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  • bigbob
    MVP
    • Sep 2007
    • 10471

    #646
    Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

    Originally posted by ggsimmonds
    Obviously a negative work environment can create mental health problems.

    Thats not what happened here. If anything it was the other way around -- his mental health issues created the negative work environment. Not just for him, but for others as well.



    There's a bit of a difference between getting out of a negative situation to improve your mental health versus practicing avoidance which long term hurts your mental health. I think Ben did the latter.
    And I agree that the work environment did not create his mental health problems, but because of his actions, it made it worse. He helped create the problems that rose from Doc and Embiid's comments.

    All he had to do was show up for the offseason, practice, anything, and this would not even be an issue. But he waited for the most opportune time to pull the mental health card, which makes his mental health problems seem.. untrue.

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    • ggsimmonds
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jan 2009
      • 11235

      #647
      Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

      Originally posted by bigbob
      And I agree that the work environment did not create his mental health problems, but because of his actions, it made it worse. He helped create the problems that rose from Doc and Embiid's comments.

      All he had to do was show up for the offseason, practice, anything, and this would not even be an issue. But he waited for the most opportune time to pull the mental health card, which makes his mental health problems seem.. untrue.

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      Quite a few people in my life have their fights with mental health. One thing I've noticed is that often times before they get treatment and real help is that they often struggle with accountability and can be somewhat toxic.

      I believe the mental health problems are real. But maybe Ben thinks its untrue if you get my meaning

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      • georgiafan
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jul 2002
        • 11099

        #648
        Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

        Since making the trade for C.J and everyone once again praising the move. New Orleans has lost 4 of 5 and are currently the 12th seed. Zion's injury appears to be getting worse and the best they can hope for is to win a playin game and still be stuck with a team that doesn't fit and no 1st round pick
        Last edited by georgiafan; 02-18-2022, 11:18 AM.
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        • DieHardYankee26
          BING BONG
          • Feb 2008
          • 10178

          #649
          Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

          Originally posted by georgiafan
          Since make the trade for C.J and everyone once again praising the move. New Orleans has lost 4 of 5 and are currently the 12th seed. Zion's injury appears to be getting worse and the best they can hope for is to win a playin game and still be stuck with a team that doesn't fit and no 1st round pick

          Originally posted by G Perico
          If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
          I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
          In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
          The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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          • DieHardYankee26
            BING BONG
            • Feb 2008
            • 10178

            #650
            2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

            CJ (teammate and president of the NBAPA) said he hasn’t talked to Zion directly, only to people close to him, and he knows as much about the situation as the rest of us. How many draft picks need to be added to Julius Randle and Immanuel Quickley to get this done? Asking for a friend.
            Originally posted by G Perico
            If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
            I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
            In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
            The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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            • ojandpizza
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2011
              • 29807

              #651
              Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

              Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
              CJ (teammate and president of the NBAPA) said he hasn’t talked to Zion directly, only to people close to him, and he knows as much about the situation as the rest of us. How many draft picks need to be added to Julius Randle and Immanuel Quickley to get this done? Asking for a friend.

              Damn is Zion really that checked out?

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              • bigeastbumrush
                My Momma's Son
                • Feb 2003
                • 19245

                #652
                Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
                CJ (teammate and president of the NBAPA) said he hasn’t talked to Zion directly, only to people close to him, and he knows as much about the situation as the rest of us. How many draft picks need to be added to Julius Randle and Immanuel Quickley to get this done? Asking for a friend.

                Wondering if Zion is damaged goods at this point.

                To think that him simply losing weight and being motivated will bring him to that #1 pick caliber at this point is sketchy.

                Everything says he’s in no rush to put that Pelicans jersey back on. But I’m wondering what he’s got to give since I can’t recall the last time I’ve seen him play.

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                • jeebs9
                  Fear is the Unknown
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 47568

                  #653
                  Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                  Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
                  Wondering if Zion is damaged goods at this point.

                  To think that him simply losing weight and being motivated will bring him to that #1 pick caliber at this point is sketchy.

                  Everything says he’s in no rush to put that Pelicans jersey back on. But I’m wondering what he’s got to give since I can’t recall the last time I’ve seen him play.
                  Huh?... Zion is a force. That's why all this talk of him vs Ja is total BS. He causes problems for pretty much anyone he faces.



                  He basically commands a double team.
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                  • jfsolo
                    Live Action, please?
                    • May 2003
                    • 12965

                    #654
                    Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                    Originally posted by jeebs9
                    Huh?... Zion is a force. That's why all this talk of him vs Ja is total BS. He causes problems for pretty much anyone he faces.



                    He basically commands a double team.
                    Hopefully for New Orleans the Knicks or some other front office feels how you feel and will give up the whole candy store for him. I agree that he's not going to put in the work to be that guy for the Pelicans organization.
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                    • ojandpizza
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 29807

                      #655
                      Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                      Originally posted by jeebs9
                      Huh?... Zion is a force. That's why all this talk of him vs Ja is total BS. He causes problems for pretty much anyone he faces.



                      He basically commands a double team.

                      I mean at the time of this video sure, nobody has any idea what he would look like right now. And though they were on to something with using him more like a wing/guard (Giannis role) it’s nothing we’ve been able to witness translate to winning basketball necessarily either.

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                      • bigeastbumrush
                        My Momma's Son
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 19245

                        #656
                        Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                        Originally posted by jeebs9
                        Huh?... Zion is a force. That's why all this talk of him vs Ja is total BS. He causes problems for pretty much anyone he faces.



                        He basically commands a double team.

                        We’re approaching the one year anniversary for this video.

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                        • jeebs9
                          Fear is the Unknown
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 47568

                          #657
                          Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                          Originally posted by ojandpizza
                          I mean at the time of this video sure, nobody has any idea what he would look like right now. And though they were on to something with using him more like a wing/guard (Giannis role) it’s nothing we’ve been able to witness translate to winning basketball necessarily either.
                          Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
                          We’re approaching the one year anniversary for this video.
                          So a year later and Zion is a shell of himself? Wow [emoji23]
                          Hands Down....Man Down - 2k9 memories
                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IHP_5GUBQo

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                          • ggsimmonds
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 11235

                            #658
                            Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                            Originally posted by jeebs9
                            So a year later and Zion is a shell of himself? Wow [emoji23]
                            When this video exists since then? Maybe

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                            • DieHardYankee26
                              BING BONG
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 10178

                              #659
                              Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                              Me ignoring his body and focusing on his face when he sees RJ: IM IN!
                              Originally posted by G Perico
                              If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                              I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                              In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                              The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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                              • jeebs9
                                Fear is the Unknown
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 47568

                                #660
                                Re: 2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

                                Originally posted by ggsimmonds
                                When this video exists since then? Maybe

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2bYA8DoeWE
                                Again stop looking at this gotcha footage. This is like everyone falling for those photoshopped pictures of him. Let's stop playing these games. You have to expect he's coming back to be himself. He's only 21 years old.
                                Hands Down....Man Down - 2k9 memories
                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IHP_5GUBQo

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