2017 Offseason Thread

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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What do people think are the chances of the Bucks making a big signing in FA? If Monroe opts out and they trade one of Henson or Teletovic they would have space for a max FA. I personally think they could go after a PG like Hill or Lowry, maybe even try and sign Ibaka?

I'd be shocked if they carve out a max slot. I think it'll be a quiet free agency period for them.

If they do carve out that much space by some miracle, I think they'd likely target someone like Jrue Holiday before Hill or Lowry due to age. Don't really see anyone else that makes much sense for the Bucks that you would expect to make $20+ million.

[DieHardYankee26]

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I think that goes back to what we were saying previously though. Yeah Melo said the business aspect, but he's looking like he's ready to accept a trade out of New York right now depending on who he gets to play with. That same problem of leaving his business interests is going to be there. How's he gonna do his business stuff in another city now? The same way he would have done it then. Through his partners and in the offseason when he goes back to New York or LA where he lives during the summer. Do guys think about the off court opportunities? Of course, is that really the huge impact of him deciding between the 75 million dollars he would have gotten from the Bulls and the 124 million he ended up with from the Knicks? Saying the business stuff is a nice after the fact sound bite, but I think we all know he wasn't turning down 124 million dollars, the further removed we get from it, I ain't even mad at him any more about it lol


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You think the business stuff is a nice sound bite, but believe that he only wanted to come to NY because it was his hometown?

The only trade we know of that's been discussed is to the Clippers and that's because he has a NTC and can reject any place he doesn't want to go. So if anything that adds more to the idea that location is important.

[King_B_Mack]

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Extremely reluctantly though. After 4 straight years of missing the playoffs, and after Phil has been criticizing him and now straight up saying he hopes he waives his NTC, Melo is maybe willing to leave to go to a limited amount of teams.



I don't think thats a great example of him not caring about the market that he's willing to leave under those circumstances, most people think he should have left awhile ago.

No I get the circumstances of why he'd be leaving now, but he's still under contract and doesn't have to go anywhere if he doesn't want to. He's still got the same business interests that he had then, so whether Phil is being a douche or not if you're telling me his business interest was so impactful that it was the difference that kept him from somewhere else that he really wanted to be, then it should be the difference between him accepting a trade out of New York now.

You think the business stuff is a nice sound bite, but believe that he only wanted to come to NY because it was his hometown?

The only trade we know of that's been discussed is to the Clippers and that's because he has a NTC and can reject any place he doesn't want to go. So if anything that adds more to the idea that location is important.

No I think the business stuff he talked about in the article 24th posted is a nice sound bite, because in that he spoke of his business interest being what kept him in New York, which is cool cause I don't expect him to say that 124 million dollars was the difference. Which is why I said, knowing what we know now, if Phil wasn't so hell bent on keeping him to the point that he wouldn't do a sign-and-trade with the Bulls making the money he could have gotten equal, do we really think Melo couldn't tend to his business pursuits in New York while playing in Chicago?



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[DieHardYankee26]

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I definitely think he could've tended to some business while he was in Chicago, but I don't know the level of involvement he wants. Teleconferences are fine but it's another to have the guy who owns the company sitting courtside. Reading the Times article on the stuff KD is involved in, he absolutely could not have done what he is doing now from OKC. The level of access he has just wouldn't have been available to him without forming the personal connections that come with being right next to the money. I'm sure Blake could act from OKC, but I don't think he could get the same level of roles as he does in LA. So from that, I do think it's a big deal for a guy who says "I don't just want to make some investments, I want to BE an investment."

[wco81]

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So a timely article on this subject, from ESPN about KD willing to sign a deal which would allow the Warriors to keep Iggy and Livingston.

It lists some business ties that KD has established already in the Bay Area:

While sources stressed that Durant has not yet decided on how to structure his next contract, it is believed he's willing to take less than the maximum he's eligible for this summer in order to keep the Warriors core together and give them the best chance of contending for years to come.

Durant has said on multiple occasions that he intends to stay with the Warriors for many years, and he has put roots down in the Bay Area both personally and professionally. Durant and his business partner Rich Kleiman have set up their business, the Durant Company, in the Bay Area. He has forged partnerships with California-based companies such as YouTube, Acorns and Postmates. In a New York Times profile this spring, Durant revealed that he is in business with Silicon Valley "super angel" investor Ronald Conway and consulting with Laurene Powell Jobs, the widow of Apple founder Steve Jobs.

According to the Times story, Durant and Kleiman watched the election results at the home of Eddy Cue, Apple's senior vice president for internet software and services, along with Tim Cook, Apple chief executive, and Pharrell Williams.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19509826/kevin-durant-willing-take-less-max-keep-golden-state-warriors-core-intact

[ProfessaPackMan]

2017 Offseason Thread

In regards to Blake and the type of roles he's doing, what else is he doing outside of the Funny or Die segments and a few appearances at Comedy Clubs in the offseason?

[areobee401]

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The New York Knicks' front office has spoken to the Trail Blazers in recent days about a trade for one of Portland's three first-round picks, sources confirmed to ESPN on Thursday.

Portland owns the 15th, 20th and 26th overall picks in the current draft.

New York has the No. 8 overall pick, and members of the organization have been exploring the possibility of acquiring an additional pick later in the first round, per sources.

The trade discussions between the Knicks and Blazers were first reported by the Sporting News.

New York has hosted workouts for several players who might fall into the mid-to-late first round, including North Carolina forward Justin Jackson and big man Tony Bradley, per sources. The Knicks have also worked out players pegged in some mock drafts as late first-round or early second-round picks, including Kentucky's Bam Adebayo and Colorado's Derrick White, sources said.

Talks between New York and Portland are believed to be in the early stages, but one scenario discussed involved an additional player from Portland being sent in a trade, according to sources.

It is unclear which players were offered by Portland. It is also unclear whom the Knicks would offer Portland in a potential trade.

In the past, team president Phil Jackson has refused to offer any of the Knicks' future first-round picks in trade talks, per sources. Unless Portland offers one of its premier players or multiple first-round picks, that approach will likely continue during the Knicks' talks with the Blazers.

The Knicks hope to find a player with the No. 8 pick who can help them build a young core around big men Kristaps Porzingis and Willy Hernangomez.

Members of the organization see several players as potential options for the No. 8 pick, including French prospect Frank Ntilikina, Kentucky guard Malik Monk and North Carolina State guard Dennis Smith Jr., sources told ESPN.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19513139/new-york-knicks-discuss-trade-portland-trail-blazers-first-round-pick

[ehh]

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Trade anyone/anything besides KP, Willy and #8. I'm fine with taking on a bad contract right now, we're years away.

[wco81]

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Portland has a lot of bad contracts to get rid of.

[The 24th Letter]

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I definitely think he could've tended to some business while he was in Chicago, but I don't know the level of involvement he wants. Teleconferences are fine but it's another to have the guy who owns the company sitting courtside. Reading the Times article on the stuff KD is involved in, he absolutely could not have done what he is doing now from OKC. The level of access he has just wouldn't have been available to him without forming the personal connections that come with being right next to the money. I'm sure Blake could act from OKC, but I don't think he could get the same level of roles as he does in LA. So from that, I do think it's a big deal for a guy who says "I don't just want to make some investments, I want to BE an investment."

Re: King as well

He wants to be very involved....I dont think we can disregard the words from thr horses mouth...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/seamuskirst/2016/05/23/carmelo-anthony-and-his-business-team-talk-making-deals-off-the-court/amp/

Article expands upon what he said at the business conference and gives some specifics. I think the disconnect is that yes, in any city and state Melos agent can pick up and give the OK on an endorsement...but rubbing shoulders with those investors the article mentions amd really setting your roots is a different story. These are guys and companies that dont necessarily need Melo or his endorsement..

Weve gone far off from the original discussion though, lol. I think me and King can both agree that location isnt going to be the #1 factor in a team change for MOST cases...(especially your top tier players- it will be interesting to see if PG really does the LA thing though) but I fully agree with Wojs point for a player in a situation like CP3's....I think earnings and potential earnings and growth is a huge factor in CP3s decision- we can agree to disagree there.

[DieHardYankee26]

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In regards to Blake and the type of roles he's doing, what else is he doing outside of the Funny or Die segments and a few appearances at Comedy Clubs in the offseason?

He had an appearance on Broad City, he's doing something in a movie coming out later this year. Also, a part of his role with Funny or Die is apparently as an intern, learning to shoot and direct and stuff like that. I wouldn't doubt that they're being based in LA made that easier.

[Vni]

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@Schultz_Report

Per a source, #Lakers are not just "open-minded" to trading Jordan Clarkson, as has been reported, but are actively seeking out offers.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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He had an appearance on Broad City, he's doing something in a movie coming out later this year. Also, a part of his role with Funny or Die is apparently as an intern, learning to shoot and direct and stuff like that. I wouldn't doubt that they're being based in LA made that easier.

Right but I would imagine for something like learning how to shoot/direct is something that would take place once his season is done, due to the time commitment it would required, same with having spot roles in movies. And if that's the case, then he can still do that while working in a different city from November-April.

But seeing how guys like KD, Lebron, Melo, etc have managed it all these years by having offseason homes in LA and live/lived out there for the summer while doing their side ventures, it wouldn't be an issue for Blake. Of course, it's easy for me to say that because I'm not the one doing it, lol.

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@Schultz_Report

Per a source, #Lakers are not just "open-minded" to trading Jordan Clarkson, as has been reported, but are actively seeking out offers.

Figured that. They soured on him by the end of the season.

[Vni]

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Figured that. They soured on him by the end of the season.

Ennis, Nwaba and likely soon to be Ball made him very expendable. I wonder what they could get for him. Could they land a first round pick ? What do you mean by they soured him ? Can you say it differently ?