2019 Offseason Thread

[ojandpizza]

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I would have thought that because of Twitter, it would have started 30 seconds after the report came out. I wouldn't mind him on the Lakers if we could get him for like 5 or 6 mil per.

I would guess at the very least he will be double that. I feel like Myles Turner kinda set the bar as far as what these non-star level young bigs will be getting in the bear future. He's getting about 17.5 a year, but this past season was an All-Defense level defensive player. WCS I could see closer to the 14-15 range, which puts him just a bit lower than guys like Turner and Capela.

Personally, I don't think he's quite worth that. He's yet to play 30 minutes a night and while the past two seasons from him have been solid but not great, they are still numbers on relatively poor teams. Capela and Turner getting those numbers on playoff teams is a plus, and Capela typically leads the league in FG% as well.

[TMagic]

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I'd be mad as hell if we went out and paid 15 mil for WCS man [emoji23]

[ojandpizza]

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I'd be mad as hell if we went out and paid 15 mil for WCS man [emoji23]

Lakers would have no reason to sign him for that much, I just meant that's likely the type of money he'll command.

A much more realistic option would be Klutch sports Nerlens Noel for 2-3 million and trying to lock that in for more than one season so he doesn't get pried away by big money from another team after he looks serviceable next to Bron and AD.

But even then that's the type of deal they seek out after they've filled out the more important pieces of their roster.

[King_B_Mack]

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And in the least surprising news ever Chris B Haynes reporting that Kawhi is declining his $21.3 player option to become an unrestricted free agent


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[Majingir]

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And in the least surprising news ever Chris B Haynes reporting that Kawhi is declining his $21.3 player option to become an unrestricted free agent


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And the part he said after that..."seriously considering re-signing with the Raptors"

[King_B_Mack]

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And the part he said after that..."seriously considering re-signing with the Raptors"

Didn’t see that part on my notifications. We’ll see what shakes out


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[cima]

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There's been some speculation that because there's so many teams with a ton of cap room, lots of good quality players in this year's FA, and what looks like an absolutely horrible 2020 FA class, we could see a repeat of 2016 with guys getting overpaid.


This in particular makes a Kawhi or Kyrie signing for LAL more important because though filling out with depth may be a good option, the guys they would target will likely be getting paid well, so it won't be as easy as people think.

[King_B_Mack]

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So basically what I’ve been saying this whole time?


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[Majingir]

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If Kawhi is staying with Raptors, I want it to happen before any interview period. That'd really prove everyone wrong who said he's leaving.

But I see him going through the interviews not so much to see where he's going this year, but to weigh out options after this year. Do the 1+1 with Raptors and if Raptors aren't gonna be as good the following year, he'd already have good idea what these other teams are gonna be offering beforehand in terms of the team they'll put on the court, the city, his role and all that.

[cima]

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I feel like this is a captain obvious post. But if you had to guess who he was talking about, my guesses would be:

1. Knicks
2. Clippers
3. Celtics


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[ojandpizza]

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If Kawhi is staying with Raptors, I want it to happen before any interview period. That'd really prove everyone wrong who said he's leaving.

But I see him going through the interviews not so much to see where he's going this year, but to weigh out options after this year. Do the 1+1 with Raptors and if Raptors aren't gonna be as good the following year, he'd already have good idea what these other teams are gonna be offering beforehand in terms of the team they'll put on the court, the city, his role and all that.

Only issue is many of these same teams might not be in a position to sign him again next year. If the Nets/Knicks land someone I’m not sure how that effects them next year, the Lakers can’t afford a max next season, and if the Clippers land their two stars because it’s clearly the “best destination”, they wouldn’t be able to afford him next year either..

I think it’s unlikely at this point that he signs a 1+1, but who knows. Maybe he wants to run it back and then jump ship. But if he truly wants to play on one of those teams I doubt he is interviewing for them for what would be a signing a year from now.

You’d also be asking a lot of those teams to fill out rosters on 1 year deals instead of getting guys to help them win while they have the money to get them. And they would be doing that after Kawhi not signing with them, meaning no guarantee he would sign with them the next time around either.

I feel like this is a captain obvious post. But if you had to guess who he was talking about, my guesses would be:

1. Knicks
2. Clippers
3. Celtics


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I think you could add the Lakers to this mix, but doubtful since nobody really knows what they are even going after at this point and they landed AD.. but if a big fish is out of the question they could be referring to them.

I think the obvious would be the first two listed, mainly if KD doesn’t go to the Knicks and Kyrie goes to the Nets, and also Clippers if Kawhi doesn’t come.. rumor is they are looking at Horford, not sure if that would be considered a failure or not. Celtics I’m not sure. Seems like they were never linked to any big names to begin with, unless this is referring to them losing Kyrie and Horford and not getting a top tier replacement.


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[Majingir]

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I feel like this is a captain obvious post. But if you had to guess who he was talking about.

The ultimate vague report. "Breaking news. There'll be multiple fanbases disappointed with how FA ended up". You could put that out to start any FA or trade deadline or draft in any sport and it would apply.

I think it’s unlikely at this point that he signs a 1+1, but who knows. Maybe he wants to run it back and then jump ship.

I think 1+1 is most likely if he stays with Raptors. 2+1 another option. 2 years takes him to the supermax. It's where the trust comes in to play.

Spend 2 years with a medical staff he trusts, stay healthy and at the top of his game, and cash in on supermax after. Outside of Raptors, all other medical staffs are unknowns. Might have reputations, but doesn't really matter. He cares about how he personally feels with them.

And the obvious title contenders for at least 1 of those 2 years. The 2nd year of which the Raptors would be heading into offseason with Lowry,Ibaka,Gasols big deals off the books, maybe room for a max deal to add onto Kawhi and possible all star Siakam.

[cima]

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Nah it won't be the Lakers. They already got the cake last year (LeBron), now they got the icing (AD). Kawhi or Kyrie would be the cherry on top. Either way, you can still eat cake with just icing.


No idea where that metaphor came from, but I am hungry

[The 24th Letter]

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In case you're interested:

Tim MacMahon (who also wrote a piece on the matter) said he continued to investigate Vince Goodwill's CP3/Harden story and it "didn't check out"

http://m.espn.com/general/play?id=27024883

Paul also reinterated he wants to stay in Hoiston and never asked for a trade-

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/rockets/amp/Chris-Paul-I-ll-be-in-Houston-I-m-14031984.php

Looks like CP3 isnt going anywhere

[OSUFan_88]

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In case you're interested:

Tim MacMahon (who also wrote a piece on the matter) said he continued to investigate Vince Goodwill's CP3/Harden story and it "didn't check out"

http://m.espn.com/general/play?id=27024883

Paul also reinterated he wants to stay in Hoiston and never asked for a trade-

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/rockets/amp/Chris-Paul-I-ll-be-in-Houston-I-m-14031984.php

Looks like CP3 isnt going anywhere

CP3 isn't going anywhere because he's due something like 40 million this year and no one is going to pay him other than the Rockets.