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  • cima
    Hall Of Fame
    • Sep 2004
    • 13478

    #4051
    Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by King_B_Mack
    Agreed. I would think Kawhi recruiting a guy on another team under contract would be tampering. But we know how that goes in the league.

    I do think this is a dangerous precedent though with a guy just signing a max deal last year and already requesting and being granted a trade. That definitely doesn’t need to be a trend we see kick off.


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    Between the KD to GS (though that was a one-time thing) and this, I think a lockout is looking likely. Players are gonna want freedom but owners, especially the small market owners, I'm sure are very pissed and discouraged by what transpired with PG13 in a span of 12 months.

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    • 23
      yellow
      • Sep 2002
      • 66469

      #4052
      Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

      Originally posted by Master Live 013
      Part of it is Kawhi working like a surgeon, going in and out expeditiously. We didn't hear jack about him talking with PG and forcing OKC hands, he just did it. With LeBron and his whole circus it would have started Monday with some Rich Paul press release and then and whole ball of **** rolling down making everything a pain in the ***.

      Lesson: do stuff quietly and quick.

      Kawhi was a free agent. He could talk to whomever he felt, and you better believe LeBron and them talked to him too.

      George, LeBron, etc all tried (or could have tried) to recruit the dude im sure of it, so looking for some moral standard here is ridiculous.

      I can't stand how LeBron's strange fans have no issue with anything he ever does. This is the only dude who has an agency working for him and grabbing clients who happen to get either larger than deserved contracts or end up on the same team as him.

      Eric Bledsoe wanted out, Anthony Davis wanted out,KCP wanted a bigger deal to come, and Draymond will probably reject GS's extension again now.

      What im seeing here is definitely unique. Two dudes who wanted to play at home, but one happened to sign elsewhere. Both wanted the Lakers prior to LeBron but not after supposedly, but LA for sure.

      Anyway we heard all of that Cousins gives the Warriors 4 All Stars and Team USA talk and all of that last year so I wanna hear that same talk this year.

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      • Master Live 013
        Hall Of Fame
        • Oct 2013
        • 12417

        #4053
        Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

        Lockout to do what? Which changes would small market owners (allegedly) seek to "change" the situation assuming this is a problem at all?

        Can't trade a max contract for X amount of years? Players will just sign contracts just below the max. Next.
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        • ProfessaPackMan
          Bamma
          • Mar 2008
          • 63852

          #4054
          2019 Offseason Thread

          Originally posted by cima
          I'm not mad about it though *shrugs*. I like how the Lakers roster turned out and if they win a championship next year, it will be that much sweeter. As fun as it would've been to have formed the greatest trio ever, the title's value would've been discredited like KD's were.

          Don't see how LeBron got beat at his own game though because LeBron/AD is a better duo than Kawhi/PG13 is.

          I never paid a lot of attention to the SA/Kawhi saga before to be honest, but now looking back at it...Pops is the godfather of load management...kinda hard to believe the Spurs of all teams were mismanaging Kawhi's injury. Look how long they extended Tim Duncan's career and Pops was getting fined for resting players on national TV. Now that this saga has concluded and Kawhi ended up in LA like he wanted all a long, I believe it does vindicate SA's handling of Kawhi.
          1. Let’s be real: You weren’t going to discredit that hypothetical title if Kawhi won it with your boy and Davis so let’s the cut that out.

          2. Lets be real again: If it had been Lebron/Kawhi doing the same thing you’re accusing him of doing to other teams(rescheduling a Clippers meeting)you wouldn’t have said a damn thing and you damn sure wouldn’t be talking about Kawhi being “shady” because of that.

          If anything, you’d be right in here posting more nonsense about Woj or Ballmer or whoever and believing every single other report that came out, especially if it supported your opinion.

          And now you want to play the “Well, maybe the Spurs were right all along” card, a year later? Lol where was THIS at for the last few weeks? Where was this energy at?

          Instead all we got were random tweets from Cris Carter or from supposed Lakers “insider” who was never wrong on about the Lakers and called all of their moves and other teams moves as well before they were official.

          Matter of fact, what are they talking about now? Lol

          And no, there won’t be a lockout so let’s stop that right there. This is nothing like 2011 and when Stern was in charge. League is a much better place now than it was 8 years ago.
          #RespectTheCulture

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          • lilteapot
            MVP
            • Aug 2013
            • 4550

            #4055
            Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

            Originally posted by 23
            When y'all gonna stop this tinfoil stuff fam?

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            • illwill10
              Hall Of Fame
              • Mar 2009
              • 19827

              #4056
              Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

              Originally posted by OSUFan_88
              AD/Bron might be better than Kawhi/PG this year, and I would say that's likely. However, the supporting cast is significantly better with the Clippers and, really, it's not even close.

              Further more, Kawhi and PG will likely get a pretty light load for the playoffs, while AD and Bron are going to have to play the majority of the games this year. Additionally, time is on Kawhi and PG side and we saw last year that minutes might be catching up to LeBron previously thought to be indestructible body.
              Yeah I think Bron/AD can be more efficient and score more combined points just because they both take higher percentage shots. But I agree, the Clippers are the better situation. The supporting cast will make life easier for PG and Kawhi. They can win games without one or even both having great games just because Lou Will and Shamet(miss him in Philly) could get you 20. Not to mention, they can run all defensive lineups and still have spacing and not sacrifice offense. Main weakness they seem to have is lack of playmaking.
              Where the Lakers are going to need consistent games from Bron/AD. They are going to need Kuz to fully embrace the scoring 6th man role. Because outside of those 3, they are full of streaky shooters unless Cousins can provide the scoring in spurts. They are going poor perimeter defensive team. They are relying on Rondo, Green, and KCP to be their primary perimeter defenders.

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              • ojandpizza
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2011
                • 29807

                #4057
                Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                Agreed. I would think Kawhi recruiting a guy on another team under contract would be tampering. But we know how that goes in the league.

                I do think this is a dangerous precedent though with a guy just signing a max deal last year and already requesting and being granted a trade. That definitely doesn’t need to be a trend we see kick off.


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                Not much you can do about it honestly.


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                • phenom1990
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 4789

                  #4058
                  Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                  Is this true?



                  LOL
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                  • ojandpizza
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 29807

                    #4059
                    Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                    Originally posted by phenom1990


                    Yes lol


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                    • z Revis
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 13639

                      #4060
                      Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                      It’s not like this is anything new really. Players force their way out all the time. This just happened to be a year after resigning instead of like 1-2 years left on the contract.


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                      • cima
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 13478

                        #4061
                        Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                        Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                        1. Let’s be real: You weren’t going to discredit that hypothetical title if Kawhi won it with your boy and Davis so let’s the cut that out.

                        2. Lets be real again: If it had been Lebron/Kawhi doing the same thing you’re accusing him of doing to other teams(rescheduling a Clippers meeting)you wouldn’t have said a damn thing and you damn sure wouldn’t be talking about Kawhi being “shady” because of that.

                        If anything, you’d be right in here posting more nonsense about Woj or Ballmer or whoever and believing every single other report that came out, especially if it supported your opinion.

                        And now you want to play the “Well, maybe the Spurs were right all along” card, a year later? Lol where was THIS at for the last few weeks? Where was this energy at?

                        Instead all we got were random tweets from Cris Carter or from supposed Lakers “insider” who was never wrong on about the Lakers and called all of their moves and other teams moves as well before they were official.

                        Matter of fact, what are they talking about now? Lol

                        And no, there won’t be a lockout so let’s stop that right there. This is nothing like 2011 and when Stern was in charge. League is a much better place now than it was 8 years ago.
                        Yawn, y'all are so boringly predictable.

                        Try talking about the message rather than focusing on the name of the poster who posted the message. If my username was Jimmy893, you wouldn't be posting the nonsense you just wasted your time on. The SA/Kawhi topic is actually a legitimate topic of discussion, especially with the benefit of hindsight. And what Kawhi did WAS shady (and my first post this morning I even said what he did was well played). But nope cima posted it, so gotta bring LeBron into the discussion and talk about "why doesn't cima say this **** about LeBron". I'm not trying to talk about LeBron right now. I'm trying to talk about how many of us, myself included, bought into Kawhi's sob story about how SA mistreated him when now after learning how he conducts his business, I'm calling BS on.

                        So tired of the guys on here that like to stick their chest out with that "keep that same energy" nonsense. Why do you think I brought up the fake mad thing? Cause I was waiting for someone to "keep that same energy". When are you gonna realize that absolutely no one keeps the same energy on anything around here? We all have biases that cloud our judgement. I even prefaced the Kawhi/SA thing with "I didn't really pay attention to this last year" but nope gotta dismiss that so you can get your "keep that energy" nonsense.

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                        • The 24th Letter
                          ERA
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 39373

                          #4062
                          Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                          Originally posted by 23
                          Anyway we heard all of that Cousins gives the Warriors 4 All Stars and Team USA talk and all of that last year so I wanna hear that same talk this year.
                          I wanna hear that same defense of players/teams across the board too [emoji102]
                          Last edited by The 24th Letter; 07-06-2019, 10:04 PM.

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                          • The 24th Letter
                            ERA
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 39373

                            #4063
                            Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                            Originally posted by cima
                            Does this whole Kawhi-saga vindicate San Antonio in anyway? Surprised more people (those of you that were fake mad at AD/LeBron colluding) aren't fake mad at Kawhi/PG13 colluding, especially after PG13 just re-signed with OKC one year ago.

                            Some of these stories about how things went down, like Kawhi switching meeting places on the Lakers multiple times and then meeting up with PG13 the same day is pretty shady.
                            A week after all of that, LeMarcus Aldridge comes out with an article straight up saying him and Dame are actively talking about joining back up on the Blazers....and no one but Spurs fans bat an eye, 🤷🏾*♂️

                            What do you mean by vindicate SA though?

                            His exit didnt have anything to do with any of that?

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                            • Master Live 013
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 12417

                              #4064
                              Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                              Well, what Kawhi is shady, talking to a player under contract and making said player demand a trade? That's a power play if I ever heard one. If LeBron did that he would get murdered, but then again he might go about it in a The Decision/Rich Paul (AD) circus manner.

                              And I still believe Kawhi quit on Spurs. But time passes and it is like whatever. I mean, there is people talking here about Vince Carter and "his legacy" and how good of a "vet" he is when the dude dog quit on the Raptors. It is what is, people get tired and eventually it is like whatever.
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                              • BleacherBum2310
                                All Star
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 7107

                                #4065
                                Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                                Originally posted by jeebs9
                                There are never defensive highlights. Calling a player washed up after only half a season of play. Man that's garbage [emoji58]. If your going to graded him on his first playoffs. And playing after a month off from a quad injury. No one expected him to come back from.

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                                as a rotational piece it's fine. credit for him coming back from injury but he's a disaster on defense even before the injury.
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