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[ggsimmonds]

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Why folks assuming he grew up privileged?

What are the giveaways?

Not privileged in the broader sense, he just didn't have to go through the struggles of street life. He grew up middle class. Both parents went to college and they owned a home. He grew up in Dalzell which is a very small town.

I know as a white dude I may be on dangerous ground here because often its veiled racism. But I came up from Curtis Bay and Cherry Hill. I hate when county cats claim the city, like when a dude claim Baltimore but is from Glen Burnie knowing damn well they ain't going to go too far down Church St. And Ja Morant acting up in his own house and punking mall security guards and playing like he got stripes. I mean dude hit a kid at his house, walked inside and came back out with a gun in his waistband? You put on a gun in your pants like you are on the block in your own damn house?? Thats clown **** man.

Maybe it bothers me more because I am white but struggled coming up, and people see me (master's degree and a good income) and assume I'm your run of the mill white suburban dude. Then a see a guy making millions (good for him, not hating on that) that never saw or went through the things I went through but he's out there playing make believe like he did.

I probably shared way too much lol but yeah thats where I'm coming from

[dubcity]

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[emoji38] Oh man, I can't stop laughing [emoji38]

So wrong.

Particularly funny in the context of the recent "what is a woman" and "birthing people" nonsense in the news.

[Jeffx]

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Not privileged in the broader sense, he just didn't have to go through the struggles of street life. He grew up middle class. Both parents went to college and they owned a home. He grew up in Dalzell which is a very small town.

I know as a white dude I may be on dangerous ground here because often its veiled racism. But I came up from Curtis Bay and Cherry Hill. I hate when county cats claim the city, like when a dude claim Baltimore but is from Glen Burnie knowing damn well they ain't going to go too far down Church St. And Ja Morant acting up in his own house and punking mall security guards and playing like he got stripes. I mean dude hit a kid at his house, walked inside and came back out with a gun in his waistband? You put on a gun in your pants like you are on the block in your own damn house?? Thats clown **** man.

Maybe it bothers me more because I am white but struggled coming up, and people see me (master's degree and a good income) and assume I'm your run of the mill white suburban dude. Then a see a guy making millions (good for him, not hating on that) that never saw or went through the things I went through but he's out there playing make believe like he did.

I probably shared way too much lol but yeah thats where I'm coming from

Good stuff. And as I've heard Ice-T, MC Eiht (and others) say many times, that lifestyle is not to be played with, especially when you're high-profile and have more to lose (MC Eiht - "Being a gangsta is not a fashion statement.")

Eddie House pretty much echoed what Shannon said;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3LBdqsLcN8&t=121s

[The 24th Letter]

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Reddit thread that just about sums it up.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comment...at_was_listed/


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[ProfessaPackMan]

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Not privileged in the broader sense, he just didn't have to go through the struggles of street life. He grew up middle class. Both parents went to college and they owned a home. He grew up in Dalzell which is a very small town.



I know as a white dude I may be on dangerous ground here because often its veiled racism.

In regards to the first part of your post: Don’t you think that’s perpetuating a dangerous and negative stereotype of what you think black families look like? Because he had both parents and they owned a home means they grew up good or didn’t have to worry about anything? To me, that’s almost kinda ignorant(I’m not calling you ignorant, I’m talking about the thought process)especially when you already know people have pre conceived notions about us as a whole.

And yeah you were cutting it close, which was why I asked that question. If it was still Black History Month, I probably would’ve went it even more [emoji23]

[King_B_Mack]

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Yeahhhhhh both my parents worked and were married my whole life until my mom passed a few years ago. My mom went on disability in the early 90's but my dad was a construction worker for a big company here that worked on a lot of high rises downtown and even did the White Sox's stadium. Grew up on the west side of Chicago in a neighborhood that wasn't really great, but wasn't bad either (an elementary school is right across the street from the house so that helped a lot), my parents bought the house back in the 70's and we still own it. Financially I grew up straight. Absolutely by no means was anything else about life struggle free considering all that. Definitely a dangerous game to run with google search of where somebody grew up or how many parents were or weren't involved in the upbringing to try to decide someone's life experience.

[bigeastbumrush]

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Acting like he can’t be a square because he grew up in a rough neighborhood is laughable.

A lot of star athletes get a pass coming up because the real street cats and older ones know that they have something and don’t want to mess that up for them (unless they are just jealous).

My guess is Ja was never about that life.

[King_B_Mack]

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Acting like he can’t be a square because he grew up in a rough neighborhood is laughable.

A lot of star athletes get a pass coming up because the real street cats and older ones know that they have something and don’t want to mess that up for them (unless they are just jealous).

My guess is Ja was never about that life.

Who exactly is doing that tho? I see you’re good with the broad brush painting tho. Not all “the real street cats” give athletes passes and doesn’t all have to do with jealousy. Athletes is catching bullets out here just like everybody else bruh.



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[bigeastbumrush]

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Who exactly is doing that tho? I see you’re good with the broad brush painting tho. Not all “the real street cats” give athletes passes and doesn’t all have to do with jealousy. Athletes is catching bullets out here just like everybody else bruh.



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I wasn’t the one bringing up his neighborhood as if that somehow validates his reputation.

Athletes catching bullets but some think Ja is the athlete AND the shooter..lol.

As far as I know he’s never had a criminal record and if he was really with the business..his past would’ve come up already.

[The 24th Letter]

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Who exactly is doing that tho? I see you’re good with the broad brush painting tho. Not all “the real street cats” give athletes passes and doesn’t all have to do with jealousy. Athletes is catching bullets out here just like everybody else bruh.



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Absolutely no one.

Surprised it needs to be said, but not everyone has a mugshot and Ron Artest table leg story ready to share proving they grew up in a tough environment


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[King_B_Mack]

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I wasn’t the one bringing up his neighborhood as if that somehow validates his reputation.

Athletes catching bullets but some think Ja is the athlete AND the shooter..lol.

As far as I know he’s never had a criminal record and if he was really with the business..his past would’ve come up already.

The hell are you even talking about at this point?


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[bigeastbumrush]

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The hell are you even talking about at this point?


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[emoji849]

Ja getting into trouble once he got into the league. Hard to follow?

[King_B_Mack]

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[emoji849]

Ja getting into trouble once he got into the league. Hard to follow?

Yes extremely since the conversation in here was someone saying that he couldn't possibly be tough or street or whatever you want to call it because of his neighborhood he grew up in and having two parents that went to college and owned a house. Only thing that happened after that was Pack, myself and Two-Four pointing out that it's sterotypical, ignorant and not the most accurate/wise thing to try to disqualify someone's life experiences based on how nice the neighborhood they grew up in is or isn't along with what their families financial class is. You chose to come in here loud and wrong talking about something nobody even said. Might want to look at yourself on that question about things being hard to follow

[ggsimmonds]

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In regards to the first part of your post: Don’t you think that’s perpetuating a dangerous and negative stereotype of what you think black families look like? Because he had both parents and they owned a home means they grew up good or didn’t have to worry about anything? To me, that’s almost kinda ignorant(I’m not calling you ignorant, I’m talking about the thought process)especially when you already know people have pre conceived notions about us as a whole.

And yeah you were cutting it close, which was why I asked that question. If it was still Black History Month, I probably would’ve went it even more [emoji23]

Let me put it back to you, what part of my quoted post gives any indication of what I think black families look like?

I'm not questioning his blackness, black families are as diverse as white families. I'm questioning whether toting around a pistol and threatening people is something he feels he has to do because of the environment he came up in, or is it something he chose to do because he thinks he wants that lifestyle?

"Because he had both parents and they owned a home means they grew up good or didn’t have to worry about anything?"
Not what I said. Everyone has worries, and he may not have grew up "good."

[ggsimmonds]

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I'll probably leave it at that as any further talk on the matter would probably go downhill even further. I took issue with labeling my post as stereotypical or ignorant and started typing a response, but I read it before hitting submit and realized nothing good would come of it.

Pack if you want to reply via DM thats cool but as far as the thread goes I'm gonna stick to hoops talk for now