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  • cima
    Hall Of Fame
    • Sep 2004
    • 13478

    #601
    Re: NBA Draft 2019

    No one is going to feel sorry for Cavs fans after the run they've had and all the chances at top picks they had too. Bulls fans, Suns fans, Hawks fans, yeah they'll all get some sympathy and rightfully so.

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    • DieHardYankee26
      BING BONG
      • Feb 2008
      • 10178

      #602
      Re: NBA Draft 2019

      Originally posted by georgiafan
      Despite your thoughts on him this you got to watch

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      This dude talking about the Knicks need a box office draw and he would've been OK if the Lakers got the top pick smh. Ima have to start putting his clips through some kind of voice modulator, I refuse to listen to these words with that accent like he represents us.
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      • OSUFan_88
        Outback Jesus
        • Jul 2004
        • 25642

        #603
        Re: NBA Draft 2019

        Originally posted by cima
        No one is going to feel sorry for Cavs fans after the run they've had and all the chances at top picks they had too. Bulls fans, Suns fans, Hawks fans, yeah they'll all get some sympathy and rightfully so.

        No one is asking for sympathy. The Cavs have a better organization than the Bulls, Suns, and Hawks. This is what the debate is all about. Talking about deserving or whatever BS we want to talk about, is all stupid anyway.
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        • cima
          Hall Of Fame
          • Sep 2004
          • 13478

          #604
          Re: NBA Draft 2019

          Originally posted by OSUFan_88
          No one is asking for sympathy. The Cavs have a better organization than the Bulls, Suns, and Hawks. This is what the debate is all about. Talking about deserving or whatever BS we want to talk about, is all stupid anyway.
          Depends how you define better. You definitely have an owner who's actually wanting to win, which is really nice to have. FO made a lot of questionable decisions over the years though and now that's part of what you have to deal with now. But hey, you got a ring so I'd say it was all worth it. Better than what we've had going on in Phoenix since Colangelo left.

          The Bulls FO/ownership is a well documented mess. I'm not sure what ATL's deal is, never really paid attention. They were always good but never great. The JJ era was good and they did have the best EC record in 2015 but it never translated to anything. Their future looks bright at least, can't say the same about PHX or CHI at the moment.

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          • OSUFan_88
            Outback Jesus
            • Jul 2004
            • 25642

            #605
            Re: NBA Draft 2019

            Originally posted by cima
            Depends how you define better. You definitely have an owner who's actually wanting to win, which is really nice to have. FO made a lot of questionable decisions over the years though and now that's part of what you have to deal with now.
            Such as?

            Obviously the Kyrie trade was a debacle, but there were extenuating circumstances that they had to trade Kyrie. And truthfully, in the end, Sexton is a pretty good player, so they could scout that one out well.

            Other than that, they've been pretty good identifying talent in the draft. Sexton, Cedi in the 2nd round (which was recommended by current GM Altman) and I thought the moves Altman made at the deadline was tremendous this year.
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            • IBMA
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              • Jul 2018
              • 331

              #606
              Re: NBA Draft 2019

              I can assure u the cavs r not purposefully being bad. Did everyone forget we r from Cleveland which in no way compares to the amount of money as teams in la or ny. The reason we can’t build a team and have to pray for ping pong balls is bc we don’t have the money to sign guys. Then less people want to come here bc nobody else is here
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              • Junior Moe
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                • Jul 2009
                • 3869

                #607
                Re: NBA Draft 2019

                I didn't mean to stir up the Cavs hornets nest, just giving my opinion. The Kevin Love trade does count, but again, that was LeBron. If not for LeBron forcing things Cleveland has a core of Kyrie(4), Dion Waiters(4), Andrew Wiggins(1), Tristan(4)/Anthony Bennett(1). That's a playoff team, I guess. Maybe they add a vet or something. The city has a title and that more than I can say for my sorry Hawks. LeBron did sabotage the team by not committing when they could have traded for Paul George. LeBron probably could have fostered a better relationship with Kyrie. Why trade Kyrie though without a commitment from LeBron? I do think Dan Gilbert did all he could this last time and the city has a title now, so it's all good. My point still stands that Cleveland has had more than enough good fortune in the lottery already.

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                • CaVsFaN2273
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2018
                  • 1052

                  #608
                  Re: NBA Draft 2019

                  I'm already so sick of commentators and casual fans talking about they should've rigged the lottery for the Knicks or Lakers or Zion should just refuse to play for NO or go back to Duke man. It's f***ing ridiculous...

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                  • georgiafan
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 11097

                    #609
                    Re: NBA Draft 2019

                    Originally posted by CaVsFaN2273
                    I'm already so sick of commentators and casual fans talking about they should've rigged the lottery for the Knicks or Lakers or Zion should just refuse to play for NO or go back to Duke man. It's f***ing ridiculous...
                    If I am Zion I tell NO I am going back Duke unless the 1st pick is traded to a set amount of teams. Its far from the 1st time that has happened and I'm not going to waist 7 years playing for the worst possible situation for him both on and off the court.
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                    • Junior Moe
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                      • Jul 2009
                      • 3869

                      #610
                      Re: NBA Draft 2019

                      Originally posted by georgiafan
                      If I am Zion I tell NO I am going back Duke unless the 1st pick is traded to a set amount of teams. Its far from the 1st time that has happened and I'm not going to waist 7 years playing for the worst possible situation for him both on and off the court.
                      There is way too much money at stake for that. Zion has a huge shoe deal coming that won't work for college. What's so bad about New Orleans? AD grew to his full potential there. I know it isn't a glamour destination, but still. I think it could be good for Zion to go to a place where there won't be massive expectations on him and he can grow. I imagine New Orleans has learned how precious time is for these great players and you have to win to keep them.

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                      • CaVsFaN2273
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2018
                        • 1052

                        #611
                        Re: NBA Draft 2019

                        Originally posted by Junior Moe
                        There is way too much money at stake for that. Zion has a huge shoe deal coming that won't work for college. What's so bad about New Orleans? AD grew to his full potential there. I know it isn't a glamour destination, but still. I think it could be good for Zion to go to a place where there won't be massive expectations on him and he can grow. I imagine New Orleans has learned how precious time is for these great players and you have to win to keep them.

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                        Also it's been pointed out multiple times that they are taking the steps to improve as an organization by hiring Griffin, by hiring the Suns trainer, etc. This isn't going to be the same front office that was there with AD. They're likely going to be much smarter this time around.

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                        • jeremym480
                          Speak it into existence
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 18198

                          #612
                          Re: NBA Draft 2019

                          Originally posted by BleacherBum2310
                          I don't think a Rookie even as good as Zion is gonna convince AD to stay we'll see. the team this hurts the most is probably the Knicks because they really don't have a path to an AD trade now. Because Knox and the 3rd pick isn't going to cut it.

                          best to keep the hopes on the KD/Kyrie pairing in FA.

                          I'm just glad the Grizzlies pick for Boston is rolling over to next year. That's huge.

                          Zion is not going to move the needle for AD. If anything he's going to make returning to NOLA less appealing for AD because he will no longer be the face of the franchise. AD would play second fiddle to a Lebron or Kyrie, but to a rookie? No way.


                          The Memphis pick no conveying was by far the best news of the night for Boston. If all of the future draft picks that are in play for AD that one to be the most potential.

                          Originally posted by georgiafan
                          If I am Zion I tell NO I am going back Duke unless the 1st pick is traded to a set amount of teams. Its far from the 1st time that has happened and I'm not going to waist 7 years playing for the worst possible situation for him both on and off the court.

                          Unless there's something new that I don't know about, then drafted players can't just return to school.
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                          • DieHardYankee26
                            BING BONG
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 10178

                            #613
                            Re: NBA Draft 2019

                            He has until the end of the month to withdraw from the draft and can go back.
                            Originally posted by G Perico
                            If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                            I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                            In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                            The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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                            • georgiafan
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 11097

                              #614
                              Re: NBA Draft 2019

                              AD may have reached his full potential personally in NO, but he made the playoffs what 1 time in 7 years. AD has been irrelevant his entire career playing in a football city that's a new franchise. AD isn't staying and whatever package they get for him isn't going to help them win anything of important for a few years in the West. You know they are going overpay some FA in the next few years because they will be in win now mode.


                              Originally posted by Junior Moe
                              There is way too much money at stake for that. Zion has a huge shoe deal coming that won't work for college. What's so bad about New Orleans? AD grew to his full potential there. I know it isn't a glamour destination, but still. I think it could be good for Zion to go to a place where there won't be massive expectations on him and he can grow. I imagine New Orleans has learned how precious time is for these great players and you have to win to keep them.

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                              • jeremym480
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                                • Oct 2008
                                • 18198

                                #615
                                Re: NBA Draft 2019

                                Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
                                He has until the end of the month to withdraw from the draft and can go back.

                                Oh yeah.. cause the draft hasn't happened yet.. Duh. *facepalm
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