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  • turty11
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    • Apr 2013
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    #826
    Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

    Wouldnt mind replacing baynes with oquinn if baynes leaves. Could also be an option to see him in washington if they move gortat.


    As far as dedmon goes, I dont think the money is out there for him and maybe he likes atlanta so makes sense to opt in for 7 mil.
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    • RedSceptile
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      • Jun 2011
      • 3680

      #827
      Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

      Man, the Kings making a lolwut pick would literally be the most Kings thing. Someone needs to save that organization from itself, I really hope this is just some elaborate smokescreen plan they have going right now.

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      • King_B_Mack
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        • Jan 2009
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        #828
        Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

        Georgiafan what do you think?

        Yahoo: Atlanta has explored moving back in the draft, with an eye on OU’s Trae Young, league sources have told yahoo sports. Hawks have fielded numerous calls for the No. 3 pick.


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        • turty11
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          #829
          Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

          Kings legit about to take lonnie walker at 2 just because they cant decide between the top players.
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          • georgiafan
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            • Jul 2002
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            #830
            Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

            Originally posted by King_B_Mack
            Georgiafan what do you think?

            Yahoo: Atlanta has explored moving back in the draft, with an eye on OU’s Trae Young, league sources have told yahoo sports. Hawks have fielded numerous calls for the No. 3 pick.


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            The hawks taking Young is pretty much the sole reason I have lost sleep the last few weeks. Their is no chance I am trading 3 if Doncic is on the board unless its just a amazing deal. The new coach is a defense guy so I don't why you spend a pick on a guy whose defense is going to be so bad he may not be able to start on a playoff team. I can talk myself into anyone just not Young we already have a 6'1 PG who cant play defense. Hopefully atleast a bidding war will start if the reports are true.

            This would likely mean we give Schroder who scored near 20 points a game at 24. I don't see how you have Schorder and young on the same roster since neither can play D

            They are also rumors hawks are going to trade up using 19 +30 to the late lottery with a team like the wizards.

            The last few hours with Dedman opting in so that's 7 less million in cap space and now this have made me a nervous wreck because I don't trust the new GM. Last year he his big trade got us a worse player, worse contract and worse draft pick that's hard to do. He did draft Collins so that was a plus.
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            • King_B_Mack
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              #831
              Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

              Originally posted by georgiafan
              The hawks taking Young is pretty much the sole reason I have lost sleep the last few weeks. Their is no chance I am trading 3 if Doncic is on the board unless its just a amazing deal. The new coach is a defense guy so I don't why you spend a pick on a guy whose defense is going to be so bad he may not be able to start on a playoff team. I can talk myself into anyone just not Young we already have a 6'1 PG who cant play defense. Hopefully atleast a bidding war will start if the reports are true.



              This would likely mean we give Schroder who scored near 20 points a game at 24. I don't see how you have Schorder and young on the same roster since neither can play D



              They are also rumors hawks are going to trade up using 19 +30 to the late lottery with a team like the wizards.



              The last few hours with Dedman opting in so that's 7 less million in cap space and now this have made me a nervous wreck because I don't trust the new GM. Last year he his big trade got us a worse player, worse contract and worse draft pick that's hard to do. He did draft Collins so that was a plus.


              I saw a report either yesterday or today that the Bulls were trying to trade up into the top 3. What could you see getting that deal done if it indeed was with the Hawks?


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              • georgiafan
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                #832
                Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

                Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                I saw a report either yesterday or today that the Bulls were trying to trade up into the top 3. What could you see getting that deal done if it indeed was with the Hawks?


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                I don’t see any players the bulls can offer that would be a big piece of the deal outside of maybe Dunn.

                If the bulls want to take on a bad contact like bazmore or plumlee and Give us a shorter one like Lopez. I don’t see the hawks taking on all the years of felcio. The bulls would have to give up the pelicans this year and then a future 1st as well.

                The hawks cap room is down to 22 million after dedmon opted in so I assume since he opts in right before the draft something is up with him

                I guess something along the lines of this ( I don’t see it happening)

                3, bazemore

                7, 22, Lopez and like top 5 protected future 1
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                • ehh
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                  • Mar 2003
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                  #833
                  Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

                  Originally posted by georgiafan
                  I guess something along the lines of this ( I don’t see it happening)

                  3, bazemore

                  7, 22, Lopez and like top 5 protected future 1
                  Yeah, if I'm ATL and Doncic is on the board there's no way I'm giving him up for that package from CHI.
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                  • turty11
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                    #834
                    Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

                    Lakers traded into the second round for pick 39 from philly.


                    A bulls-hawks pick swap doesnt make sense unless chicago probably takes bazemore and a lavine sign and trade to atl


                    Not much for chicago to offer anyone trade wise really except for lavine/dunn/picks
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                    • jfsolo
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                      • May 2003
                      • 12965

                      #835
                      Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

                      Originally posted by georgiafan
                      Crap dedman accepts his player option of 7 million


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                      That is surprising, I thought for sure he would opt out. I guess he's worried about so many teams being up against the cap. I thought that he would be a nice plan C option for the Lakers.
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                      • georgiafan
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                        • Jul 2002
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                        #836
                        Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

                        Originally posted by ehh
                        Yeah, if I'm ATL and Doncic is on the board there's no way I'm giving him up for that package from CHI.
                        The 7th pick isn’t a good spot on a trade back for the hawks as all the 6 top tier guys are off the bulls don’t have any real assets. I’ve heard some rumblings the magic might include Isaac if they trade up so that and being 1 pick higher beats a bulls offer.

                        With all these said just take one of doncic, Bagley, bamba and Jackson and don’t be cute
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                        • turty11
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                          #837
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                          So if atlanta takes young..how much longer is schroeder on the roster? Could see them using him to try to get back up into the lotto instead of picking 19+30
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                          • CMH
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                            • Oct 2002
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                            #838
                            Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

                            Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                            Georgiafan what do you think?

                            Yahoo: Atlanta has explored moving back in the draft, with an eye on OU’s Trae Young, league sources have told yahoo sports. Hawks have fielded numerous calls for the No. 3 pick.


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                            Does Atlanta want THJ back? He did well there.

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                            • georgiafan
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                              #839
                              Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

                              Originally posted by CMH
                              Does Atlanta want THJ back? He did well there.

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                              Nah I’m good without the high price tag of THJ
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                              • ojandpizza
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                                #840
                                2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

                                Call me crazy, but I don’t COMPLETELY disagree with the Hawks strategy here. While I think they should just take Bagley/Doncic whichever is available I think the guys outside of that are all players that aren’t necessarily sure things. A lot of reports coming out of how good Jackson could be, how good Bamba could be, etc.. while that may be true the fact still stands that as of now we haven’t saw any of those guys be great yet. It’s not like they’re proven commodities.

                                Trae Young is probably the most hit or miss guy in the class.. but if he’s hit, and he’s taken out of the top 5 or so, we’ll be looking back on this thinking how did so many morons pass on the guy who was the best scorer, shooter, and passer, in college basketball over really the past 5 years or so. Understandably if he’s miss it’s likely so bad that it’s a Jimmer situation where he can’t even make the league. But if he’s hit, it’s a Curry situation. Where everyone who passed on him because he was small and defense was a question just looks stupid.

                                If the Hawks are confident in him I say get a good player and move back. You get two pieces instead of one, maybe swing Schroeder for another lottery or mid first round pick, and the rebuilding is in full swing. I wouldn’t move back for anything less than a decent young piece and pick swap though. In the Bulls hypothetical, no way I trade a top 3 pick and not take back LaVine if I’m the Hawks.


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