2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Shams reporting the Knicks, Lakers, Wizards and Blazers are among the teams pursuing Pistons’ Jerami Grant.

Also says the Hawks have “gained momentum” in discussions involving the Sixers and Simmons.

[Master Live 013]

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If the Blazers extend Lillard they deserve everything that's coming their way.

[ojandpizza]

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Shams reporting the Knicks, Lakers, Wizards and Blazers are among the teams pursuing Pistons’ Jerami Grant.

Also says the Hawks have “gained momentum” in discussions involving the Sixers and Simmons.

I really don't understand that Grant move for any of those teams.

Is the hope for the Knicks to bring him off the bench, or just go really small with he/Randle at the 5, or move on from Fournier and move RJ to he 2 and just play really big? Such a weird fit for them. Thibs love guys who defend but he seems so far off from what they actually need. He's a worse Randle playing the same position as Randle.

For the Lakers at least he would commit them to a front court of Bron/Grant/AD and he's a solid defender who can space the floor. He would likely be what they wanted from Ariza only better, but it still doesn't fix their biggest problems of not having a wing/guard type that can do anything at all consistently. A trade for Grant signals they are fine with committing to Monk being their best wing player by decent margin.. mehhh I only see that making sense if it's part of a larger move with Westbrook going out(not likely at all).

Wizards just have an absolute logjam of guys at the 3/4 spot. I don't know how the minutes would even disperse. All of Kuz, KCP, Deni, Kispert, Rui, Bertans get minutes at the 3 or 4. Bertans has been awful and Rui has been out all year, but I'm not moving on from Rui, Bertans, Kispert this early for a player like Grant. Maybe you make that move for an All-Star caliber guy, but not for Grant.

Blazers he could likely start and have a big role, but I don't get the motive there. Like he would be better than Covington because he's been a huge disappointment, but he's not going to transform that team into somethin it's not. They surely wouldn't trade Simons and with no intriguing young players that means they would be moving picks or overpaying and sending a guy like CJ. I don't see the justification for them to do that only to fight for a play-in spot. Doesn't make sense.

[illwill10]

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Shams reporting the Knicks, Lakers, Wizards and Blazers are among the teams pursuing Pistons’ Jerami Grant.

Also says the Hawks have “gained momentum” in discussions involving the Sixers and Simmons.

I just think there are better packages than what Atlanta can offer. Reddish has high upside, but is still very raw. He's better off going to a team would allow him to develop, not thrust into a team looking to contend. I like Gallo and his contract is semi-expiring, but I like what Niang has brought us so far. Collins would bring size, energy, athleticism Sixers desperately needs. But, I'm not 100% on the fit alongside Embiid and you would HAVE to trade Tobias(which I'm all for lol) to even consider Collins. Also wonder if he benefits from having a playmaker like Trae, because he sure wouldn't have that in Philly.

The problem with most of the interested teams would need a 3rd team to either absorb a bad contract or offer Sixers a piece that fits better. They're not getting an A-level player unless they play the long game(which I don't want to chance). I'm more than okay with multiple B- Level players who fill multiple needs that makes us a complete team. Our main 2 needs are a PG who can facilitate, initiate offense, and spaces the court. And a Tall Athletic 2-Way wing who can create his own shot. I'm still for moving Tobias and a first for whatever they can get.

[ojandpizza]

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What about something like Collins/Cam/Wright for a Ben to Atlanta, and Tobias + whatever to get a guy like LeVert or Hield or *insert other name*? Obviously lots of picks/cash filler to be mixed in but I could see Philly being on board with about anything if they could keep Joel, Maxey, and Curry.

[illwill10]

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What about something like Collins/Cam/Wright for a Ben to Atlanta, and Tobias + whatever to get a guy like LeVert or Hield or *insert other name*? Obviously lots of picks/cash filler to be mixed in but I could see Philly being on board with about anything if they could keep Joel, Maxey, and Curry.

That seems better. Maybe throw Cam and Tobias to Kings for Barnes, that seems like the better fit. Maxey-Curry-Barnes-Collins-Embiid seems like a good starting lineup. Danny Green's contract could be used as a salary filler, Shake and Furkan should have decent value on the trade market. Wright-Thybulle-*insert wing*-Niang-Drummond would be a good bench. Sixers current problem is that when Joel leaves the court, the offense falls off a cliff if shots aren't falling.

I just dont like idea of waiting until the offseason and hoping a superstar asks out. I don't want to waste a prime year from Joel. Every time Joel falls and doesn't immediately get up, everyone still holds their breath lol.


Morey is trying to "win' the trade. At this point, you have to take the best deal available that both helps them now and makes them a complete team

[illwill10]

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Wonder what the price of Brandon Ingram would be? That's one of the players, I would for love for the Sixers. It would have to be a 3 team deal obviously and still a situation where you would need to trade Tobias because of fit, but I think Ingram would be a better fit alongside Embiid than Zion.

I feel Pelicans should shut down Zion and allow him to get fully healthy and conditioned better. But, the problem for them is that since the bottom of the West is so weak, Pelicans still have realistic shot at Play-In if Zion comes back healthy(enough). Teams 10-14 are all within 2 games of each other. I'm sure they're all for fighting for Play-In. But for long term, I wouldn't risk his long term health just for the chance to get knocked off in the Play-In

[georgiafan]

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For Atlantas side As much as I love Ben next to trae. I don’t think I want to trade Collins for him. You also have a major fit problem with Ben and Clint playing at the 4/5. John is shooting 42% from 3 this year.

Pelicans being sellers would probably be what I would do since they also have a lottery protected 1st and Zion isn’t coming back. I’m not sure if they are willing to do that.

[illwill10]

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For Atlantas side As much as I love Ben next to trae. I don’t think I want to trade Collins for him. You also have a major fit problem with Ben and Clint playing at the 4/5. John is shooting 42% from 3 this year.

Pelicans being sellers would probably be what I would do since they also have a lottery protected 1st and Zion isn’t coming back. I’m not sure if they are willing to do that.

I say that because I think Ingram could be had for the right price. There's not many players who are truly "untouchable". Like before the last season, I wouldn't have said Embiid was untouchable. There were already discussions about whether Zion and Brandon fit together.

What about a three team deal involving SAC, NO, and PHI. Ben to SAC, Fox to NO, and Ingram to Philly. Add in players here and there, but I think that's a trade that benefits all three teams. Ben would fit well alongside Mitchell, Haliburton, and Barnes. A future pairing of Zion, Fox, Jonas V could do well surrounded by shooters. Ingram could be a legit #2 next to Embiid after a subsequent Tobias trade

[jfsolo]

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I say that because I think Ingram could be had for the right price. There's not many players who are truly "untouchable". Like before the last season, I wouldn't have said Embiid was untouchable. There were already discussions about whether Zion and Brandon fit together.

What about a three team deal involving SAC, NO, and PHI. Ben to SAC, Fox to NO, and Ingram to Philly. Add in players here and there, but I think that's a trade that benefits all three teams. Ben would fit well alongside Mitchell, Haliburton, and Barnes. A future pairing of Zion, Fox, Jonas V could do well surrounded by shooters. Ingram could be a legit #2 next to Embiid after a subsequent Tobias trade

Would Morey's ego feel that Ingram is good enough for that deal to happen?

[georgiafan]

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That seems like solid framework to me

I say that because I think Ingram could be had for the right price. There's not many players who are truly "untouchable". Like before the last season, I wouldn't have said Embiid was untouchable. There were already discussions about whether Zion and Brandon fit together.

What about a three team deal involving SAC, NO, and PHI. Ben to SAC, Fox to NO, and Ingram to Philly. Add in players here and there, but I think that's a trade that benefits all three teams. Ben would fit well alongside Mitchell, Haliburton, and Barnes. A future pairing of Zion, Fox, Jonas V could do well surrounded by shooters. Ingram could be a legit #2 next to Embiid after a subsequent Tobias trade

[illwill10]

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Would Morey's ego feel that Ingram is good enough for that deal to happen?

That's the issue lol. Morey has his eyes set on particular players and he wants to "win" the trade. I do think Ingram can be an "All-Star caliber player" like he mentioned before. I like Dame and would take him now, but he'll be 32 next season and I'm not for giving him that supermax extension. I never been a fan of Harden's game and he'll be 33. With Joel's health always being a concern, a Harden deal will literally just be a 2 year window. Beal is the one guy of Morey's preferred players, I would be all for. But, I think the outcome with Beal is that he goes to FA and stays in Washington then asks for a trade a year later

I think Ingram good enough. That's a deal that does benefit all 3 teams. But, if he's waiting on a Mega deal that he "wins", that's a pipedream. Ingram is in position where he could be an All-Star if he was on a winning team and is in Joel's window. A lot of these other deals involve young ascending players who aren't in Embiid’s timeline or guys who could be good complementary players. Ingram could be a legit #2

[illwill10]

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That seems like solid framework to me

You might have to add pieces to deal, but that seems like a fair deal. All 3 are essentially are at the same point of their rookie extensions. I think Ingram could be 25-30 point scorer. When you are on a bad team in a small market, it's easy to get overlooked when you don't have the "star power".

[georgiafan]

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76ers trying to include Harris in a trade with Ben (i'm sure they are lol)

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/265407/76ers-Trying-To-Include-Tobias-Harris-In-Trade-Of-Ben-Simmons

[Majingir]

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What do people think Dragics value is given that he doesn't want to be on the Raptors, Raptors dont want him, and they dont want to buy him out either, but he would still be a solid role player for a team?

Late 1st? 2nd? Cap dump + pick?