2019 Offseason Thread

[bigeastbumrush]

2019 Offseason Thread

So that whole the only 2 guys that are untouchable are James and Chris spiel from Daryl Morey was just bs... alrighty then.

Came in here to post this.

Morey publicly said he’s not trading CP3 and everything is just peachy between him and Harden.

But Marcus Morris is a scumbag though. Ok.

[ggsimmonds]

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@sam_amick
Source, to the @TheAthletic: Chris Paul's agent, Leon Rose, will talk to OKC GM Sam Presti in the coming days to determine what's next. If CP wants to go to Miami to join Jimmy Butler, it's clear there's a deal to be done there. The Thunder would engage and have interest.

OKC already has Miami’s 2020 draft pick though, I wonder if that is a factor whatsoever.

I’m curious to see what their next step is. I feel like any team that gives up real assets for CP3 at this point is making a mistake

[Majingir]

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I almost forgot CP3 has already played in OKC. First 2 years of his career, he was on the NOKC Hornets.

[dubcity]

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Houston, we have a problem. What the **** are you doing?

[Majingir]

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What could have been...


Could the OKC streak continue?

KD won in 17,18
Ibaka won in 19

Westbrook/Harden in 20?

[illwill10]

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What could have been...

The what if scenarios are always something to think about. Not just if they would have kept that group together longer, imagine how different league would be if the 2016 WCF had a different result. Everyone talked about Warriors losing up 3-1, but I felt OKC losing up 3-1 was more significant. That series Westbrook handled Curry. Imagine if OKC won that series. I still think Cleveland would have won, but I don't see KD leaving if they made Finals or at the very least wouldn't have chosen GS. GS openly recruited KD all year that year. KD going to the Warriors changed up the league. Almost made them a certainty for his duration there.

Teams now are being more aggressive with Warriors not being a lock. It's going to be a the first time in a long while where there doesn't feel like, barring an injury, that there will be at least one team that feels like a lock to make Finals. Clippers are the favorites but who knows if Kawhi and PG stays healthy. Lakers are hoping a 35 year old LeBron and AD stay healthy. Unless Boogie has a MIP type year, it will be Lebron, AD, and middle-tier role players. So this should be a fun year

[King_B_Mack]

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Came in here to post this.

Morey publicly said he’s not trading CP3 and everything is just peachy between him and Harden.

But Marcus Morris is a scumbag though. Ok.

What if I told you both could equally be scumbags for their crap business practices?

Same note, remember when it was funny to laugh at Vincent Goodwill’s reporting and lump him into the bad “journalist” pool with the Broussards of the world cause of the F the media agenda and cause CP and Morey said it wasn’t true and he wasn’t going anywhere? Yeah fun times...


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Anyway, general consensus around seems alot of people dont really like the trade.

They said Chris Paul and Harden couldn't work but they did.

Gotta see how this plays out

[J_Posse]

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Me? I don't think I've said anything about Shamet good or bad.

edit: I talked about the Clippers youth/potential as a whole, when people were acting like SGA, Harrell, Shamet, were a really great young core compared to more long term success than the Lakers guys.. Which Harrell is basically the same age as AD and Shamet the same as Kuzma, both of which the Lakers two have been substantially better.

You are overrating Kyle "No Defense, All Hype" Kuzma's a lot, man. He is a solid stretch 4 (and great pick up in the second round), but hasn't done anything of note.

Also, I said that having flexibility and young talent is better than just LeBron, A.D. and scraps long - term. The Lakers window is only two years max with this duo (probably 3 had Kawhi gonna there).

The window with the Clippers (prior to the PG13 trade) was wider with a great coach, the best GM in NBA history, young talent (at every conceivable position) & all their own picks.

Obviously, that has all changed with the trade for George. Both teams are now in "win now" mode




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[J_Posse]

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Man, I would have preferred to either keep Bertans or have Morris signed. Sucks ***, but the Spurs will have to hope Trey Lyles can bounce back from this terrible past season.

Sucks that Morris can come to terms verbally, while his representation (which also reps Lyles and Murray SMDH) is still shopping him or "listening" to deals.

Oh well, Spurs once again gotta take lemons and make lemonade. I'm just hoping for good health and a break out season for the young guard trio.

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[SoonerCrazy84]

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Cp3 and a 1st round pick to Miami for Bam and Winslow....do it Presti.

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[J_Posse]

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That's what makes the Kawhi signing more weird. For a guy who got injured as bad as he did, he only had 1 season back from that injury under big load management and an unexpected 24 game playoff, and is now joining a team with a diff medical staff. All while taking a 2-3 year deal. If he gets hurt, who knows what any contract after this will be like.

Nephew's injury isn't anywhere near as severe as a torn achilles, man. Yes, he need to be "rested" or "load managed" for the remainder of his career, but it is a chronic issue that he can play through.

He didn't have or require surgery for Pete's sake, but here you are acting like he tore his quad completely (like Tony's "100 times worse" injury).

Now, how long his prime will be and if or when the chronic issue lessens his on - court impact is another story.

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[jeebs9]

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Anyway, general consensus around seems alot of people dont really like the trade.

They said Chris Paul and Harden couldn't work but they did.

Gotta see how this plays out

Here is one thing. CP3 is obviously a much better spot up shooter and can control a game from a defensive stand point.

Russell on the other hand should ignite their transition game. Something Dan Tony hasn't done since the Suns. I know everyone is probably worried about Westbrook shooting numbers. I don't think people should care about his shooting number. He's going to attack. And when he does. Harden just needs to spot up.

Westbrook is pest on defense. He just needs to focus more on the right play. Instead of the gamble.

I think this is a great move for Westbrook

Man, I would have preferred to either keep Bertans or have Morris signed. Sucks ***, but the Spurs will have to hope Trey Lyles can bounce back from this terrible past season.

Sucks that Morris can come to terms verbally, while his representation (which also reps Lyles and Murray SMDH) is still shopping him or "listening" to deals.

Oh well, Spurs once again gotta take lemons and make lemonade. I'm just hoping for good health and a break out season for the young guard trio.

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I think Lyle's will surface as a nice pick up. I think it's his time.

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[jeebs9]

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Cp3 and a 1st round pick to Miami for Bam and Winslow....do it Presti.

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I don't like that deal. Winlow has been paying well. Can't get rid of him just yet. And Bam is suppose to replace Whiteside (they just traded)

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[Heat_Fan]

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I don't like that deal. Winlow has been paying well. Can't get rid of him just yet. And Bam is suppose to replace Whiteside (they just traded)

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But don't forget, Winslow began to play well and more consistent when he had the ball in his hands at PG. Now you have Butler, Herro and Waiters and possibly Nunn who will probably get a contract for his outstanding play in Summer League.

Bam, was untouchable in the Westbrook deal and more so in any Paul deal, factoring in that he's 3 yrs older than Russ.

But in reality, the math doesn't work because Miami is "hard-capped" due to the Butler sign and trade so Miami has to send out more than what Chris Paul is getting paid over the next 3 yrs. Something like Dragic, James Johnson, Waiters and possibly Winslow in return for 2 first rd picks and Chris Paul might work for Riley. But Riley right now has even more leverage with OKC than he did with the Westbrook deal and he backed away from their demands.