2019 Offseason Thread

[z Revis]

2019 Offseason Thread

People just trying to downplay the signing for whatever reason. Calling a guy that only played 30 games "washed" when he averaged 16/8/3.6 in 26 MPG is hilarious.

His Per 36 numbers last year aren't far off from his pre-achilles injury

17-18 per 36: 25/12.8/5.3/1.6/1.6
18-19 per 36: 22.8/11.5/5/1.9/2.1

He was really hitting his stride in April. Cousins was never a defensive juggernaut anyway and no one is expecting that from him. He can still put the ball in the bucket, still get boards, and still make plays from the C position. He's gonna be much more valuable than people giving him credit for. And this offseason he gets to spend getting in shape rather than rehabbing. Don't sleep on him.

I’m with you on this. Not sure why people are writing him off. That’s ridiculous considering even if all he gives you is another 16 and 8 season then that’s a ****ing bargain given what the Lakers are paying him.


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[cima]

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Does this whole Kawhi-saga vindicate San Antonio in anyway? Surprised more people (those of you that were fake mad at AD/LeBron colluding) aren't fake mad at Kawhi/PG13 colluding, especially after PG13 just re-signed with OKC one year ago.

Some of these stories about how things went down, like Kawhi switching meeting places on the Lakers multiple times and then meeting up with PG13 the same day is pretty shady.

[Master Live 013]

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Would you?

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No, I would not.

[Master Live 013]

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Part of it is Kawhi working like a surgeon, going in and out expeditiously. We didn't hear jack about him talking with PG and forcing OKC hands, he just did it. With LeBron and his whole circus it would have started Monday with some Rich Paul press release and then and whole ball of **** rolling down making everything a pain in the ***.

Lesson: do stuff quietly and quick.

[Majingir]

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Lol, I've been commenting past 12 hours and didn't actually see what LAC gave up for PG.

That's insane. As much as I wanted Kawhi to stay, 4 firsts unprotected, 1 more protected AND 2 more pick swaps along with players for PG.

If you want to stay, stay. If not, team isnt giving up everything to try convincing further.

If Clippers win this or next year, I'm sure they'll be happy. If not, that's gonna be a rough future.

[Master Live 013]

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Hot takes time:

• Don't like this signing for Cousins. He should go to a bad team and put up numbers and recoup his value to get his money. What is he doing? Didn't we see this movie already this year with GS? I don't like it.
• **** it, bring Westbrook to the Heat and then have Riley come down from the rafters to coach the team.
• So has anyone heard from Ben Simmons? Is he working on his jumper? Yes, I will keep harping on this until he retires.

[Master Live 013]

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Lol, I've been commenting past 12 hours and didn't actually see what LAC gave up for PG.

That's insane. As much as I wanted Kawhi to stay, 4 firsts unprotected, 1 more protected AND 2 more pick swaps along with players for PG.

If you want to stay, stay. If not, team isnt giving up everything to try convincing further.

If Clippers win this or next year, I'm sure they'll be happy. If not, that's gonna be a rough future.

It is more like they gave all of that + money to get both PG and Kawhi.

[King_B_Mack]

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Does this whole Kawhi-saga vindicate San Antonio in anyway? Surprised more people (those of you that were fake mad at AD/LeBron colluding) aren't fake mad at Kawhi/PG13 colluding, especially after PG13 just re-signed with OKC one year ago.

Some of these stories about how things went down, like Kawhi switching meeting places on the Lakers multiple times and then meeting up with PG13 the same day is pretty shady.

Fake mad lol. Once again your boy got beat at his own game. Can't be mad about the dude that brings the knife to the fist fight and ends up being the one getting stabbed.

[jeebs9]

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

Does this whole Kawhi-saga vindicate San Antonio in anyway? Surprised more people (those of you that were fake mad at AD/LeBron colluding) aren't fake mad at Kawhi/PG13 colluding, especially after PG13 just re-signed with OKC one year ago.

Some of these stories about how things went down, like Kawhi switching meeting places on the Lakers multiple times and then meeting up with PG13 the same day is pretty shady.

I think is my problem. PG year ago... signed a 4 year deal. Has a amazing year in my opinion. Hurt his shoulders. And has a conversation with another player. And forces a trade. Man... If I were the trade I'd do the same the Pels did. I'd sit on him. Are teams just going to keep doing this? But if a player signs a 4 year Max deal. He can't be traded until 3 or something. I don't know. I would feel better if PG signed a 2 year deal with the second year bring an player option. I just find it crazy one year later he changed his mind.

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[cima]

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Fake mad lol. Once again your boy got beat at his own game. Can't be mad about the dude that brings the knife to the fist fight and ends up being the one getting stabbed.

I'm not mad about it though *shrugs*. I like how the Lakers roster turned out and if they win a championship next year, it will be that much sweeter. As fun as it would've been to have formed the greatest trio ever, the title's value would've been discredited like KD's were.

Don't see how LeBron got beat at his own game though because LeBron/AD is a better duo than Kawhi/PG13 is.

I never paid a lot of attention to the SA/Kawhi saga before to be honest, but now looking back at it...Pops is the godfather of load management...kinda hard to believe the Spurs of all teams were mismanaging Kawhi's injury. Look how long they extended Tim Duncan's career and Pops was getting fined for resting players on national TV. Now that this saga has concluded and Kawhi ended up in LA like he wanted all a long, I believe it does vindicate SA's handling of Kawhi.

[OSUFan_88]

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AD/Bron might be better than Kawhi/PG this year, and I would say that's likely. However, the supporting cast is significantly better with the Clippers and, really, it's not even close.

Further more, Kawhi and PG will likely get a pretty light load for the playoffs, while AD and Bron are going to have to play the majority of the games this year. Additionally, time is on Kawhi and PG side and we saw last year that minutes might be catching up to LeBron previously thought to be indestructible body.

[Master Live 013]

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Better coach: Clippers. Front office I trust most (between the two): Clippers.

[ojandpizza]

2019 Offseason Thread

A lot of that depends on what Cousins provides.

As of right now Kuzma is better than Shamet, and scored at about the same rate as Lou last year. He’s a 3rd 20 a game guy on the roster at 22-23 who is still improving. All the talk of how good Lou was, and he was in the playoffs, both were 20 per 36 guys last year, Kuz doing it more efficiently... But Kuz just doesn’t get that type of scoring recognition for whatever reason, hasn’t all off-season.

Zubac and McGee is basically a wash, unless Zubac takes another big jump forward.

Both KCP and Green are double digit level scorers with plus defense, Green more so on defense, more scoring on the KCP side.. Bev is more of a nuisance sure, but KCP has a lot more offensive potential on most nights.. and again is the same age as someone like Harrell and still getting better.

Harrell is the advantage for LAC, but that’s factoring in we don’t get Cousins back to anything close to his old self. Another situation where Cousins is only a couple years older and substantially better.

Harkless and whoever you put, Rondo, KCP, Tucker, JaVale is a wash. In terms of value.

I don’t think this Clippers team is nearly as deep as they are talked up to be, or the Lakes group as shallow. But again Cousins is the big determining factor here. I think both teams are pretty close, and moving forward people forget how young Davis is. He’s either the same age or year older than Harrell..


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[cima]

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AD/Bron might be better than Kawhi/PG this year, and I would say that's likely. However, the supporting cast is significantly better with the Clippers and, really, it's not even close.

Further more, Kawhi and PG will likely get a pretty light load for the playoffs, while AD and Bron are going to have to play the majority of the games this year. Additionally, time is on Kawhi and PG side and we saw last year that minutes might be catching up to LeBron previously thought to be indestructible body.

Meh. Kawhi needs his load managed, PG13 is coming off 2 shoulder surgeries. Not like they're exactly iron men either.

Didn't really wanna debate about this though when I made the original post since we got all year to do that, wanted to talk more about San Antonio's handling of Kawhi now that we have hindsight.

[King_B_Mack]

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I think is my problem. PG year ago... signed a 4 year deal. Has a amazing year in my opinion. Hurt his shoulders. And has a conversation with another player. And forces a trade. Man... If I were the trade I'd do the same the Pels did. I'd sit on him. Are teams just going to keep doing this? But if a player signs a 4 year Max deal. He can't be traded until 3 or something. I don't know. I would feel better if PG signed a 2 year deal with the second year bring an player option. I just find it crazy one year later he changed his mind.

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Agreed. I would think Kawhi recruiting a guy on another team under contract would be tampering. But we know how that goes in the league.

I do think this is a dangerous precedent though with a guy just signing a max deal last year and already requesting and being granted a trade. That definitely doesn’t need to be a trend we see kick off.


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