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  • areobee401
    Hall Of Fame
    • Apr 2006
    • 16771

    #1561
    Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

    Would rather bring Terry back at a lower cap number.
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    • cima
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2004
      • 13478

      #1562
      Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

      Multiple reports out there linking D'Lo/Lakers potentially reuniting now, so I guess it's time to start paying attention to that.

      I suppose it's not the worst backup plan, especially considering his max is only $20 million, which I was previously unaware of. That will leave them with money over to sign another guy or two perhaps, despite ESPN apparently reporting that the Lakers are only going to have $19 million in cap space...wtf? I'm just curious as to where ESPN gets their info, because once again their stance has changed...after previously reporting it was $24 million...before not realizing they could still get $32 million by maneuvering around.


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      • cima
        Hall Of Fame
        • Sep 2004
        • 13478

        #1563
        Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

        Also as of right now the Nets are the betting favorites to sign both KD and Kyrie.


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        • Yeah...THAT Guy
          Once in a Lifetime Memory
          • Dec 2006
          • 17294

          #1564
          Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

          I'd rather see Boston go back to rebuilding again since it would be one less competitor for the Bucks, but I think Kemba would be a great signing personally.

          Boston is almost entirely composed of wings right now with a need at PG and C. I would much rather go cheap on a big man than a PG. Sign Kemba (assuming he chooses you), and then you can use exceptions to sign C's like Dewayne Dedmon, Robin Lopez, Thomas Bryant, Ed Davis, etc. and you'll be fine there IMO.

          I think Kemba would be a much better player to pursue than the Brogdon suggestion that I've seen floating around (and not just because I hope Milwaukee can keep Brogdon lol; Kemba's just a far better player and a good fit there IMO)
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          • jeremym480
            Speak it into existence
            • Oct 2008
            • 18198

            #1565
            Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

            Originally posted by cima
            Multiple reports out there linking D'Lo/Lakers potentially reuniting now, so I guess it's time to start paying attention to that.

            I suppose it's not the worst backup plan, especially considering his max is only $20 million, which I was previously unaware of. That will leave them with money over to sign another guy or two perhaps, despite ESPN apparently reporting that the Lakers are only going to have $19 million in cap space...wtf? I'm just curious as to where ESPN gets their info, because once again their stance has changed...after previously reporting it was $24 million...before not realizing they could still get $32 million by maneuvering around.

            D'Lo's max is $27.25M. It's in the bottom right hand corner of the chart you posted.
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            • cima
              Hall Of Fame
              • Sep 2004
              • 13478

              #1566
              Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

              Originally posted by jeremym480
              D'Lo's max is $27.25M. It's in the bottom right hand corner of the chart you posted.

              Huh. Wondering why the $20 mil number is floating around then? That's lame. I don't think I'd want him at $27 mil then...but Idk.

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              • ojandpizza
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                • Apr 2011
                • 29807

                #1567
                Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                Originally posted by cima
                Huh. Wondering why the $20 mil number is floating around then? That's lame. I don't think I'd want him at $27 mil then...but Idk.
                Reports have been they would offer him around 20 million. So your number wasn't necessarily wrong, it was just assuming they weren't giving him max money or were pulling numbers out of their *** and had no idea what they are talking about.

                Personally, I wouldn't offer him a max deal.. Though some teams probably will. I think you always have to be careful with a guy in a situation where he takes a lot of shots and scores some points on a team that is limited in their other options, and throwing them max money..

                Yeah he had a nice year, put up 20, but was taking 19 shots. He was the main scoring option on that team, but lots of non-max level guys will score like that on that shot volume.. Lou Williams for example makes 8 million.. That's how you wind up with all those stupid contracts like the one Andrew Wiggins has..

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                • nuckles2k2
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 1922

                  #1568
                  Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                  Mavs are doing a thing:

                  <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Restricted free agent Kristaps Porzingis and the Dallas Mavericks will meet when free agency opens on June 30 and the franchise plans to offer Porzingis a full five-year, $158 million maximum contract, league sources tell <a href="https://twitter.com/TheAthleticNBA?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheAthleticNB A</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/Stadium?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Stadium</a>.</p>&mdash; Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1143607395211497472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 25, 2019</a></blockquote></script>

                  I'm elated we moved him and got those picks if this is the ask.

                  Scott Perry is the low key Exec of the Year for dodging this albatross.

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                  • cima
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 13478

                    #1569
                    Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                    Man have you guys seen how ****ty the 2020 FA class is?


                    K. Lowry, TOR
                    S, Ibaka, TOR
                    D. Green, GSW
                    J. Brown, BOS
                    P. Millsap, DEN
                    D. Favors, UTA
                    A. Roberson, OKC
                    A. Drummond, DET, option
                    G. Hayward, BOS, option
                    D. DeRozan, SA, option


                    We need to milk the hell out of this offseason because next summer is going to be a huge ****ing snoozefest!


                    Knicks are supposedly fine rolling their cap space over to next year if they strike out this year...I think I'd almost rather overpay someone this year than spend max money on any of those guys.

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                    • Majingir
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 47643

                      #1570
                      Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                      Originally posted by cima
                      Man have you guys seen how ****ty the 2020 FA class is?


                      K. Lowry, TOR
                      S, Ibaka, TOR
                      D. Green, GSW
                      J. Brown, BOS
                      P. Millsap, DEN
                      D. Favors, UTA
                      A. Roberson, OKC
                      A. Drummond, DET, option
                      G. Hayward, BOS, option
                      D. DeRozan, SA, option


                      We need to milk the hell out of this offseason because next summer is going to be a huge ****ing snoozefest!


                      Knicks are supposedly fine rolling their cap space over to next year if they strike out this year...I think I'd almost rather overpay someone this year than spend max money on any of those guys.
                      Don't worry, if Kawhi signs a 1+1, we'll have a whole year to hear from Woj about how much Kawhi is going to LAC next offseason.

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                      • bigeastbumrush
                        My Momma's Son
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 19245

                        #1571
                        Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                        Originally posted by cima
                        Man have you guys seen how ****ty the 2020 FA class is?


                        K. Lowry, TOR
                        S, Ibaka, TOR
                        D. Green, GSW
                        J. Brown, BOS
                        P. Millsap, DEN
                        D. Favors, UTA
                        A. Roberson, OKC
                        A. Drummond, DET, option
                        G. Hayward, BOS, option
                        D. DeRozan, SA, option


                        We need to milk the hell out of this offseason because next summer is going to be a huge ****ing snoozefest!


                        Knicks are supposedly fine rolling their cap space over to next year if they strike out this year...I think I'd almost rather overpay someone this year than spend max money on any of those guys.
                        Next year's FA class is terrible, yes.

                        But that is not why a team accumulates assets (draft picks, young players) and saves cap space.

                        Every single year, top players under contract seek a trade or hint they want to be dealt. I believe that's what the current Knicks front office is doing.

                        And FWIW, this offseason should be similar to 2016 with players getting overpaid. Just look at how many 2nd and 3rd tier players have opted out and become free agents recently. And look at how some marginal teams (Suns) are trying to clear cap space. Heck..a playoff Nets team may let their young All-Star walk for nothing.

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                        • jeremym480
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                          • Oct 2008
                          • 18198

                          #1572
                          Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                          Originally posted by cima
                          Man have you guys seen how ****ty the 2020 FA class is?


                          K. Lowry, TOR
                          S, Ibaka, TOR
                          D. Green, GSW
                          J. Brown, BOS
                          P. Millsap, DEN
                          D. Favors, UTA
                          A. Roberson, OKC
                          A. Drummond, DET, option
                          G. Hayward, BOS, option
                          D. DeRozan, SA, option


                          We need to milk the hell out of this offseason because next summer is going to be a huge ****ing snoozefest!


                          Knicks are supposedly fine rolling their cap space over to next year if they strike out this year...I think I'd almost rather overpay someone this year than spend max money on any of those guys.

                          You forgot AD


                          Also, you listed Jaylen Brown, who is a RFA... other RFA's are Ben Simmons, Jamal Murray, Buddy Hield, Domantas Sabonis, etc. They are all likely to get matched but you never know.
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                          • cima
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 13478

                            #1573
                            Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                            Originally posted by jeremym480
                            You forgot AD


                            Also, you listed Jaylen Brown, who is a RFA... other RFA's are Ben Simmons, Jamal Murray, Buddy Hield, Domantas Sabonis, etc. They are all likely to get matched but you never know.

                            I just copy and pasted this list, it wasn't mine. I'm guessing those guys were left out because there's no way they don't get matched.

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                            • Smallville102001
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                              • Mar 2015
                              • 6542

                              #1574
                              Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                              Originally posted by cima
                              Multiple reports out there linking D'Lo/Lakers potentially reuniting now, so I guess it's time to start paying attention to that.

                              I suppose it's not the worst backup plan, especially considering his max is only $20 million, which I was previously unaware of. That will leave them with money over to sign another guy or two perhaps, despite ESPN apparently reporting that the Lakers are only going to have $19 million in cap space...wtf? I'm just curious as to where ESPN gets their info, because once again their stance has changed...after previously reporting it was $24 million...before not realizing they could still get $32 million by maneuvering around.


                              I had not heard the 19 million thing for cap space but I am so down for him. He cost less than KI like you said, and at 23 he may not even be in his prime yet ,were KI at 27 may be at his prime already, and may not get any better. If you get Russell not only do you have like a big 3 but with him being 23 and AD still only 27 you have two nice players to bulid around even in a few years when James is gone. It would make them a championship contender right now, and even after James is gone they would still be in pretty good shape, and with the money comming off the books from James you would be in pretty good shape to contend even after he is gone. I think he is a better player to get than KI or Kemba because of the age and the money and I think he has a better attitude than KI. KI is the better player but with the age and money and attitude is the difference in skill enough to really take KI over Russell?

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                              • Smallville102001
                                All Star
                                • Mar 2015
                                • 6542

                                #1575
                                Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                                Originally posted by ojandpizza
                                So how long until the Willie Cauley-Stein to the Lakers/Knicks rumors start? As early as Monday morning television? lol
                                I known I am late on this lol but I would rather just bring back JaVale McGee. I have always liked him. With AD and James he dosnt need to play a lot of minutes and McGee is a solid role player and he dosnt try to do to much.

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