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  • l3ulvl
    Hall Of Fame
    • Dec 2009
    • 17228

    #46
    Re: Second Half of the Season March-April Regular Season Discussion

    What happened with the clock at the end of the Pistons game? I was running around celebrating the game winner and then ahh crap there's still 0.6 left. Then, nope, game over


    ESPN bottom line didn't say buzzer beater, it said GW in final second. I'm not complaining lol, just confused
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    • Vni
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2011
      • 14832

      #47
      Re: Second Half of the Season March-April Regular Season Discussion

      I'am catching up the Lakers game, I'am at the first quarter, watching Luka drop 20 and a couple of assists in 8 minutes and I can't help but think Nico Harrison what have you done?

      Maybe the Lakers end up losing that game but man this is special.

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      • illwill10
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2009
        • 19791

        #48
        Re: Second Half of the Season March-April Regular Season Discussion

        I do wonder if the NBA will try to de-incentivize tanking more next season. Besides resting healthy guys, you are seeing bad teams rest their best players in crunchtime or whole 4th quarters to lose games. Even as a Sixers fan, not like they are resting guys. They have guys like Grimes and Yabusele trying to secure bigger contracts and other guys are trying to secure rotation minutes next year. But, I do think they need to find a reason to officially sit Maxey for last 12 games. Nurse said a week ago that Maxey should be back soon. It's like they never keep him informed of the lies to say to media lol

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        • Master Live 013
          Hall Of Fame
          • Oct 2013
          • 12327

          #49
          Re: Second Half of the Season March-April Regular Season Discussion

          Yeah, I think this year has been bad. Basically it has been optimized, everyone knows what the "right" play is, the teams, the players, the media and the fans so everyone goes through the motions. Wouldn't want to be the guy in charge of "solving" this issue at the league office.
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          • illwill10
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2009
            • 19791

            #50
            Re: Second Half of the Season March-April Regular Season Discussion

            Originally posted by Master Live 013
            Yeah, I think this year has been bad. Basically it has been optimized, everyone knows what the "right" play is, the teams, the players, the media and the fans so everyone goes through the motions. Wouldn't want to be the guy in charge of "solving" this issue at the league office.
            What else can they really do. Already flatten the lottery odds and fining the teams hasn't stopped it. For a team with a lottery protected pick owed to another team like the Sixers, there is no incentive to win or even try to bring back Maxey.


            I guess maybe moving a team's pick back to the end of the round if they get penalized 3 or so times. I get resting healthy guys. How do they penalize teams that are Quiet-Quitting. Teams like Raptors and Jazz have sat their best guys in crunch time of games to ensure a loss.

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            • Master Live 013
              Hall Of Fame
              • Oct 2013
              • 12327

              #51
              Re: Second Half of the Season March-April Regular Season Discussion

              Nothing comes to mind on what the league could, the only thing I can think of is that Wheel idea that Zach Lowe came up years ago, and that was a bit out there

              Man, I just looked up the article and that's from 2013. Definitely made feel incredibly old

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              • Master Live 013
                Hall Of Fame
                • Oct 2013
                • 12327

                #52
                Re: Second Half of the Season March-April Regular Season Discussion

                No doubt it solves the tanking issue, it just create the "what if the 73 wins Warriors got Wemby" issue
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                • Majingir
                  Moderator
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 47442

                  #53
                  Re: Second Half of the Season March-April Regular Season Discussion

                  I think a weighted system might help.

                  Still have the draft lottery, but odds are determined based on weighted finishes from the last 3 seasons.

                  So a team might have 15 wins now, but had 30 last year and 40 the year before. That's a higher average than the team who has 25 now, but 20 last year and 25 the year before.

                  Teams will still suck for a few years at a time, but I don't think it'll be as bad when it comes to tanking/resting guys because a single game likely isn't having as much an impact on the weighted win total compared to if this was a standalone win total where 20 gets you 4th odds and 22 gets you 5th odds.


                  But speaking of shameless tanking...Raptors,76ers,Nets are currently on a combined 10 game losing streak.

                  The bottom 7 in the league are currently on a combined 19 game losing streak (29 if you include the Heat who are the 8th worst right now).
                  Last edited by Majingir; 03-23-2025, 09:17 PM.

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                  • illwill10
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 19791

                    #54
                    Re: Second Half of the Season March-April Regular Season Discussion

                    Originally posted by Majingir
                    I think a weighted system might help.

                    Still have the draft lottery, but odds are determined based on weighted finishes from the last 3 seasons.

                    So a team might have 15 wins now, but had 30 last year and 40 the year before. That's a higher average than the team who has 25 now, but 20 last year and 25 the year before.

                    Teams will still suck for a few years at a time, but I don't think it'll be as bad when it comes to tanking/resting guys because a single game likely isn't having as much an impact on the weighted win total compared to if this was a standalone win total where 20 gets you 4th odds and 22 gets you 5th odds.


                    But speaking of shameless tanking...Raptors,76ers,Nets are currently on a combined 10 game losing streak.

                    The bottom 7 in the league are currently on a combined 19 game losing streak (29 if you include the Heat who are the 8th worst right now).
                    The tanking we're going to see from Nets, Philly, Raptors is going really shameless in the last 11-12 games. All 3 are fighting for the 5th spot with a lot of losable games. Nets and Raptors face each twice and it's both must lose games in order not to win the season series. Philly can't finish with outside of Top 6 and Maxey hasn't been ruled out. I could see him coming back and winning them unnecessary games


                    Miami Heat is interesting. Not only does OKC is owed Philly's pick if it isn't top 6, OKC is owed Miami's lottery protected pick. So, does Miami join the tank race to keep their pick

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                    • illwill10
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 19791

                      #55
                      Re: Second Half of the Season March-April Regular Season Discussion

                      Speaking of tanking, Pelicans are resting CJ Mccollum, Zion's out, Bruce Brown and Missi. So, Philly is matching that will keeping Maxey, Oubre, and Walker out. Grimes is out for Rest. This will be an ugly game. Yabusele has been off lately. They will need Justin Edwards or Jared Butler to go off to win lol

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                      • Majingir
                        Moderator
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 47442

                        #56
                        Re: Second Half of the Season March-April Regular Season Discussion

                        Originally posted by illwill10
                        Speaking of tanking, Pelicans are resting CJ Mccollum, Zion's out, Bruce Brown and Missi. So, Philly is matching that will keeping Maxey, Oubre, and Walker out. Grimes is out for Rest. This will be an ugly game. Yabusele has been off lately. They will need Justin Edwards or Jared Butler to go off to win lol
                        Speaking even more about tanking...

                        Raptors and Wizards don't have too many guys sitting, yet at the half they have a combined 102 points shooting 35% from the field and 23% from 3.

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                        • illwill10
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 19791

                          #57
                          Re: Second Half of the Season March-April Regular Season Discussion

                          Originally posted by Majingir
                          Speaking even more about tanking...

                          Raptors and Wizards don't have too many guys sitting, yet at the half they have a combined 102 points shooting 35% from the field and 23% from 3.
                          It's funny how tight these tanking race is for a lot of these teams. Obviously the Sixers, Nets, Raptors for 5th seed. Pelicans and Hornets are neck and neck on for the 3rd seed. Both of those teams are close the Wizards who are fighting with Jazz for the first pick. We're in the must lose part of the season for these bottom 7 teams.



                          We'll see how it goes in the 4th quarter for the Raptors and Wizards.

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                          • Majingir
                            Moderator
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 47442

                            #58
                            Re: Second Half of the Season March-April Regular Season Discussion

                            Originally posted by illwill10
                            It's funny how tight these tanking race is for a lot of these teams. Obviously the Sixers, Nets, Raptors for 5th seed. Pelicans and Hornets are neck and neck on for the 3rd seed. Both of those teams are close the Wizards who are fighting with Jazz for the first pick. We're in the must lose part of the season for these bottom 7 teams.



                            We'll see how it goes in the 4th quarter for the Raptors and Wizards.
                            All of this and the lottery is likely changing a lot of it.

                            The worst team has never won the lottery under the new format after 4 years in a row of it happening before the new format.

                            2nd and 3rd teams have won it 4 of the 6 years.

                            Despite that, some of these teams don't have the best track records with winning the lottery.

                            Only time the Raptors won the lottery was 2006 when they went in with the 5th best odds and took Bargnani.

                            Last time Nets won, they had 7th best odds and took Kenyon Martin.

                            Wizards are 50/50 on theirs, getting John Wall last time, but Kwame Brown the time before.

                            Hornets and Jazz have never won the lottery.

                            If the Raptors don't win it, I wouldn't mind seeing the Hornets win it just for the sake of seeing if we can finally have a good Charlotte Hornets team.

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                            • illwill10
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 19791

                              #59
                              Re: Second Half of the Season March-April Regular Season Discussion

                              Originally posted by Majingir
                              All of this and the lottery is likely changing a lot of it.

                              The worst team has never won the lottery under the new format after 4 years in a row of it happening before the new format.

                              2nd and 3rd teams have won it 4 of the 6 years.

                              Despite that, some of these teams don't have the best track records with winning the lottery.

                              Only time the Raptors won the lottery was 2006 when they went in with the 5th best odds and took Bargnani.

                              Last time Nets won, they had 7th best odds and took Kenyon Martin.

                              Wizards are 50/50 on theirs, getting John Wall last time, but Kwame Brown the time before.

                              Hornets and Jazz have never won the lottery.

                              If the Raptors don't win it, I wouldn't mind seeing the Hornets win it just for the sake of seeing if we can finally have a good Charlotte Hornets team.
                              Wasn't it something with the Detroit Pistons having the worse record for a long stretch recently and kept ending up outside the top 4 or at least not getting it. But, I'm glad to see the Pistons turn it around this year.



                              The only reason I would want Sixers to win the lottery, is that I think Flagg would be either be a good fit with current roster or apart of a roster reset that includes dumping Embiid and George. Besides Flagg, I don't know anything about any prospect. I have watched some March Madness games. But, I do not want to even look at a mock draft or prospect analysis unless Sixers officially lands in the top 6. I like Flagg and definitely think he's worth the first pick. But for me, he's more of a higher floor than higher ceiling. He's has high IQ, great feel for the game, facilitator/play initiator, get the rim/draw fouls, does a good job of off ball cutting, shown improvement on 3pt, rebound, and defend well. But, I don't know if his defense is as elite as it was touted coming out of the HS. He's a good overall defender, but don't know if he's a lockdown defender. While Flagg has the potential to be a 3 level scorer and some post work in his bag, I don't know if he's a 28-32 point scorer in the league.



                              If not Philly, I wouldn't mind seeing the Hornets win the lottery. Barring health, that would be a nice roster. Ball-Miller-Bridges-Flagg-Williams. That would be a good starting lineup with the shortest guu being 6'7. Have to continue improving depth and they're still likely going to trade Williams. But, they're a team that could go from #1 pick to being in the Play-in



                              I do see changes with lottery being needed. I don't want to see teams that are blatantly tanking get rewarded, but it's not stopping them from trying.

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                              • illwill10
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 19791

                                #60
                                Re: Second Half of the Season March-April Regular Season Discussion

                                Gotta say, Sixers got this tanking thing down. Gave up 45 first quarter points to the the 15 win Washington team. if they're able to lose this game, only other games they're in danger of winning is another game against Wiz and Raptors.

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