2020 Offseason Thread

[georgiafan]

Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

Here is my take on Atlanta I was going to quote some post, but they were a few of them.

Once again I'm the odd ball and the only hawks fan on twitter that doesn't think this is the greatest offseason of all time. King was spot on we basically sacrificed the future and sold our sole and the dream scenario is making it to the 2nd round of the playoffs. In reality its maybe a 6th seed and a 1st round exit to one of the heavy weights.

Its nice to have depth we haven't had that in forever however now its overkill. It's not from the standpoint of 1 position being overloaded its we have 11 guys that need playing time. The 3 young wings now are going to take a step back even if your able to find 20+ minutes for them they become like 5th options instead of 3rd. Everyone says just make a trade well if Hunter averages 8 points a game at the deadline nobody is going to want him.

The additions of Bogdan by itself I'm fine with he is a quality player on a fair market deal. Clint is basically a offseason addition as he has yet to play a game. Those guys both are young enough to be a part of this team for several years to come and are locked up for a long time.

The same goes for Dunn he could be a long term bench role player and his defense is greatly needed. The problem is Rondo going to be ok getting DNP on a worse team then last year? Because you can't give both of them minutes.

Ok I gotta get back to work I'll post about how much I hate the Gallo move later lol. I did see where his 3rd year isn't fully guaranteed I've not heard the exact amount yet

[allBthere]

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I don't know much about the business aspects of contracts and major sports - BUT as a Raps fan I was hoping we would have grabbed Hayward once he declined his option.

I really think it would have been an awesome fit and I understand they didn't try/seem interested. He can get 20/game consistently, handles the ball well and makes good decisions - I remember first seeing him backboard reject lebron and posterize some people early in his career and was like 'who is this videogame nerd lol' Anyway I think the raps are stuck again with adding just a couple of big bodies at C. Siakam is good but not as great as some people push, Hayward would have allowed him to be PF more where I think he's best closer to the paint and using his post moves. Now it'll be like last year where he'll try to get 20-25/gm and next up is a daily question as to 'who's got it that night'. Lowry, FVV or Norm and OG. They need a consistent scorer at the wing imo.

Moving to Charlotte, I was looking at their lineup and think he'll be a great fit there. Assuming he's healthy he'll be a good influence there more like the Utah days and be the focal point. I think he'll be 22-25ppg guy and make others around better too and bring in the young guys like ball along. At first I didn't get it, but when you look at the actual roster they improved a lot and I think they'll now be a solid playoff team.

The bucks I think they got worse lol, so we'll see how that goes.

[jeremym480]

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Agree it's my only problem with the whole situation. Players like Kevin Huerter, DeAndre Hunter and Cam Reddish. Who I thought made some strides last season. [ATTACH]185382[/ATTACH]

Clint Capela is going to be a very busy man with the rest of the starting 4.

Overall, I do like their potential though, but I like it more with Gallo as the 6th-man. I think they'll be able to hang with most teams in the East scoring-wise but it's the defense that I would worry about.

Here is my take on Atlanta I was going to quote some post, but they were a few of them.

Once again I'm the odd ball and the only hawks fan on twitter that doesn't think this is the greatest offseason of all time. King was spot on we basically sacrificed the future and sold our sole and the dream scenario is making it to the 2nd round of the playoffs. In reality its maybe a 6th seed and a 1st round exit to one of the heavy weights.

Its nice to have depth we haven't had that in forever however now its overkill. It's not from the standpoint of 1 position being overloaded its we have 11 guys that need playing time. The 3 young wings now are going to take a step back even if your able to find 20+ minutes for them they become like 5th options instead of 3rd. Everyone says just make a trade well if Hunter averages 8 points a game at the deadline nobody is going to want him.

The additions of Bogdan by itself I'm fine with he is a quality player on a fair market deal. Clint is basically a offseason addition as he has yet to play a game. Those guys both are young enough to be a part of this team for several years to come and are locked up for a long time.

The same goes for Dunn he could be a long term bench role player and his defense is greatly needed. The problem is Rondo going to be ok getting DNP on a worse team then last year? Because you can't give both of them minutes.

Ok I gotta get back to work I'll post about how much I hate the Gallo move later lol. I did see where his 3rd year isn't fully guaranteed I've not heard the exact amount yet

Hey man, at least they'll be a fun team to use in 2K! Both on the court and continuing to build on the roster (lots of nice assets and moveable contracts if you want to go after a bigger fish). These moves definitely made them a must-watch League Pass team, as well.

[jeebs9]

Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

Here is my take on Atlanta I was going to quote some post, but they were a few of them.

Once again I'm the odd ball and the only hawks fan on twitter that doesn't think this is the greatest offseason of all time. King was spot on we basically sacrificed the future and sold our sole and the dream scenario is making it to the 2nd round of the playoffs. In reality its maybe a 6th seed and a 1st round exit to one of the heavy weights.

Its nice to have depth we haven't had that in forever however now its overkill. It's not from the standpoint of 1 position being overloaded its we have 11 guys that need playing time. The 3 young wings now are going to take a step back even if your able to find 20+ minutes for them they become like 5th options instead of 3rd. Everyone says just make a trade well if Hunter averages 8 points a game at the deadline nobody is going to want him.

The additions of Bogdan by itself I'm fine with he is a quality player on a fair market deal. Clint is basically a offseason addition as he has yet to play a game. Those guys both are young enough to be a part of this team for several years to come and are locked up for a long time.

The same goes for Dunn he could be a long term bench role player and his defense is greatly needed. The problem is Rondo going to be ok getting DNP on a worse team then last year? Because you can't give both of them minutes.

Ok I gotta get back to work I'll post about how much I hate the Gallo move later lol. I did see where his 3rd year isn't fully guaranteed I've not heard the exact amount yet

That's why the Rondo signing makes like zero sense to me. Kris Dunn could still be really good. Having 4 wings didn't hurt.

Clint Capela is going to be a very busy man with the rest of the starting 4.

Overall, I do like their potential though, but I like it more with Gallo as the 6th-man. I think they'll be able to hang with most teams in the East scoring-wise but it's the defense that I would worry about.



Hey man, at least they'll be a fun team to use in 2K! Both on the court and continuing to build on the roster (lots of nice assets and moveable contracts if you want to go after a bigger fish). These moves definitely made them a must-watch League Pass team, as well.

LMAO bright side at least we have 2K lol. Post of this thread

[ojandpizza]

Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

I completely disagree. Nobody knows if the Hawks are a first round exit, second exit, or championship level team until we see what Hunter, Cam, Trae can develop in to. They should easily be fighting for the last two playoff spots in the league this year but most importantly whether they are 7th seed, 8th seed, miss the playoffs they are going to be playing meaningful basketball in games that matter at the end of this season, and learning good winning habits from guys like Rondo and Gallo along the way. That alone sets them up better for the next season than drafting another 6th pick.

Sure some young guys will sacrifice some touches and minutes, but you’re never going to know their value until they are doing more than getting decent stats on a bottom 5 team. Trae’s shot selection is never going to improve if there is nobody for him to play off of, nobody to defer to. Nobody who’s ready to share the burden.

Developing young players isn’t always about playing them as many minutes as possible and not caring if the team is *** along the way. You also want them to learn how to win. I don’t think Atlanta sacrificed their future, their future is already on the roster and they made the type of moves you need to make to prepare those guys to be able to play winning basketball.

And you never know what the ceiling is for this team. They already have a 30 a night scorer on the team, he’s a better more efficient scorer right now then Iverson was as the MVP. If he keeps improving and the other young guys do as well who’s to say they can’t be one of the best teams in the East within the next couple of years? Or pull off upsets. Nobody was ****ting on Boston for having guys like Morris, Bradley, Horford, Kyrie, It, Hayward, to play alongside their trio of young studs.. seems silly to think a team is doing something wrong by getting better..

And personally, I’ve watched enough Memphis games in the 20 years since they’ve moved there to know I would much rather have a team competing in the playoffs and winning games regardless of which round they exit than a team drafting top 5 every year. You can never predict anything; injuries, breakout years, hell I watched Memphis knock off a 1 seed first round. I hate this “it’s the worst thing in basketball to be an early exit team”. You don’t even know if you’re an early exit team or not if you’re never good enough to make it in the first place...


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[bigeastbumrush]

Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

Which it really shouldn't considering they're a second round exit at best. I will never understand teams and fans (not talking about you btw, just fans in general) that are just happy to make the playoffs. Building a team primed for mediorcrity is the absolute worst place to be in the NBA. In this league you either need to be a team that's a legitimate contender who has the pieces in place to actually get out of your conference and win a title or at least not be slaughtered if you make the Finals. Or be a garbage team that misses the playoffs and has a legit shot at the top 5 draft selections. Anything inbetween is a waste of everyone's time and NBA no man's land. The Hawks seem to have building largely irrelevant, average, mediocre teams good for the 4th through 6th seed in the east down to a science. It's cool to be in that spot for a year, maybe 2 as a stop on your core's growth, but this team like previous Hawk teams project to perpetually be in that range which does absolutely nothing for them or their fans. Here's hoping it works out for them, but as of right now, I can't see it without someone developing into a superstar because they're cap situation moving forward doesn't suggest any superstar signings. That and big time free agents don't go to Atlanta either.



Yeah I was distracted by the dog and baby as I was typing and totally didn't realize until I read the post for the first time just a few minutes ago that I typed AD instead of Giannis lol

Teams who perennially miss the playoffs at some point need to start winning just to get out of that loser’s mentality especially when you have a young roster.

With a player like Trae in the playoffs..absolutely anything can happen.

What I would hate is to be a team like Boston who are expected to go far because they drafted well and signed quality free agents but can’t crack the ECFs.

It’s different when there are no expectations.

[georgiafan]

Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

The Rondo thing I'll never understand its awful fit because you can't play him and Trae together because of defense. We'll see if he can get through to Trae. I can get a 1 year deal just not a 2. I assume he will be getting the minutes Dunn should be.

That's why the Rondo signing makes like zero sense to me. Kris Dunn could still be really good. Having 4 wings didn't hurt. LMAO bright side at least we have 2K lol. Post of this thread

Clint can only do so much I have a feeling he will be the scape goat. Even if you have Cam on the court to help him out them two alone isnt' enough. The only way it has a shoot of working is if Gallo is the 6th man I'll expand on that more when i get the time.

lol yea we did become a fun 2k team however Cam is still criminally under rated at 73 overall it should be 77ish. I believer Huerter could be a little higher also.

Clint Capela is going to be a very busy man with the rest of the starting 4.

Overall, I do like their potential though, but I like it more with Gallo as the 6th-man. I think they'll be able to hang with most teams in the East scoring-wise but it's the defense that I would worry about.



Hey man, at least they'll be a fun team to use in 2K! Both on the court and continuing to build on the roster (lots of nice assets and moveable contracts if you want to go after a bigger fish). These moves definitely made them a must-watch League Pass team, as well.

[King_B_Mack]

Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

Woj: Hassan Whiteside agrees to a 1 year deal with the Sacramento Kings


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[illwill10]

Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

"Free agents still available

Reggie Jackson
Shabazz Napier
Chris Chiozza
Tyler Johnson
Evan Turner
Gary Payton II
Yogi Ferrell
Emmanuel Mudiay
J.J. Barea
Brandon Knight

Shaquille Harrison
Courtney Lee
Jordan McRae
Dion Waiters
Troy Daniels
Jamal Crawford
Marco Belinelli
Glenn Robinson
Kyle Korver
Thabo Sefolosha
Alize Johnson
Malcolm Miller
Treveon Graham
Andre Roberson
Ersan Ilyasova
Frank Kaminsky
Taj Gibson
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Noah Vonleh
DeMarre Carroll
Jared Dudley
Cheick Diallo
Bruno Caboclo
Anthony Tolliver
Bismack Biyombo
John Henson
Skal Labissiere
Tyson Chandler
Kyle O'Quinn
Caleb Swanigan
Ian Mahinmi
Thon Maker
Norvel Pelle"

[ojandpizza]

Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

"Free agents still available

Reggie Jackson
Shabazz Napier
Chris Chiozza
Tyler Johnson
Evan Turner
Gary Payton II
Yogi Ferrell
Emmanuel Mudiay
J.J. Barea
Brandon Knight

Shaquille Harrison
Courtney Lee
Jordan McRae
Dion Waiters
Troy Daniels
Jamal Crawford
Marco Belinelli
Glenn Robinson
Kyle Korver
Thabo Sefolosha
Alize Johnson
Malcolm Miller
Treveon Graham
Andre Roberson
Ersan Ilyasova
Frank Kaminsky
Taj Gibson
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Noah Vonleh
DeMarre Carroll
Jared Dudley
Cheick Diallo
Bruno Caboclo
Anthony Tolliver
Bismack Biyombo
John Henson
Skal Labissiere
Tyson Chandler
Kyle O'Quinn
Caleb Swanigan
Ian Mahinmi
Thon Maker
Norvel Pelle"

I don't know if you're the same person who keeps occasionally posting these lists, but I appreciate these so I don't have to go digging around for them lol. Thanks.

[illwill10]

Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

I don't know if you're the same person who keeps occasionally posting these lists, but I appreciate these so I don't have to go digging around for them lol. Thanks.

Not too many options that might get decent play time.
I think the next dominoes to fall are potential trades. With Training camp being next week, not sure teams would do many trades closer to tipoff of season

[jeebs9]

Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

lol yea we did become a fun 2k team however Cam is still criminally under rated at 73 overall it should be 77ish. I believer Huerter could be a little higher also.

Relax there. Your tipping into OJ and Cima territory. Lol jk. I'd say 75 max.

I don't know if you're the same person who keeps occasionally posting these lists, but I appreciate these so I don't have to go digging around for them lol. Thanks.

Totally agree. Keep it coming!

[The 24th Letter]

Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

Woj: Hassan Whiteside agrees to a 1 year deal with the Sacramento Kings


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Going back to where it all started.

Hopefully he can get his mind right there.

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[ojandpizza]

Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

Going back to where it all started.

Hopefully he can get his mind right there.

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I was wondering if you were ever coming back to the NBA side lol


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[J_Posse]

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Going back to where it all started.

Hopefully he can get his mind right there.

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I thought he was solid in Portland & gives Sacramento good depth with either him or Holmes starting.

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