2019 Offseason Thread

[illwill10]

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

Durant expected to miss the entirety of the 2019-2020 season due to his ruptured achilles

https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/report-warriors-durant-expected-miss-entire-2019-20-season/

Gotta think this means he'll accept his player option and stay with the Warriors while he rehabs and go from there.

Unless a team wants to maxes him out and bank on him fully, it'll make sense to not lose out on money and rehab.
But I don't it will benefit Warriors at all. They wouldn't have been able to replace him if he left because of money tied of to death lineup. If he does opt in and Klay doesn't take pay cut, they are really strapped with cap space. There best bet would to be rely on MLE, smart draft picks, and Vets taking minimum all while KD is out knowing he is gone after the year is up

[King_B_Mack]

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So an angle I see everybody has just forgotten about and the talking heads are too busy pumping other stories of theirs with. Remember that Kyrie and Jimmy Butler wanted to team up together when they were both still in Cleveland and Chicago? If the Nets have the space to re-sign D’Lo and a max guy or let D’Lo walk and sign 2 max guys what about an off-season that plays out with Kawhi staying in Toronto, KD and Klay re-signing with GS, Kyrie and Jimmy signing with Brooklyn and LA shipping out Ball in an AD trade and signing D’Lo back to replace Ball?


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[ehh]

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Did it ever occur to anyone that the Lakers may trade for AD and then just fill out the rest of the roster with their cap space rather than going for another max player? I feel like all the discussions are about a big 3, but who's to say they won't just fill out the roster with 3/D guys or shooters alongside just LeBron + AD? That's probably a better move anyway, unless they can get Kawhi. If it's anyone else but Kawhi though, probably better to fill out with depth than chase another max player.

I'm assuming this is why they're so against moving Kuzma, who on an island would never a be dealbreaker when attempting to acquire a superstar, because he'd fit so well alongside LeBron and AD.

[illwill10]

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I'm assuming this is why they're so against moving Kuzma, who on an island would never a be dealbreaker when attempting to acquire a superstar, because he'd fit so well alongside LeBron and AD.

I agree.
I would save that cap for a PG and depth. PG-Hart-Bron-Kuz-AD is a good lineup.

[cima]

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I agree.
I would save that cap for a PG and depth. PG-Hart-Bron-Kuz-AD is a good lineup.

I wonder if that cap space could get them Dedmon and Beverley? Maybe even someone like Reddick too? That'd be a big win, don't know if all 3 would be possible though.

[jfsolo]

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Did it ever occur to anyone that the Lakers may trade for AD and then just fill out the rest of the roster with their cap space rather than going for another max player? I feel like all the discussions are about a big 3, but who's to say they won't just fill out the roster with 3/D guys or shooters alongside just LeBron + AD? That's probably a better move anyway, unless they can get Kawhi. If it's anyone else but Kawhi though, probably better to fill out with depth than chase another max player.

I can't speak to what the majority of Lakers fans out in the wild want, but a large percentage of Lakers fans on the net want that to happen. What's interesting is that maybe even more of those message boards posters want to eschew the AD trade, keep all the kids and the pick, and go after some other max player, and if that other max player can't be gotten, just spread the max money around to 2 or 3 high level role players.

[ojandpizza]

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I can't speak to what the majority of Lakers fans out in the wild want, but a large percentage of Lakers fans on the net want that to happen. What's interesting is that maybe even more of those message boards posters want to eschew the AD trade, keep all the kids and the pick, and go after some other max player, and if that other max player can't be gotten, just spread the max money around to 2 or 3 high level role players.

The thing is shipping out BI, Lonzo, pick nets them nearly the same amount of free cap as having AD does. So in the same scenario they could likely sign the same 2-3 guys .


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[cima]

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I can't speak to what the majority of Lakers fans out in the wild want, but a large percentage of Lakers fans on the net want that to happen. What's interesting is that maybe even more of those message boards posters want to eschew the AD trade, keep all the kids and the pick, and go after some other max player, and if that other max player can't be gotten, just spread the max money around to 2 or 3 high level role players.

Yeah I don't like the idea of the current team with high level role players. I'd consider that a last resort. I'd probably rank in terms of ideal scenarios:

1. LeBron + AD + Kawhi
2. LeBron + AD + Klay
3. LeBron + AD + Kuzma + spread cap on 3/D
4. Current team + spread cap on 3/D

I don't see a scenario where the current squad with new players but none being max-level makes them a title contender. Some guys are too caught up on Ingram/Zo's potential not realizing that neither one of them are ever going to be as good as AD is right now and AD is only 26, meaning he can still get better.

[ojandpizza]

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I wonder if that cap space could get them Dedmon and Beverley? Maybe even someone like Reddick too? That'd be a big win, don't know if all 3 would be possible though.

Unless all 3 of them went for significantly higher than they were paid this year they could get all 3 of those guys, another guy around the 6 mil a year mark, and still have the 9.whatever full MLE and the 3.whatever bi annual exception.

JJ might even take a cut to sign for more than one year. He’s signed one year deals the last two seasons, an injury away not getting guaranteed money.. example would be he played for 10 mil this season, maybe he would sign for 3 years at 6 or something, which guarantees him 18 million dollars instead of another 1 year that might only guarantee him 10mil.

I think that’s the card they play. If a trade goes down they can offer some of these guys a bit less per year but guarantee them 3 years. And that’s 3 years alongside LeBron and AD.


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[jfsolo]

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Yeah I don't like the idea of the current team with high level role players. I'd consider that a last resort. I'd probably rank in terms of ideal scenarios:

1. LeBron + AD + Kawhi
2. LeBron + AD + Klay
3. LeBron + AD + Kuzma + spread cap on 3/D
4. Current team + spread cap on 3/D

I don't see a scenario where the current squad with new players but none being max-level makes them a title contender. Some guys are too caught up on Ingram/Zo's potential not realizing that neither one of them are ever going to be as good as AD is right now and AD is only 26, meaning he can still get better.

I can't speak about other fan bases, but Lakers fans tend to fall head over heels with their own high draft picks. For some of them, they would use the cap space to try and get DLo and Randle back if they could.

[cima]

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I can't speak about other fan bases, but Lakers fans tend to fall head over heels with their own high draft picks. For some of them, they would use the cap space to try and get DLo and Randle back if they could.

Yeah I've seen proposals of trading LeBron for AD and then signing D'Lo, Randle, and Lopez just cause some still really don't like LeBron

[areobee401]

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

Steve Bulpett of the Boston Herald reports Boston Celtics free agent Kyrie Irving is preparing to join the Brooklyn Nets when free agency begins next month.

[3304Life]

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I would still take Kyrie back here in a heartbeat but if the Nets can pull off him and another first rate FA they’re looking real good.

[CMH]

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Steve Bulpett of the Boston Herald reports Boston Celtics free agent Kyrie Irving is preparing to join the Brooklyn Nets when free agency begins next month.

New York sports writers are beside themselves.

[TMagic]

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Nets have room for two max deals?