? My the times have changed.

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                            • Vni
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 14833

                              #1019
                              Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                              Originally posted by RedSceptile
                              Lakers fans convincing themselves not to go for one of the top 3 guys at their position? My the times have changed.
                              Top 3 guy talent wise yeah. I'am not convinced Cousins is the guy that leads your team to a championship.

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                              • 702
                                Rookie
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 1165

                                #1020
                                Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                                Originally posted by Vni
                                Is cousins the guy you want to build around though ? Is he attractive to other free agents ? I'am not saying it's a bad move but if you don't make that deal you're still in a good spot and if Okafor and Randle turns out to be good NBA players in 2016 you still have them and 3 max slots.
                                Yes, he is. He's a top 10 player in the league. He could be the best player on a championship team. Randle will never be that. Okafor will, more than likely, never be that. We don't know what either of them will be, but the odds are against them ever being on the level DeMarcus is already on.

                                Regardless of what you think of their current situation with the young guys, there is no question they'd be in a better spot making that deal. So if they turn that deal down because they feel like they're giving up too much, that's total nonsense. And for people to say "I'm not comfortable giving up Randle/Clarkson/the pick for him" is also, total nonsense.

                                Lakers fans are being gifted potentially the best center of his generation and are complaining they'd have to give up too much for him. Lmao.

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