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  • Smallville102001
    All Star
    • Mar 2015
    • 6542

    #556
    Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

    Originally posted by ojandpizza
    Was a joke


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    I known just saying I dont known what to expect. If lakers do get AD but where to give up BI, Ball, Kuzma I am not sure how much better they would be than right now. Yeah James and AD but they would have like nothing else left if they got rid of all 3 of those guys. I dont think you can give up all 3 of those guys un less you can like find a way to add someone else to go with AD and James or something. I am not sure what there salary cap would look like if that where to happen. I think they would still have enough for a another max contract but I am not sure.

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    • Smallville102001
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      • Mar 2015
      • 6542

      #557
      Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

      Originally posted by illwill10
      Brandom Ingram could benefit from a change of scenery. When LeBron's in town, there no development. It's championship or bust. Jist like with D'Lo, different environments with less expectations could allow him to flourish.

      Kuz provides more now which makes him bigger asset. What hurts BI is the KD comp. I like comps in draft but just to figure out what type of player he can be. But you can't just draft on potential and a elite player comp
      Well D'Lo was there before James so I am not sure if its Lebron being there that is hurting his development and he is still really young and I think lakers just gave up on D'Lo to fast 2 years for a guy who was only like 18-19 when he first came into the NBA is to enough time to really see what they are like. Even 3 years like with BI is not really enough time. Also Kuz seems to be improving from last year and that is with James on the team.

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      • illwill10
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2009
        • 19800

        #558
        Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

        Originally posted by Smallville102001
        Well D'Lo was there before James so I am not sure if its Lebron being there that is hurting his development and he is still really young and I think lakers just gave up on D'Lo to fast 2 years for a guy who was only like 18-19 when he first came into the NBA is to enough time to really see what they are like. Even 3 years like with BI is not really enough time. Also Kuz seems to be improving from last year and that is with James on the team.
        There is so much expectation to show results immediately. Some players it just takes time. It took Victor O until last year to really flourish. If BI is going to be successful, it may not happen for a few seasons. I'm not saying James being there hurts BI development. I think BI's style of play doesn't fit with Bron. BI isn't as aggressive or good off the ball

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        • Smallville102001
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          • Mar 2015
          • 6542

          #559
          Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

          Originally posted by illwill10
          There is so much expectation to show results immediately. Some players it just takes time. It took Victor O until last year to really flourish. If BI is going to be successful, it may not happen for a few seasons. I'm not saying James being there hurts BI development. I think BI's style of play doesn't fit with Bron. BI isn't as aggressive or good off the ball
          When you are picked high you are expected to be really good right away that is true but in the history of the nba I would say there have only been like 3-4 guys that where really good like all star or close to it good at 18-19 it just normally dosnt happen. Yeah that may be true about the styles but at the same time even in the time James has been out with the injury he has not really played all that much better with out him. Yeah he does need to be more aggressive and something I said before is he needs to be stronger. Like KD he is more skinning looking but KD can fight threw contact where BI can not. So often when there is contact on BI even just like a little bump he either ends up losing the ball or he losses his balance and shoots a hard off balance shoot. The more I watch him the more I notice he cant handle contact at all. Just being a little bit stronger I think would improve his game a lot.

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          • illwill10
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2009
            • 19800

            #560
            Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

            Originally posted by Smallville102001
            When you are picked high you are expected to be really good right away that is true but in the history of the nba I would say there have only been like 3-4 guys that where really good like all star or close to it good at 18-19 it just normally dosnt happen. Yeah that may be true about the styles but at the same time even in the time James has been out with the injury he has not really played all that much better with out him. Yeah he does need to be more aggressive and something I said before is he needs to be stronger. Like KD he is more skinning looking but KD can fight threw contact where BI can not. So often when there is contact on BI even just like a little bump he either ends up losing the ball or he losses his balance and shoots a hard off balance shoot. The more I watch him the more I notice he cant handle contact at all. Just being a little bit stronger I think would improve his game a lot.
            So many top players have a hard time adjusting from being the man in college/pre-NBA to being one of the guys in rotation. So it takes them a few years to truly figure out their game.
            Definitely would help. Needs to have the wiry strength so many skinny players being forced to add. Because now, just have to put a body on him and you can stop him. He really needs to focus on adding strength and playing with a chip on shoulder. I think Victor O playing a year with Westbrook really helped him. That type of aggression and passion is what makes him a star and I'm sure it rubbed off on VO.

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            • Smallville102001
              All Star
              • Mar 2015
              • 6542

              #561
              Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

              Originally posted by illwill10
              So many top players have a hard time adjusting from being the man in college/pre-NBA to being one of the guys in rotation. So it takes them a few years to truly figure out their game.
              Definitely would help. Needs to have the wiry strength so many skinny players being forced to add. Because now, just have to put a body on him and you can stop him. He really needs to focus on adding strength and playing with a chip on shoulder. I think Victor O playing a year with Westbrook really helped him. That type of aggression and passion is what makes him a star and I'm sure it rubbed off on VO.
              Yeah and if you go from like highschool to the nba or even like just 1 year in college and than into the nba the skill level and the size of players you are playing vs is a much bigger step up compared to if you play like 3-4 years in college and improve your skills and body. Yeah you make a good point about Victor and how him playing with Westbrook may have helped and he also improved his body and strength a lot. BI needs to get into the weight room a lot more.

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              • jeebs9
                Fear is the Unknown
                • Oct 2008
                • 47562

                #562
                Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                Originally posted by Smallville102001
                Well D'Lo was there before James so I am not sure if its Lebron being there that is hurting his development and he is still really young and I think lakers just gave up on D'Lo to fast 2 years for a guy who was only like 18-19 when he first came into the NBA is to enough time to really see what they are like. Even 3 years like with BI is not really enough time. Also Kuz seems to be improving from last year and that is with James on the team.
                That's why I always say the 5-6 year rule of like full minutes and rotation.

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                • TheFinalEvent97
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                  • Jul 2016
                  • 1519

                  #563
                  Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                  Originally posted by jeebs9
                  That's why I always say the 5-6 year rule of like full minutes and rotation.

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                  That's a pretty good rule, the only exception i can think of is Kyle Lowry.

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                  • Master Live 013
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 12327

                    #564
                    Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                    After agent Rich Paul of Klutch Sports told ESPN on Monday that he had informed the Pelicans that Davis wouldn't sign an extension this summer and wanted a trade, multiple league sources expect the agent and star to soon deliver word throughout the league that Davis' preferred destination is the Lakers and he'll become a rental player until 2020 with a trade anywhere else.

                    It would be an attempt to depress offers in the marketplace, a way to perhaps make the Lakers' trade package more appealing.
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                    • Smallville102001
                      All Star
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 6542

                      #565
                      Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                      So from what I under stand if lakers do trade and get AD depending on like who they give up and if they make any more trades they would have like 20 million left under the cap to try to make more moves in the offseason. So like not enough to get a max player maybe but enough to maybe add some good peaces. They would need more than AD and James to really compete and even more so if you give up like all the young guys has than you would have 2 great players but like nothing around them.

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                      • Vni
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 14833

                        #566
                        Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                        Originally posted by jeebs9
                        That's why I always say the 5-6 year rule of like full minutes and rotation.

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                        I agree but dlo was also traded for other reasons (mozgov and the Young incident)

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                        • Vni
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 14833

                          #567
                          Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                          Originally posted by illwill10
                          There is so much expectation to show results immediately. Some players it just takes time. It took Victor O until last year to really flourish. If BI is going to be successful, it may not happen for a few seasons. I'm not saying James being there hurts BI development. I think BI's style of play doesn't fit with Bron. BI isn't as aggressive or good off the ball
                          I think BI is more Odom than he is KD or any explsovie scorer. He wasnt born with the agility and talent like that. Hell be a solid starter for sure though. Better than batum.

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                          • illwill10
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 19800

                            #568
                            Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                            Originally posted by Vni
                            I think BI is more Odom than he is KD or any explsovie scorer. He wasnt born with the agility and talent like that. Hell be a solid starter for sure though. Better than batum.

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                            He got drafted high because of length and upside of what he could be.
                            I don't think he will ever be a 'star' level players(under Superstar). But he could be a solid starter as you said. He can be that 2nd or 3rd guy on a winning team if he finds out who he is as a NBA player. He lacks the athleticism and shooting to be a superstar. But if he adds more strength, commits to playing good defense because with that length he can similar impact as KD on defense, and plays with a chip on shoulder, he could be a winning player on a winning team

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                            • cima
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 13478

                              #569
                              Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                              Woj says Rich Paul/Davis expected to announce soon that Davis intends to sign with Lakers in 2020 (his preferred destination) and any other team he's traded to would be a 1 year rental.

                              Anthony Davis won't be traded before next Thursday's NBA trade deadline unless the Pelicans receive an overwhelming offer, sources say. The Lakers plan to make an aggressive push, according to sources.

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                              • Vni
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 14833

                                #570
                                Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                                Originally posted by illwill10
                                He got drafted high because of length and upside of what he could be.
                                I don't think he will ever be a 'star' level players(under Superstar). But he could be a solid starter as you said. He can be that 2nd or 3rd guy on a winning team if he finds out who he is as a NBA player. He lacks the athleticism and shooting to be a superstar. But if he adds more strength, commits to playing good defense because with that length he can similar impact as KD on defense, and plays with a chip on shoulder, he could be a winning player on a winning team
                                Lenght is maybe like 20pcent of what makes KD, KD. Thats why thoses labels on 18 years olds are ridiculous. Ingram isnt trash but he isnt a top 20 all time talent either.

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