February Games Discussion Thread

[jfsolo]

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A bust LMAO? At least the man is getting minutes. Let's start there. I keep repeating it. Getting hurt is one thing. It's because he didn't fit the Warriors. Hahaha my guess is the Kings will come back to earth. It's funny how much Russell has changed since the Russell change.

One of the things I noticed right off the back was AD getting a few of his alley oops in the half court. That's huge for them.

AD needs to be getting 3 or 4 of those oops every game. It lets him not have to use so much energy trying to get his own shot and I feel like it helps him get into a better rhythm on those times when he does look for his own off the bounce.

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[ojandpizza]

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Really like this new squad.

Beasley and Bamba missed a few wide open ones that statically should have dropped too. Could probably add Bron as well, though his shot has been all over the place this year. But adding 9-12 points of shots like that would have had them looking very damn impressive last night. Would have likely kept the Pelicans from ever cutting into that lead too.

Feels weird that Walker was starting and had a decent start to the season when the rest of the team was ***. His role would have regressed some without the trade because Dennis returned from injury, but now he's basically stuck to the end of the bench with Davon Reed completely out of the rotation.

I'm sure Walker will still have some value against smaller teams, or as injury insurance, but it makes sense now that Brown gets his minutes. He's a bit longer on defense, he's shooting excellent from three as of late, but I feel like if you watch him his most important trait now is he's the guy who finds open corner (as a shooter I mean, not passer). And he's knocking them down. IDK how long he sustains it, but 46% from 3 overall in 7 games of Feb, and 38% over the last 36 games. It feels like he's the guy that's developing that glue-guy type of fit the most, always finding openings in the corners like a Shane Battier, PJ Tucker type. And making them for now.

Rui is the most awkward fit. He kind of has that old-school ability to just create a midrange jumper whenever he wants. It's almost like his lone value is getting the ball when there is like 5 seconds left on the shot clock or something lol. He doesn't do anything else at a particularly above average level, Vanderbilt has a much higher motor and much better defensive instincts.

[ojandpizza]

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Lol this is getting ridiculous. Might as well make every team acknowledge it before the beginning of their games for the rest of the year.

https://twitter.com/legionhoops/status/1625938779038154752?s=46&t=rxDQBE4zayJ8FRqexf3n9w

1. Yes, breaking the record was/is a huge deal.
2. No, we don’t need 10 days of recognition for breaking it.

You're right, we need more like 20 lol..

I can't decide if this is weird or not, it's the All-Star game. I guess I'll see when it happens. But it felt more weird to me that they just stopped playing with 10 seconds left in the quarter than giving him recognition at the AS game. But you know all this is happening again once he plays in his retirement year too, so we're just doing this all over again in a couple of years?

[cam21224]

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They made the right moves, moves that will definitely help this team next year regardless when they actually have games, practices, and off-season together. They just waited too long.

Love what I saw last night, but the best part of it all is not having to see Gabriel playing a bulk of minutes.

[dubcity]

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Lol this is getting ridiculous. Might as well make every team acknowledge it before the beginning of their games for the rest of the year.

https://twitter.com/legionhoops/status/1625938779038154752?s=46&t=rxDQBE4zayJ8FRqexf3n9w

1. Yes, breaking the record was/is a huge deal.
2. No, we don’t need 10 days of recognition for breaking it.

It's probably going to be way worse than you are imagining lol. It'll be the story of the weekend, because the media needs something more than just an all-star for whatever reason.

[georgiafan]

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A bad way to end the break for Atlanta with a losses to Hornets and a blowout to NY. A uphill battle to get out of the playin.

[King_B_Mack]

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A bust LMAO? At least the man is getting minutes. Let's start there. I keep repeating it. Getting hurt is one thing. It's because he didn't fit the Warriors. Hahaha my guess is the Kings will come back to earth. It's funny how much Russell has changed since the Russell change.

One of the things I noticed right off the back was AD getting a few of his alley oops in the half court. That's huge for them.

I think it’s fair to call him a bust.

If a top 5 pick in the draft doesn’t make it to a second contract with the team that drafts them because they get traded (not them leaving in free agency) doesn’t that automatically make them a bust?


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[ggsimmonds]

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A bust LMAO? At least the man is getting minutes. Let's start there. I keep repeating it. Getting hurt is one thing. It's because he didn't fit the Warriors. Hahaha my guess is the Kings will come back to earth. It's funny how much Russell has changed since the Russell change.

One of the things I noticed right off the back was AD getting a few of his alley oops in the half court. That's huge for them.

With where they are in the standings, for the Kings to fall so far in order for the Lakers to replace them in the playoff field coming down to earth would be a huge understatement.

[ojandpizza]

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I think it’s fair to call him a bust.

If a top 5 pick in the draft doesn’t make it to a second contract with the team that drafts them because they get traded (not them leaving in free agency) doesn’t that automatically make them a bust?


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I don’t know how we can label anybody a bust until we know they aren’t going to have a successful career.

I guess it depends what we are calling a bust, but expecting a 19 year old to come in and make the plays you want a vet to make on a contender isn’t exactly fair either. I mean we don’t see contenders trying to add a bunch of 19 and 20 year olds to compliment their stars over guys with experience to understand the game at the NBA level.

He might be a bust at some point, but now? At 21 years old? Thats way too early.

Also Mike Miller, Harden, Favors, Porzingis, DLo, Brandon Ingram, Elton Brand, Lamar Odom, Mike Bibby, Billups, Antonio Daniels, Camby, Marbury.. just a short list of top 5 picks that all got traded from the team who drafted them within the first 2-3 years.

Dude has plenty of time to have a great career. Billups signed with Minnesota for his second deal in what would already be the 4th team he had played for in that time. Dude went on to make All-Star teams, All-NBA teams, All-defensive teams, and a finals MVP lol.

Obviously it’s not super common, but it’s also not super common for a team that went to 5 straight finals to land a top 2 pick either. I understand the “if he can’t make it on the Warriors” talk, but I also see the other side where it doesn’t make sense to expect a 19 year old kid (who also had an injury) to be able to immediately play the role of a complimentary veteran either.

[ProfessaPackMan]

February Games Discussion Thread

I think it’s fair to call him a bust.

If a top 5 pick in the draft doesn’t make it to a second contract with the team that drafts them because they get traded (not them leaving in free agency) doesn’t that automatically make them a bust?


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Ehh not necessarily and we have a few examples in the last 5-6 years that’ll say otherwise.

Because we damn sure aren’t calling Lonzo, Ingram, Favors, DLo, Harden “busts” lol

Each situation is always gonna be different.

Edit: OJ pretty much took my post as I had this typed out but didn’t hit submit right away lol

Obviously it’s not super common, but it’s also not super common for a team that went to 5 straight finals to land a top 2 pick either. I understand the “if he can’t make it on the Warriors” talk, but I also see the other side where it doesn’t make sense to expect a 19 year old kid (who also had an injury) to be able to immediately play the role of a complimentary veteran either.

I’m always interested in the “why didn’t it work there” when they get traded. And even in that case, there’s always plenty of factors at play, including ones that WE don’t necessarily see.

[roadman]

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Depending on severity of wrist injury, I'm sure Giannis is out of the AS game and perhaps beyond.

Edit-Hearing Wrist Sprain. Put some dirt on it. lol

I keep forgetting they call everything a sprain out of the gate. duh

[King_B_Mack]

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I don’t know how we can label anybody a bust until we know they aren’t going to have a successful career.

I guess it depends what we are calling a bust, but expecting a 19 year old to come in and make the plays you want a vet to make on a contender isn’t exactly fair either. I mean we don’t see contenders trying to add a bunch of 19 and 20 year olds to compliment their stars over guys with experience to understand the game at the NBA level.

He might be a bust at some point, but now? At 21 years old? Thats way too early.

Also Mike Miller, Harden, Favors, Porzingis, DLo, Brandon Ingram, Elton Brand, Lamar Odom, Mike Bibby, Billups, Antonio Daniels, Camby, Marbury.. just a short list of top 5 picks that all got traded from the team who drafted them within the first 2-3 years.

Dude has plenty of time to have a great career. Billups signed with Minnesota for his second deal in what would already be the 4th team he had played for in that time. Dude went on to make All-Star teams, All-NBA teams, All-defensive teams, and a finals MVP lol.

Obviously it’s not super common, but it’s also not super common for a team that went to 5 straight finals to land a top 2 pick either. I understand the “if he can’t make it on the Warriors” talk, but I also see the other side where it doesn’t make sense to expect a 19 year old kid (who also had an injury) to be able to immediately play the role of a complimentary veteran either.

Ehh not necessarily and we have a few examples in the last 5-6 years that’ll say otherwise.

Because we damn sure aren’t calling Lonzo, Ingram, Favors, DLo, Harden “busts” lol

Each situation is always gonna be different.

Edit: OJ pretty much took my post as I had this typed out but didn’t hit submit right away lol



I’m always interested in the “why didn’t it work there” when they get traded. And even in that case, there’s always plenty of factors at play, including ones that WE don’t necessarily see.

There's a negative connotation with the word bust and I get why that is. However being a bust doesn't mean you can eventually become the player that you were originally projected to be or a good player with a long career. It's not a death knell to your career. But by the very nature of you being a top 5 draft pick you're being drafted at that position of the draft to be a franchise player. If you're getting traded before hitting the end of that rookie contract outside of a Andrew Wiggins situation you are a wasted draft pick for the team that drafted you. That's the definition of being a bust. Again, doesn't mean you can't bounce back from that and become a good player in the league and in some cases a great player, but you were in fact a bust.

[DamnYanks2]

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[King_B_Mack]

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Bucks don't need Giannis for this Bulls light work

[jeebs9]

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There's a negative connotation with the word bust and I get why that is. However being a bust doesn't mean you can eventually become the player that you were originally projected to be or a good player with a long career. It's not a death knell to your career. But by the very nature of you being a top 5 draft pick you're being drafted at that position of the draft to be a franchise player. If you're getting traded before hitting the end of that rookie contract outside of a Andrew Wiggins situation you are a wasted draft pick for the team that drafted you. That's the definition of being a bust. Again, doesn't mean you can't bounce back from that and become a good player in the league and in some cases a great player, but you were in fact a bust.

Do you consider Harrison Barnes a bust?

I've repeated this so many times. First were still within the incubation zone (the first 5 years). This one might hurt. But are Markkanen and Carter Jr are bust?

Give these young man a chance to grow.

The word Bust should never be mentioned.

The one thing I don't understand is the math. I don't know the stats. But how many lottery picks become all stars. So if you picked in the top 5 and don't make the All Star team in the fire l first 8 years your a bust? I know that's not what your saying. What's the baseline lol?

Bucks don't need Giannis for this Bulls light work

I was just about to post this. I've already moved away from this game [emoji23]

Anthony Edwards he's unstoppable at times.