***Official Detroit Pistons Thread***

[redsrule]

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I think they should be able to find a good coach. Look at their team, they have an all star guy in Greg Monroe, another immensely talented big man in Drummond, and a solid young guard in Knight. They just need another guard and a good SF, but hopefully Dumars doesn't go out and overpay someone (again) just because they have the cap space.

[pietasterp]

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I agree that we should be able to find a good coach, the question is really whether we will identify and hire that person or not. Our decision-making with regards to the head coaching position to date has not been optimal, to say the least...

I like the van Gundys, or take a flyer on Laimbeer (although that could go south fast - his old-school, hard-nosed ways probably won't fly with today's spoiled prima donna babies making up most of the teams). Or maybe there's some young assistant out there no one has yet identified as a star that's just waiting to be the next Rick Carlisle....if we can figure out who that is.

[rdnk]

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I have serious doubts about landing a van Gundy. I read that Dumars is looking at Nate McMillan, Rockets assistant Kelvin Sampson, Heat assistant David Fizdale and Jerry Sloan.

As for the draft, I'm hoping for Otto Porter or Shabazz. They have the 7th, the 37th and the 56th picks.

Pistons have craploads of cap room and even more if Stuckey's and Charlie V's expirings get moved. They could certainly be moved for a team trying to free up long term space. I heard Tony Allen and Kevin Martin come up with regards to Detroit as far as FA goes. They also have to decide Knight's role moving forward.

[redsrule]

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No. Stay the **** away from Shabazz. He's got bust written all over him. My top 2 picks honestly would be Oladipo/Porter or trading the pick for one next year.
As far as the coach, if they can find one that can continue to develop Drummond, it will be great. He has so much potential, and definitely flashed a lot of it this year.

[Psyblast]

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Any pathetic shred of hope for this team swirls the drain if they draft that selfish diva Shabazz.

Either way, I don't expect Dumars to get it right. Fire this clown, please.

[pietasterp]

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I actually don't have that much of an opinion on who they should draft this year...no one really gets my hair to stand up on end from the names I've heard out there. I'd just as soon they trade down and get volumes of guys to screen during the summer than commit salary to a lottery pick.

I also am not getting my undies in a bunch about the coaching candidates I've heard...honestly, Kelvin Sampson??? Nate would be okay, but really, we need someone that can turn an aircraft carrier around. We're a reclamation project, not a tune-up. We need someone transformative. I'm not gonna hold my breath...

[l3ulvl]

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I wouldn't mind Shabazz, he has some similar negative labels against him that Drummond had. We need a scorer, and we need a wing. If we take him @7 I'm fine with it.

Anyone else hear that we're looking at a euroleague coach for our HC vacancy? Even though he's apparently the euro Phil Jackson, I don't think it's worth the risk, might as well just go with Nate.

[redsrule]

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There's a difference between Drummond and Shabazz. What Shabazz showed after Larry Drew's game winner during the season basically showed me I don't want him anywhere near our team. We need a scorer, but we can find someone that is a better overall player and not a me first player like Shabazz.
I hope we can somehow get higher than 7 in the lottery and get Otto Porter.

[l3ulvl]

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There's a difference between Drummond and Shabazz. What Shabazz showed after Larry Drew's game winner during the season basically showed me I don't want him anywhere near our team. We need a scorer, but we can find someone that is a better overall player and not a me first player like Shabazz.
I hope we can somehow get higher than 7 in the lottery and get Otto Porter.

I think we actually need a me first player, as strange as that may sound. I'd love Porter or Oladipo, but if everyone else is taken lets get Muhammad. Maybe my mind is clouded with thoughts of highly touted HS kids slipping to us, and thinking Shabazz fits the same mold, but if he wants to be the #1 guy, that fits with what we need. Right now Monroe is the #1 option and he's better suited as a complimentary guy. I wouldn't even mind Mayo in free agency for the same reason, I'm just worried he'd be like BG

[pietasterp]

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I think we actually need a me first player, as strange as that may sound. I'd love Porter or Oladipo, but if everyone else is taken lets get Muhammad.

Going to have to disagree on that one...unless that "me-first" guy is Kobe, I can't think of too many guys with that mind-set that have worked out in terms of building actual winning teams. Even Kobe isn't a winner without a really good/All-Star caliber supporting cast (Lakers were middling before that completely fabricated Pau Gasol trade).

Maybe my mind is clouded with thoughts of highly touted HS kids slipping to us, and thinking Shabazz fits the same mold, but if he wants to be the #1 guy, that fits with what we need. Right now Monroe is the #1 option and he's better suited as a complimentary guy. I wouldn't even mind Mayo in free agency for the same reason, I'm just worried he'd be like BG

Do you mean high school kids we've passed on, or that we've drafted? Because our history of drafting high school kids isn't exactly confidence-inspiring...(Korleone young, Amir Johnson...).

[l3ulvl]

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Going to have to disagree on that one...unless that "me-first" guy is Kobe, I can't think of too many guys with that mind-set that have worked out in terms of building actual winning teams. Even Kobe isn't a winner without a really good/All-Star caliber supporting cast (Lakers were middling before that completely fabricated Pau Gasol trade).

I think we do have a good supporting cast, just need that go-to scorer. We don't seem to have a guy that WANTS the ball, that WANTS to be the man. Shabazz fits that role and even though he's not my 1st choice, I wouldn't complain with him @7, especially considering the alternatives.

Do you mean high school kids we've passed on, or that we've drafted? Because our history of drafting high school kids isn't exactly confidence-inspiring...(Korleone young, Amir Johnson...).

I didn't phrase that very well, I meant the recent kids that have been ranked highly in HS by Gatorade or w/e recruiting service; Monroe, Drummond, and Knight specifically, that were expected to be studs going into college but didn't really flash enough or had certain knocks against them that scared GMs off. They've been falling to us lately and even though I'm still "meh" on Knight, Shabazz would fit that same profile of top HS players that slip after a year in college.

[pietasterp]

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I think we do have a good supporting cast, just need that go-to scorer. We don't seem to have a guy that WANTS the ball, that WANTS to be the man. Shabazz fits that role and even though he's not my 1st choice, I wouldn't complain with him @7, especially considering the alternatives.

That could be right. I just can't think of a time where that kind of guy has done well in Detroit, for whatever reason, although that doesn't mean it can't work (or that isn't what we need).

I didn't phrase that very well, I meant the recent kids that have been ranked highly in HS by Gatorade or w/e recruiting service; Monroe, Drummond, and Knight specifically, that were expected to be studs going into college but didn't really flash enough or had certain knocks against them that scared GMs off. They've been falling to us lately and even though I'm still "meh" on Knight, Shabazz would fit that same profile of top HS players that slip after a year in college.

I see what you're saying now. Recent drafts have been good so far for sure (at least the first rounders...our later picks have left something to be desired). I like that young trifecta a lot, I just think we need the right guy to come in and coach 'em up the right way. In other words, they need to learn to "play the right way".....

[redsrule]

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Nate McMillan seems to be the favorite for the head coaching job right now...

[rdnk]

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Nate McMillan seems to be the favorite for the head coaching job right now...

He did a good job with a young Portland team for the most part. If he was hired he wouldn't be a home run, but I don't know anyone out there who is. The other alternative is an assistant coach, which is boom or bust it seems.

[l3ulvl]

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Yeah he kinda got screwed with the Oden/Roy injuries, but I'd definitely welcome the hire