***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

[l3ulvl]

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Just heard we hired Phil Jackson as a consultant for the coaching search. Expected to be a short-term position. Weird.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/ken-berger/22184043/phil-jackson-joins-pistons-to-consult-on-coaching-hire

[redsrule]

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Just heard we hired Phil Jackson as a consultant for the coaching search. Expected to be a short-term position. Weird.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/ke...-coaching-hire

I saw that. If it helps us get a good coach i'm all for it.

[rdnk]

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I saw that. If it helps us get a good coach i'm all for it.

Maybe they can convince him to stay on with the front office or something. With all the coach turnover with the Pistons, Dumars can use all the help he can get. I imagine Shaw will get involved as one of his targets. I doubt Jackson will want to coach here in Detroit, and honestly I think it would be more fun if he went to coach the Clippers.

[djvio_lator]

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I'd love to see the Pistons go after Jerry Sloan or one of the Van Gundys, but of course, Dumars won't do that.

On a side note, if the Pistons have another losing season, does Dumars get fired? I think he might.

[rdnk]

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I'd love to see the Pistons go after Jerry Sloan or one of the Van Gundys, but of course, Dumars won't do that.

On a side note, if the Pistons have another losing season, does Dumars get fired? I think he might.

I don't think the Van Gundy's have interest.

I wonder if Gores brought in Jackson to warm him up for taking over the GM job when Dumars get the inevitable looking axe?

Our 1st in 2014 is top 8 protected. If they can make the playoffs or at least get the pick out of the top 10 then I wouldn't feel so bad about the Ben Gordon trade. That, or suck horribly and hope that the Pistons make the playoffs in 2015, where the pick is only top 1 protected.

[pietasterp]

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For once, if we end up in the lottery right where we're supposed to (statistically), I'd be okay with that. Although it's annoying to have to keep having this lottery conversation year after year....

I have always hated, and will always hate Phil Jackson. I hate that everyone thinks he's the greatest basketball coach (or even in that conversation) and that he's some kind of hoops genius. He was hired at an opportune moment in Chicago only because management had soured on Doug Collins' personality (who had taken that team to the brink of the title and surely would have won the next year), then rode that inflated rep to the Lakers, where he again inherited a team with 2-3 of the best players in the league and more or less distributed playing time to another sack of titles...he didn't "invent" the triangle offense (that was all Tex Winter), and never turned a struggling team into a contender. He's never coached a team without at least 2 hall of famers on it. The fact that anyone even thinks he's in the same ballpark as far as pure basketball coaching ability as guys like Larry Brown is crazy to me.

...anyway, what was the point of all that? Oh yeah; I don't know what we're going to learn from him as a consultant, other than "get a bunch of hall of famers on your squad then hire anyone you want as coach". I have no idea how he'd be as a GM, and neither does anyone else. I know that he doesn't know how to coach a young up-and-coming team from the lottery to the playoffs. Unfortunately, that is the task facing the Pistons right now, so why Phil Jackson should have anything to say about that is beyond me...

[rdnk]

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Pistons dropped a spot. I have a bad feeling Burke, Oladipo and Porter will be gone by then. They'll probably have to either take another big man, Shabazz or reach for another player.

[l3ulvl]

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I'm thinking Shabazz. Would rather just trade it for a pick next year and have 2 in that draft

Although it's probably more likely we lose ours next year to Charlotte. Dumars should find a loophole in the system and claim we traded the pick to the Bobcats, and since there is no team called the Bobcats anymore we get to keep it.

[l3ulvl]

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Plus it kinda annoys me that we won the coin toss with Washington to get the 7th spot, then they win one of the lotto top 3 spots. Didn't that JUST happen to us the other year?

I'd like to say "oh well this draft sucks anyway" but we still need help. Maybe we'll suck so bad we still keep the pick next year, but I can't root for tanking, I can't watch my team play and actually root against them.

[redsrule]

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My top 3 picks for this team in McLemore, Oladipo and Porter will all be gone. I hate Shabazz and don't want him either, but he is probably the best fit of the guys left. Who knows, maybe he won't be a selfish bitch in the NBA?
I'd much rather them trade this pick for next years class to honestly, and hope to get a top 5 pick, but I do agree that I can't root for tanking. Especially when they have a great nucleus in Monroe, Drummond and Knight.

[Psyblast]

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I hate Shabazz and don't want him either, but he is probably the best fit of the guys left. Who knows, maybe he won't be a selfish bitch in the NBA?

Giving guys like that money (....more money than he already has, I mean ) never, ever humbles them.

Drafting that cancerous diva would be par for the course for the post-2005 Dumars Pistons.

[redsrule]

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Giving guys like that money (....more money than he already has, I mean ) never, ever humbles them.

Drafting that cancerous diva would be par for the course for the post-2005 Dumars Pistons.

I agree, but I was trying to be optimistic. I've said it before, but his reaction when someone else hit the game winner at UCLA says a lot about him. He's a me player, and I don't think you should try and draft a guy like that.

[Psyblast]

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I agree, but I was trying to be optimistic. I've said it before, but his reaction when someone else hit the game winner at UCLA says a lot about him. He's a me player, and I don't think you should try and draft a guy like that.

He stopped giving interviews as a recruit to reporters who mispronounced his first name.

He's a lunatic. I bet Dumars can't wait to draft him.

[redsrule]

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He stopped giving interviews as a recruit to reporters who mispronounced his first name.

He's a lunatic. I bet Dumars can't wait to draft him.

Probably. Actually knowing Dumars he will draft a big man even though we already have 2 great young ones.

[pietasterp]

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I would say trade down, but who would be dumb enough to trade up into this draft? I don't care if Burke is gone (no, has nothing to do with him being a UM guy....) - although athletically he's great and just what we need from a PG perspective, I think his size is a major issue and defensively, I just don't see him being able to keep up physically in the NBA. If he were 4-inches taller he'd probably be the #1 overall pick. Oladipo I just don't see either; I'm not that impressed by what I saw over his Indiana career, and we really don't need Porter or Zeller. I would be okay with CJ McCollum or Michael Carter-Williams, but really, there's no immediate help for us in this draft.

In the end, I probably won't be too high or too low on whoever we do draft, but we can NOT, under any circumstances, draft Shabazz Muhammad. I wouldn't touch that kid with a 100-foot pole taped to a 100-foot pole. He's a locker room cancer, and has been a problem since high school (and probably earlier). He's a loose cannon who played for a loose cannon coach at UCLA who demanded zero accountability from his players and fostered an atmosphere of lawlessness and thuggery (which is why he is currently unemployed). Very few kids with his temperment and personality suddenly "figure it out" in the NBA and start getting their sh*t together, and even level-headed, reasonable people can lose their way once those NBA checks start coming in.

Frankly, I wouldn't mind at all if the 'Stones just punted their 1st round pick for nothing, saved the money on the guaranteed contract for the 1st rounder, and committed it to free agents or just banked it to hold on to our key guys down the line. Or, take a flyer on this German kid Schroeder, just for kicks - I mean, how can we go wrong drafting an 19-year-old phenom from Europe?