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  • ojandpizza
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    • Apr 2011
    • 29807

    #691
    Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by Smallville102001
    Well if you get Kemba and AD and have James that is a big 3 and BI or Kuzma I think are solid players and may became a all-star player them self and you say realistically all you need from your point guard thing but there is so many good point guards in the league that I think it is important to have a good point guard and not just a so so one and if you trade all the big 3 to get AD than you have AD and James but like nothing around them with out making a lot of other moves at least. I would take Kemba, AD, James and either BI or Kuzma any day that is a championship contender team right there.


    The problem is if they keep BI that whole scenario isn’t even possible. It might not even be possible with Kuzma. Without spending an hour trying to find the exact dollar amount they would basically have to renounce the rights of every player on the team, and trade away anyone under contract like Wagner for example to get the roster down to Bron, AD, Kuz, Hart.

    If that even got them to a max deal priorities should absolutely be Kawhi or Klay over Kemba or Kyrie.. but even if they maxed Kemba that would only leave them with minimum deals and a couple of exceptions to fill out the entire bench.

    That’s an injury away from being a first round exit team.


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    • jeremym480
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      • Oct 2008
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      #692
      Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

      OJ's posts about Kuzma's shooting sounds like my posts describing Smart's shooting prior to last season [emoji23]

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      • cima
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        • Sep 2004
        • 13478

        #693
        Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

        Originally posted by ojandpizza
        The problem is if they keep BI that whole scenario isn’t even possible. It might not even be possible with Kuzma. Without spending an hour trying to find the exact dollar amount they would basically have to renounce the rights of every player on the team, and trade away anyone under contract like Wagner for example to get the roster down to Bron, AD, Kuz, Hart.

        If that even got them to a max deal priorities should absolutely be Kawhi or Klay over Kemba or Kyrie.. but even if they maxed Kemba that would only leave them with minimum deals and a couple of exceptions to fill out the entire bench.

        That’s an injury away from being a first round exit team.


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        I've tried out all the different combos in 2K and as fun as it was with Kyrie or Kemba, that leaves LeBron or whoever the 2 guard is (Hart) to guard the other team's best perimeter player, which is less than ideal in 2019-2020. IMO their priority list for the max FA should be:

        - Kawhi
        - Klay
        - Jimmy

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        • King_B_Mack
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          • Jan 2009
          • 24450

          #694
          Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

          Originally posted by cima
          They are on the LeBron timeline right now...you don't waste another year of LeBron in his mid-30s. You gotta go all in now, which is the right move.



          Even Kobe said if Anthony Davis is available you have to go all-in to get him. Why would you bank on unproven guys just because they have potential when you have already proven one of the best players in the history of the game? Neither Zo nor Ingram has greater potential than what AD already is.



          The only negative about AD is he's not an iron man. But Zo and Ingram haven't stayed healthy in their short careers either so you can't use that as a positive in favoring them. If LeBron weren't in the picture, a Zo/Ingram/Kuzma/Hart core is not championship material and never will be. But some of those guys or even just one with LeBron and AD? Instant contender.


          Instant contender until they lose in the postseason and they’re all “trash” including AD and we’re back to the LeBron needs more help table.


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          • cima
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            • Sep 2004
            • 13478

            #695
            2019 Offseason Thread

            Originally posted by King_B_Mack
            Instant contender until they lose in the postseason and they’re all “trash” including AD and we’re back to the LeBron needs more help table.


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            Between this and you constantly rehashing the ‘Lakers verified sources” joke, you need some new material. [emoji41]

            Other than Wade, AD would instantly be LeBron’s best teammate he’s ever had


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            • King_B_Mack
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              • Jan 2009
              • 24450

              #696
              Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

              Originally posted by cima
              Between this and you constantly rehashing the ‘Lakers verified sources” joke, you need some new material. [emoji41]

              Other than Wade, AD would instantly be LeBron’s best teammate he’s ever had


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              Okay. Doesn’t matter we’ve seen this movie before. Repeatedly.

              Anyway Kyrie Irving just parted ways with his agent according to Woj. Kinda obvious Rich Paul hire is coming here right?


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              • 23
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                • Sep 2002
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                #697
                Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                Okay. Doesn’t matter we’ve seen this movie before. Repeatedly.

                Anyway Kyrie Irving just parted ways with his agent according to Woj. Kinda obvious Rich Paul hire is coming here right?


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                Boston's Kyrie Irving is expected to partner with ROC Nation Sports for representation, league sources tell ESPN.

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                • BleacherBum2310
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                  • Aug 2010
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                  #698
                  Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                  Originally posted by 23
                  Boston's Kyrie Irving is expected to partner with ROC Nation Sports for representation, league sources tell ESPN.

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                  welp I guess it's time to finally give up now.
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                  • georgiafan
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                    • Jul 2002
                    • 11112

                    #699
                    Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                    So why would NO want a proven player over the 4th pick ? Even though that player may not have massive potential in this draft still it’s a young cheap player.

                    Your looking at what the Capella, Aaron Gordon, Adams, Myles Turner, Josh Richardson types of the world ?


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                    • King_B_Mack
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                      • Jan 2009
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                      #700
                      Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                      Originally posted by 23
                      Boston's Kyrie Irving is expected to partner with ROC Nation Sports for representation, league sources tell ESPN.

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                      Yeah saw that. Surprising move. A signal to Brooklyn maybe?


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                      • Majingir
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                        • Apr 2005
                        • 47636

                        #701
                        Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                        Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                        Yeah saw that. Surprising move. A signal to Brooklyn maybe?


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                        Basically has to be.

                        Agencies are getting so powerful.

                        Boras controls MLB, Rich Paul/Lebrons agency starting to do same in NBA, and Jay-Z agency now getting Kyrie who could also wind up in Brooklyn?

                        Does Jay-Z go to GS games often? Or was he really there to get KD to join that agency too/go to Brooklyn?

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                        • areobee401
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                          • Apr 2006
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                          #702
                          Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                          KD’s current agent repped him at Roc Nation before the two of them left the form together.
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                          • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                            • Dec 2006
                            • 17294

                            #703
                            2019 Offseason Thread

                            Originally posted by ojandpizza
                            Another wrinkle in this... Boston isn't even allowed to make a trade until July 1st.. Technically something could be agreed upon in principal, but all reports have said the Pels want a deal in place by before the draft.

                            They also want a current all star, a guy with all star potential, and multiple first rounds picks.

                            I’m not saying Boston will trade for him, but at the end of the day, they’re going to have to sacrifice on something. If the sacrifice is ultimately that they tell Boston who to draft and then get that player a week later rather than drafting the player themselves, I think that’s the easiest thing to sacrifice.


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                            • King_B_Mack
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                              • Jan 2009
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                              #704
                              Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                              Bruh if the Bulls dump LaVine helping the Lakers get AD and we end up with Ball I might have to finally go punch GarPax in their faces.

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                              • georgiafan
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                                • Jul 2002
                                • 11112

                                #705
                                Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                                Lost in all the news yesterday was a rumor the Hornets are willing to give up a future 1st to trade up from 12. This makes no sense why they would do this.
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