Training Camp/Preseason Discussion Thread

[Vni]

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The Pel's are going to be annoying to play against.

[DamnYanks2]

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Ja is so explosive


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I get DRose vibes from him. Just not quite as reckless lol.

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[jeremym480]

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Side note, I do like the 7-11 nickname he gave himself and KD.

How original, I wonder where he got that from

Spoiler

http://www.celticslife.com/2017/08/7-11-is-closed-jaylen-brown-jayson.html

[bigeastbumrush]

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For someone who prides himself on philosophy and free thinking, Kyrie couldn’t have come up with something better than 7/11?

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Deni looked good. Knicks fans are probably going to regret choosing Toppin over him. Shooting with some playmaking and ballhandling for a 6'9 guy, and he's three years younger than Toppin? Sure sounds enticing right now.

To be fair, Deni has generally struggled with his shooting. He's always looked the part but the results have never been there. He was still a top 3-5 prospect in the draft for me at least though. Talented dude, and I know the Israeli league is pretty weak, but it's still always impressive to me when a teenager wins MVP of any professional league.

I think he or LaMelo should have been the Warriors pick (I would have taken LaMelo personally, but either would have been a good choice IMO).

[DamnYanks2]

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I still am not feeling the Lamelo hype. He's super young. But he's just never really moved the needle for me. I think Charlotte had to get him. So I get it.

But I'm not sold on him at all. Despite all the youtube stuff about him being able to knock down shots from half court and Curry range. He's not very efficient.

Still I think he does have good vision and alot of room to grow. But he's not gonna blow up imo. He's getting Zion level treatment. I don't ever see him being a superstar.

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[ProfessaPackMan]

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For someone who prides himself on philosophy and free thinking, Kyrie couldn’t have come up with something better than 7/11?

I mean that’s literally their numbers so what else should they be called?

The Fake Woke PG and Burner Account Boy? Lol

[georgiafan]

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I still am not feeling the Lamelo hype. He's super young. But he's just never really moved the needle for me. I think Charlotte had to get him. So I get it.

But I'm not sold on him at all. Despite all the youtube stuff about him being able to knock down shots from half court and Curry range. He's not very efficient.

Still I think he does have good vision and alot of room to grow. But he's not gonna blow up imo. He's getting Zion level treatment. I don't ever see him being a superstar.

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He isn't a elite scorer and isn't physical thats two major things that its hard to really teach when your talking about the elite level franchise players.

[DamnYanks2]

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He isn't a elite scorer and isn't physical thats two major things that its hard to really teach when your talking about the elite level franchise players.

He's doesn't really have much vert or quickness either. So you're hoping for a guy that will be an elite playmaker and become better offensively. I don't buy into it.

25% from three. 38% shooting overseas. Do scouts think that's gonna dramatically improve?



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[J_Posse]

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He's doesn't really have much vert or quickness either. So you're hoping for a guy that will be an elite playmaker and become better offensively. I don't buy into it.

25% from three. 38% shooting overseas. Do scouts think that's gonna dramatically improve?



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They mostly peg it on his lack of strength & poor shot selection.

Yet, everything thing y'all mentioned, plus his odd shooting form & horrendously bad defense give me pause. I see a lot of flashiness in his game, which is great for the highlight reel & ticket sales, but don't see him becoming anything too great.

I see him as a taller version of Jason Williams or maybe, maybe Pistol Pete if he can hone in on his scoring output.

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[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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I still am not feeling the Lamelo hype. He's super young. But he's just never really moved the needle for me. I think Charlotte had to get him. So I get it.

But I'm not sold on him at all. Despite all the youtube stuff about him being able to knock down shots from half court and Curry range. He's not very efficient.

Still I think he does have good vision and alot of room to grow. But he's not gonna blow up imo. He's getting Zion level treatment. I don't ever see him being a superstar.

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He's doesn't really have much vert or quickness either. So you're hoping for a guy that will be an elite playmaker and become better offensively. I don't buy into it.

25% from three. 38% shooting overseas. Do scouts think that's gonna dramatically improve?

Just my two cents since I was the one saying Golden State should have taken him. I don't think he's a lock to be a star by any means. There's a pretty decent chance he never becomes the shooter that some scouts expect him to be and never becomes the defender that he has the tools and instincts to be, and if both of those things occur, he's likely an empty stats guy (i.e. putting up numbers but being a net-negative player).

But I think he had the most natural talent in the draft, I think he's a great fit in a ball-movement based system like the Warriors have despite the potential shooting woes, and for a team like Charlotte, he was a no-brainer of a pick because at minimum he's going to be a very entertaining player.

Re: scouts thinking he can develop his shooting, I remember ESPN's scouts (DraftExpress + Kevin Pelton) put out scouting reports with attributes and everything for all the prospects and they had LaMelo listed as an average shooter in the NBA from Day 1 with the potential to be one of the best shooters in the league, so yeah, some scouts think he has a lot of potential there. I do tend to think he has natural shooting touch already but the mechanics are a mess; not a mess like Lonzo's where it makes it impossible for him to shoot off the dribble, but a mess where it makes it a lot more difficult to shoot with consistency. They basically believe his ceiling is to be the best passer in the NBA while also being one of the best shooters and ball-handlers.

[bigeastbumrush]

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So basically..he’s Lonzo. Lol.

[King_B_Mack]

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[ProfessaPackMan]

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I think LaMelo will be fine.

Fans be too quick to put ceilings/limitations on players, lol. It’s not like he’s been annoited the second coming of Steph or Stockton or Hardaway.

[jeebs9]

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I think LaMelo will be fine.

Fans be too quick to put ceilings/limitations on players, lol. It’s not like he’s been annoited the second coming of Steph or Stockton or Hardaway.

I say it all the time. Give these guys their time.