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  • Smallville102001
    All Star
    • Mar 2015
    • 6542

    #1576
    Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by ojandpizza
    Reports have been they would offer him around 20 million. So your number wasn't necessarily wrong, it was just assuming they weren't giving him max money or were pulling numbers out of their *** and had no idea what they are talking about.

    Personally, I wouldn't offer him a max deal.. Though some teams probably will. I think you always have to be careful with a guy in a situation where he takes a lot of shots and scores some points on a team that is limited in their other options, and throwing them max money..

    Yeah he had a nice year, put up 20, but was taking 19 shots. He was the main scoring option on that team, but lots of non-max level guys will score like that on that shot volume.. Lou Williams for example makes 8 million.. That's how you wind up with all those stupid contracts like the one Andrew Wiggins has..
    A lot of guys seem to be getting max money now days though so its hard to say who will or will not get one. Its like any one that is considered a all star even if they are not close to a superstar is being talked about for max money and there is a big difference between a superstar and some one that is like just barley a star. Maybe they could go in like the middle of that 20 and that 27.25 number and give him like 23-24?

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    • Smallville102001
      All Star
      • Mar 2015
      • 6542

      #1577
      Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

      Originally posted by cima
      Man have you guys seen how ****ty the 2020 FA class is?


      K. Lowry, TOR
      S, Ibaka, TOR
      D. Green, GSW
      J. Brown, BOS
      P. Millsap, DEN
      D. Favors, UTA
      A. Roberson, OKC
      A. Drummond, DET, option
      G. Hayward, BOS, option
      D. DeRozan, SA, option


      We need to milk the hell out of this offseason because next summer is going to be a huge ****ing snoozefest!


      Knicks are supposedly fine rolling their cap space over to next year if they strike out this year...I think I'd almost rather overpay someone this year than spend max money on any of those guys.
      Those are some nice players but yeah not like this year has they are not like team/league changing type of players. This offseason is like the offseason of all star's/superstars. Next offseason may be the offseason of role players lol.

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      • georgiafan
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jul 2002
        • 11112

        #1578
        Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

        Next years FA class likely looks a little better when a few guys take 1+1 deals this year
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        • illwill10
          Hall Of Fame
          • Mar 2009
          • 19827

          #1579
          Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

          They are saying Houston is trying to persuade Jimmy Butler sign and trade. As a 76ers fan, I'm rather see him walk than get what Rockets have to offer. Outside of Gordon and Tucker, no one else I'm interested in. Plus they would need a third team. I like what Sean Marks suggested. Resigning Harris and Reddick and still have about 18 mill in cap space. They could get a guy like Mirotic or get a couple players. They need a backup PG because I think McConnell is a FA, depth in frontcourt, another 3 & D wing.

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          • cima
            Hall Of Fame
            • Sep 2004
            • 13478

            #1580
            Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

            Harden, Paul, and Butler just sounds like an awful idea. I can't be the only one who thinks that.

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            • illwill10
              Hall Of Fame
              • Mar 2009
              • 19827

              #1581
              Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

              Originally posted by cima
              Harden, Paul, and Butler just sounds like an awful idea. I can't be the only one who thinks that.
              Exactly. That is way too much ego and 3 ball dominant perimeter players. Would have to give up Capela, so rim protection would be an issue. Jimmy isn't a knockdown shooter, so giving up Gordon would hurt.
              Last edited by illwill10; 06-25-2019, 06:59 PM.

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              • cima
                Hall Of Fame
                • Sep 2004
                • 13478

                #1582
                Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                Originally posted by illwill10
                Exactly. That is way too much ego and 3 ball dominant perimeter players. Would have to give up Capela, so rim protection would be an issue. Jimmy isn't a knockdown shooter, so giving up Gordon would hurt.

                I'm sure Morey did his analytics homework though and found something he liked. No idea what, but he must've found something.

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                • cima
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 13478

                  #1583
                  Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                  Originally posted by georgiafan
                  Next years FA class likely looks a little better when a few guys take 1+1 deals this year

                  Realistically though what big name from this year would sign a 1+1 (I've heard the Kawhi rumors) this year?

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                  • cima
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 13478

                    #1584
                    Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                    I'm sure y'all are annoyed I'm keeping the **** Woj train going, but here we are again.


                    Woj last week: "The Lakers have no chance of getting Kawhi and they never did"


                    Woj today: "I think they've (Kawhi's camp) kept their eye on the Lakers"

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                    • The 24th Letter
                      ERA
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 39373

                      #1585
                      Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                      It's like a Raptors beat guy said (BTW the team beat guys are usually the best source of info), and goes along with every thing we've seen from Kawhi

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                      At the end of the day, no one knows...but it's fun to speculate..
                      Last edited by The 24th Letter; 06-25-2019, 07:56 PM.

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                      • Majingir
                        Moderator
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 47637

                        #1586
                        Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                        Originally posted by cima
                        I'm sure y'all are annoyed I'm keeping the **** Woj train going, but here we are again.


                        Woj last week: "The Lakers have no chance of getting Kawhi and they never did"


                        Woj today: "I think they've (Kawhi's camp) kept their eye on the Lakers"
                        It's like I said, no matter where Kawhi goes, everyone will be right because everyone has thrown out every scenario outside of him not playing next year for anyone lol

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                        • cima
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 13478

                          #1587
                          Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                          Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                          It's like a Raptors beat guy said (BTW the team beat guys are usually the best source of info), and goes along with every thing we've seen from Kawhi

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                          At the end of the day, no one knows...but it's fun to speculate..

                          Agreed, I'm just trying to keep conversation flowing even though it's non-news for most. Like I said, next year's FA is bare bones so might as well get all the fun in this summer.

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                          • Majingir
                            Moderator
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 47637

                            #1588
                            Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                            Originally posted by cima
                            Agreed, I'm just trying to keep conversation flowing even though it's non-news for most. Like I said, next year's FA is bare bones so might as well get all the fun in this summer.
                            Dont worry, even if FA class ends up being thin, we'll see so many trade rumors. Every top name talent could be dealt. And what team could position themselves to get Giannis in 2021(Ujiri will be targeting Giannis like Clippers trying to get Kawhi lol. Giannis is one of his fave players)? They know how to create stories.

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                            • cima
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 13478

                              #1589
                              Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                              Originally posted by Majingir
                              Dont worry, even if FA class ends up being thin, we'll see so many trade rumors. Every top name talent could be dealt. And what team could position themselves to get Giannis in 2021(Ujiri will be targeting Giannis like Clippers trying to get Kawhi lol. Giannis is one of his fave players)? They know how to create stories.

                              True, looking at the 2021 FA class, next year will all be out preparing for that summer.



                              CP3, LeBron, Blake, PG13, Hayward, Giannis, Conley, Dame, CJ, DeMar, Gobert, Beal, and Oladpio all pending FAs barring no extensions signed.

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                              • cima
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Sep 2004
                                • 13478

                                #1590
                                Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                                Cavs likely to release JR on Sunday.


                                Do you think Bron would take him back?

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