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  • JazzMan
    SOLDIER, First Class...
    • Feb 2012
    • 13547

    #136
    Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by cima
    This will probably sound like a post from Pack (lol) but do we even know if Luka is acting entitled or is this all speculation?
    2 days ago it was reported that Luka had friction with the front office, Cuban said it was "bull****" then proceeded to fire everybody in the front office and letting Carlisle go, who was in shouting matches with Luka frequently in the postseason

    I dont think it's speculation at all. Why else would Cuban fire everyone? Why else would Carlisle walk away from a 22-year-old superstar on a franchise that has cap space to build around him properly?

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    • Master Live 013
      Hall Of Fame
      • Oct 2013
      • 12425

      #137
      Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

      But if Luka is calling the shots why fire Donnie Nelson who apparently Doncic likes? But if he is indeed "calling the shots" to whatever extent, part of the "reasons" are that we are in the Player Empowerment Era (TM) and LeBron wasn't.

      LeBron must be so proud, seeing Luka use the power that LeBron basically single handedly created.
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      • DieHardYankee26
        BING BONG
        • Feb 2008
        • 10178

        #138
        Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

        Jordan taking it personally seeing LeBron given credit for this when he was making more than the entire salary cap in his day.
        Originally posted by G Perico
        If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
        I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
        In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
        The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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        • King_B_Mack
          All Star
          • Jan 2009
          • 24450

          #139
          Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

          Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
          Jordan taking it personally seeing LeBron given credit for this when he was making more than the entire salary cap in his day.
          Really though? Criminally under paid Jordan for all but 2 years of his career?

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          • Master Live 013
            Hall Of Fame
            • Oct 2013
            • 12425

            #140
            Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

            One always build on the shoulders of your predecessors. But it is as if LeBron created the Trade Machine all by himself.
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            • DieHardYankee26
              BING BONG
              • Feb 2008
              • 10178

              #141
              Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

              Originally posted by King_B_Mack
              Really though? Criminally under paid Jordan for all but 2 years of his career?

              What does that have to do with anything?
              Originally posted by G Perico
              If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
              I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
              In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
              The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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              • ehh
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2003
                • 28962

                #142
                Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

                Originally posted by Master Live 013
                But if Luka is calling the shots why fire Donnie Nelson who apparently Doncic likes?
                Cuban's ego is way too big for him to give in to a player and clean house, even if that player is Luka.

                Carlisle to MIL would be kinda weird, it's basically a crappier version of Dallas' situation, though it is a fresh start. He has ties to Boston, wouldn't surprise me if he ends up there.
                "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

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                • ProfessaPackMan
                  Bamma
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 63852

                  #143
                  Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

                  Originally posted by JazzMan
                  2 days ago it was reported that Luka had friction with the front office, Cuban said it was "bull****" then proceeded to fire everybody in the front office and letting Carlisle go, who was in shouting matches with Luka frequently in the postseason

                  I dont think it's speculation at all. Why else would Cuban fire everyone? Why else would Carlisle walk away from a 22-year-old superstar on a franchise that has cap space to build around him properly?

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                  Cuban fired them or did they all mutually decide to part ways?

                  Because those are 2 different things and in which case, it’s speculation. But this whole “Luka is diva” because of this? Lol no. Unless of course there’s actual proof that he told Cuban “I’m not signing any extension unless you let these people go”.
                  #RespectTheCulture

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                  • JazzMan
                    SOLDIER, First Class...
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 13547

                    #144
                    Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

                    Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                    Cuban fired them or did they all mutually decide to part ways?

                    Because those are 2 different things and in which case, it’s speculation. But this whole “Luka is diva” because of this? Lol no. Unless of course there’s actual proof that he told Cuban “I’m not signing any extension unless you let these people go”.
                    Screenshot_20210617-193444_Reddit.jpg

                    Luka's a diva man lol i don't know what to tell you.

                    Regardless, for Cuban to switch his stances in TWO DAYS, going from "there's no legitimacy in that report" to just letting everybody leave, mutual or not, is absolutely concerning

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                    • Master Live 013
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 12425

                      #145
                      Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

                      I see that as more of frustration with Bob (Haralabos Voulgaris) than Carlisle. If Donnie and Carlisle are out, then Voulgaris must certainly won't have his contract renewed. Either way, complete house clearing.
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                      • King_B_Mack
                        All Star
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 24450

                        #146
                        Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

                        Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
                        What does that have to do with anything?
                        What? You bring up Jordan in something that had absolutely nothing to do with him with a dumb *** take about salary for someone who didn't make more than 4 million dollars back during a time that the salary cap was only about 14 or 15 million dollars before his team finally had no choice but to pay him what he's worth and you're asking me what the fact he was criminally underpaid for almost his entire career has to do with anything? Come on now

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                        • DieHardYankee26
                          BING BONG
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 10178

                          #147
                          Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

                          Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                          What? You bring up Jordan in something that had absolutely nothing to do with him with a dumb *** take about salary for someone who didn't make more than 4 million dollars back during a time that the salary cap was only about 14 or 15 million dollars before his team finally had no choice but to pay him what he's worth and you're asking me what the fact he was criminally underpaid for almost his entire career has to do with anything? Come on now
                          Yeah because him being criminally underpaid doesn’t have anything to do with him using his position as the star to bend the team over and get what he wanted unless you believe he wouldn’t have done it even if he weren’t criminally underpaid, the same way it doesn’t matter whether LeBron’s teams were criminally mismanaged or not. Leverage had already been figured out by the time LeBron was in the league, he didn’t invent anything.
                          Originally posted by G Perico
                          If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                          I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                          In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                          The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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                          • DieHardYankee26
                            BING BONG
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 10178

                            #148
                            Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

                            I hope Fiz’s name pops up in some of these coaching vacancies. I remember when he was fired such illustrious coaches as Carlisle, Pop, and Kerr all felt so strongly that he had been unfairly let go that they had to speak on it. Hopefully now Carlisle will recommend Fiz for his former position, or Pop or Kerr will step down to let him take over for them.
                            Originally posted by G Perico
                            If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                            I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                            In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                            The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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                            • Junior Moe
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 3869

                              #149
                              Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

                              Originally posted by cima
                              Didn't Brad Stevens only interview minorities? Would be a complete joke to hire Carlisle after that.
                              I dont think so. Carlisle has won a championship and had Dallas on the brink of knocking off a title favorite. I feel like you owe it to your organization to give him a look. Of course see how Tatum and Brown feel but you have to give Carlise a look.

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                              • ProfessaPackMan
                                Bamma
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 63852

                                #150
                                Re: 2021 Offseason Thread

                                Originally posted by JazzMan
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                                Luka's a diva man lol i don't know what to tell you.

                                Regardless, for Cuban to switch his stances in TWO DAYS, going from "there's no legitimacy in that report" to just letting everybody leave, mutual or not, is absolutely concerning

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                                PLENTY of players have yelled at Coaches in game, lol.

                                Like others have said, Cuban’s ego is too big to let some any player start having a day or run **** on the team. And yes, this is concerning…for Cuban because that’s not like to cave to ANY player’s demand and I doubt he’s about to let some 20 y/o who hasn’t accomplished ****(yet)start now.
                                #RespectTheCulture

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