The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

[ojandpizza]

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Draymond is the backbone of that team imo. He's their most important player.

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Depending on who they're playing I'll agree.

But night in and night out the attention Steph draws to free up a lot of those plays that Draymond makes deem him just as valuable as the playmaker himself. And when he's also doing that while dropping 30 himself it's tough to say he's not the most important piece.

[ballislife2001]

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Depending on who they're playing I'll agree.

But night in and night out the attention Steph draws to free up a lot of those plays that Draymond makes deem him just as valuable as the playmaker himself. And when he's also doing that while dropping 30 himself it's tough to say he's not the most important piece.

No doubt he's the best, but Draymond is a 2 way player. Steph isn't. And Draymond sets the tone for that team. He brings intensity that Steph can't. If Draymond were to miss the rest of the series I think the Cavs would take it.

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[DieHardYankee26]

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I think the problem is obvious. Klay is out there by himself, he needs more help.

[ojandpizza]

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What's the word on Bogut?


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[dsallupinyaarea]

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What's the word on Bogut?


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Windhorst reported that he's out for the series.


EDIT: Maybe not reported but very strongly hinted at it.

[Boltman]

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Windhorst reported that he's out for the series.


EDIT: Maybe not reported but very strongly hinted at it.

I think they can do just fine in these final two games without him.

Their two best interior defenders are him & Draymond right?

They also account for a lot of those hard screens that free up the Splash Bros.

Draymond will just have to play a few more minutes at C. Or hopefully whoever gets more burn with Bogut out steps up.

I really hope it goes 7 games.

[areobee401]

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The loss of Bogut could possibly hurt Green defensively. Bogut acts as sort of a saftey net allowing Green to be more aggressive. Without him on the floor that opens up the paint a little. I'm not saying it's the death of GSW, but the loss should not be taken lightly.

[dsallupinyaarea]

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Bogut is also really good at passing into tight windows from 15-18 ft. If Ezeli isn't dunking, he treats the ball like dynamite. He'll be missed but I think the Warriors are still heavy favorites.

[cima]

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[inkcil]

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I don't know what Steph Curry problem is, but he needs to get his head in the game. Stop taking 2-0 and 3-1 leads for granted. If he had only matched the intensity of Iggy and Klay in the first half then the game would have played out differently. Play like a MVP in the Finals for goodness sake. If the shot not dropping, do other things.

[TMagic]

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Was checking out that Shelly Smith report talking about the Warriors looking shell-shocked in the locker room after the game.

They legit thought this was a wrap last night even without the mouth breather.

I'm thinking this is going to game 7, then anything can happen. Even 'flukes' lol.

I used the term "fluke" because last nights game was a complete anomaly.

LeBron has not hit jumpers like that since his Miami days.

And Kyrie just played out of his mind, hitting some of the most difficult shots I've seen! Especially for his height. The Dubs defended him just about as good as you can hope. Can't be mad at that.

There were only a few plays where the Warriors fell asleep defensively. But for the most part, Kyrie and LeBron were defended damn well.

I honestly think the way those two played and won last night will wind up biting them in the ***. If they come in with the same game plan (if you can even call it that), they will lose, as that is simply not sustainable.

[jeebs9]

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The loss of Bogut could possibly hurt Green defensively. Bogut acts as sort of a saftey net allowing Green to be more aggressive. Without him on the floor that opens up the paint a little. I'm not saying it's the death of GSW, but the loss should not be taken lightly.

Bogut is also really good at passing into tight windows from 15-18 ft. If Ezeli isn't dunking, he treats the ball like dynamite. He'll be missed but I think the Warriors are still heavy favorites.

This was exactly what I said after he got hurt last night. On the very first pick and roll with Eze. He fumbled the pass and made a late read to Barnes who also fumbled a bad pass at his knees. Green should fix those things because he makes quick reads and decisions on those 3 on 2 situations. But I totally agree Bogut not playing shouldn't be taken lightly.

I'd love to have a game 7. I don't think it's possible though. They will be better on defense. And Green should up some thing on the offensive side of things. One of things not mentioned about Green absence is ball handling. Curry (and Thompson) don't get much a of a chance to run around unless Iggy is in the game.

But these guys.....
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[jeebs9]

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I used the term "fluke" because last nights game was a complete anomaly.

LeBron has not hit jumpers like that since his Miami days.

And Kyrie just played out of his mind, hitting some of the most difficult shots I've seen! Especially for his height. The Dubs defended him just about as good as you can hope. Can't be mad at that.

There were only a few plays where the Warriors fell asleep defensively. But for the most part, Kyrie and LeBron were defended damn well.

I honestly think the way those two played and won last night will wind up biting them in the ***. If they come in with the same game plan (if you can even call it that), they will lose, as that is simply not sustainable.

Once that jumper starts falling... falling... It's either you let him dot your eyes out or play up and he'll drive by you.

The times the Warriors fell asleep were those stupid secondary break 3's they gave up to Kyrie. I expect the Kyrie to score again. He just has the match up at this point. They might have to start doubling him to get the ball out of his hands (I'd only do that if he is still hot). At this point they don't have any answer for him off the dribble. Especially in the pick and roll game. Bogut came high after halftime trying to either hedge or trap him. But Kyrie is just too quick and fast for Bogut to try to contain.

This guy played well last night.
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[The 24th Letter]

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Klay got the yukmouf? Lol

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[redsrule]

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Regarding Curry, it's no excuse but it wouldn't surprise me if he was hurt pretty badly. He's been subpar the whole playoffs outside of a few stretches.

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