The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

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  • ProfessaPackMan
    Bamma
    • Mar 2008
    • 63852

    #1516
    Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

    Damn, a year ago Mozgov was just the kind of big man the Cavs needed.

    1 year later, he's nothing worthy of even garbage time minutes. Life comes at you fast.
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    • redsox4evur
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jul 2013
      • 18169

      #1517
      Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

      Originally posted by The 24th Letter
      You don't think Malone was ever considered the best player in the league? I'm not even really speaking on you guys conversation so much...just wondering...

      He played during Jordan's era. And when Jordan was gone for that period of time was he better than Hakeem? I don't know am honestly asking as I wasn't old enough to know about that time period.


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      • ojandpizza
        Hall Of Fame
        • Apr 2011
        • 29807

        #1518
        Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

        Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
        Damn, a year ago Mozgov was just the kind of big man the Cavs needed.

        1 year later, he's nothing worthy of even garbage time minutes. Life comes at you fast.


        He hasn't been the same since his injury, idk if it's mental or what but to start this season he was playing pretty poorly. Idk his numbers, but his aggressive nature had pretty much vanished.

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        • Hockeynut99
          MVP
          • Jan 2013
          • 1328

          #1519
          Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

          Originally posted by redsox4evur
          He played during Jordan's era. And when Jordan was gone for that period of time was he better than Hakeem? I don't know am honestly asking as I wasn't old enough to know about that time period.


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          He was beast! And was consider one of the best power foward ever.

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          • The 24th Letter
            ERA
            • Oct 2007
            • 39373

            #1520
            Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

            Moz is still a good player, and will probably start for someone next year...he didn't start well this year with the injury but I think the Cavs just never looked back after going on their RS run

            Like said I'd love him on the Spurs..

            I'm pretty sure he has some type of minute restriction though, even when healthy

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            • wco81
              Banned
              • Jul 2002
              • 3305

              #1521
              Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

              If his contract was up last year, wonder which one the Cavs would have extended, TT or Mozgov.

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              • The15thunter
                MVP
                • Mar 2003
                • 1639

                #1522
                Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                Originally posted by Hockeynut99
                He was beast! And was consider one of the best power foward ever.
                all true, but was never considered the best player in any given year (including the mvp season).
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                • cima
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 13478

                  #1523
                  Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                  Originally posted by The15thunter
                  all true, but was never considered the best player in any given year (including the mvp season).
                  Pretty sure he was considered the best PF ever until Duncan came a long

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                  • redsox4evur
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 18169

                    #1524
                    Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                    Originally posted by cima
                    Pretty sure he was considered the best PF ever until Duncan came a long

                    Right...but was he better than Jordan? Hell no. Was he better than Hakeem? Like K said I never saw Hakeem play so I can't answer that. That's the point that was brought up. Not if he was the best player at his position. It was is the best player in a certain year. Like Lebron has been since at least '06/'07. Malone was never THE best player in the league.


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                    • cima
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 13478

                      #1525
                      Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                      Originally posted by redsox4evur
                      Right...but was he better than Jordan? Hell no. Was he better than Hakeem? Like K said I never saw Hakeem play so I can't answer that. That's the point that was brought up. Not if he was the best player at his position. It was is the best player in a certain year. Like Lebron has been since at least '06/'07. Malone was never THE best player in the league.


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                      No but Malone played in a stacked HOFer era and was the best PF EVER until Duncan came a long. You don't dismiss the #1 player at a position ever like it's nothing. Other than MJ and Hakeem, there's pretty much no one in the 90s you could make an argument for being better than Malone.

                      I missed the original context of Malone even being brought up though, so I'm not really sure what's really even being argued. Was just saying Malone was the GOAT PF until Duncan arrived and that accounts for something.

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                      • redsox4evur
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jul 2013
                        • 18169

                        #1526
                        Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                        Originally posted by cima
                        No but Malone played in a stacked HOFer era and was the best PF EVER until Duncan came a long. You don't dismiss the #1 player at a position ever like it's nothing. Other than MJ and Hakeem, there's pretty much no one in the 90s you could make an argument for being better than Malone.



                        I missed the original context of Malone even being brought up though, so I'm not really sure what's really even being argued. Was just saying Malone was the GOAT PF until Duncan arrived and that accounts for something.

                        Wwharton said that everybody in Jordan's prime had a similar situation. And he could be the reason that guys like Barkley, Malone, etc. never won a championship. James already has 2 rings so I don't see this being that dramatic.

                        Then Scofield responded saying none of these players being in Lebron's class which is true. They never had the claim being the best in the game. The narrative before last year was that the King coming home and bring his newfound success with him. It appears to be a pipe dream. Blah blah blah.


                        But Malone being the best at his position doesn't account for much in this comparison. It's about being the best in the NBA during his time. Which we agreed isn't true. It was Jordan and Hakeem.


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                        • CMH
                          Making you famous
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 26203

                          #1527
                          Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                          Charles Barkley?

                          An argument can definitely be made even if at the end the result was still Malone.
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                          • Scofield
                            Pro
                            • May 2014
                            • 523

                            #1528
                            Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                            Originally posted by redsox4evur
                            Right...but was he better than Jordan? Hell no. Was he better than Hakeem? Like K said I never saw Hakeem play so I can't answer that. That's the point that was brought up. Not if he was the best player at his position. It was is the best player in a certain year. Like Lebron has been since at least '06/'07. Malone was never THE best player in the league.


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                            I definitely wouldn't say he was better than The Dream. In general, my only point was that we haven't seen a player in LeBron's class wind up in the predicament he's currently in. Karl Malone is not in that class.

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                            • Scofield
                              Pro
                              • May 2014
                              • 523

                              #1529
                              Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                              Originally posted by CMH
                              Charles Barkley?

                              An argument can definitely be made even if at the end the result was still Malone.
                              I think Malone's edge defensively probably puts him ahead of Barkley.

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                              • dsallupinyaarea
                                Rookie
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 2764

                                #1530
                                Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                                Tim Duncan was/is a C.


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