The 2015 New York Knicks: Year 1 of Life "After" Dolan

[bigeastbumrush]

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Summer of 2010.

Let's be clear, I do not like JR Smith. And I'm pissed Grunwald gave him of all people a Player Option.

But just because we have cap space doesn't mean big time players will flock here.

Melo re-signed here because we could pay him the most because we had his Bird rights. If the $$$ was even, there's no doubt I think he would've went to CHI or LAL.

So if we're stocking up for Gasol, Rondo, KD...I think we're making a huge mistake.

Mid-tier guys like Greg Monroe, yes...you have a shot at.

But this just makes me think we're gonna overpay some scrubs. It's our tradition..Phil or no Phil.

You don't save up cap space to not spend it.

What happens when KD inevitably stays in OKC?

We're gonna give a max contract to someone who isn't worth it.

JR is gonna win more games for us this year than he'll lose for us. And he'll have a bigger impact than Copeland who can't do anything other than shoot. Why did we get rid of Novak if that's the case?

Phil's pinching pennies if he makes this trade.

[ehh]

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I think it's a very different situation from 2010. We were an empty cupboard trying to attract two stars. Not to mention our front office and coaching situation was a mess. Overall it was not an attractive situation despite what most of us felt at the time.

Now we have already have a star, a better coach (yes, I'm saying it already - not that it's a bold statement since Pringles was dreadful) and a better front office assuming Dolan continues to keep his distance. Even if he doesn't, ridding the organization of its CAA imprisonment was a big step forward.

Anyway, JR needs to go regardless of it's this deal or another one. He's not a Fish/Phil type of player and no team is going to win with that fool playing a primary role. I don't care if he'll win us more games than Cope this year (which is obviously true). This season means nothing.

I have the same philosophy now that I did in 2010 - in the NBA you have to swing for the fences. You need multiple stars to win a title. You have to save up cap space and go for broke. If you swing for the fences and miss then so be it, in the long run you'll be in the same place that you would have been if you didn't. Bringing Greg Monroe here will accomplish nothing of value. Maybe get us a round or two further? It's pointless in the big picture.

[NYJets]

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Just my prediction, but I don't think it matters, I think JR is opting out. Seems like the type of guy who would want to get a new long term deal asap, and IIRC we wanted to make next year guaranteed but he pushed for the player option. And even though his value is down, it's not like he's making so much money that opting out is a huge risk for him.

Doesn't mean we shouldn't look to trade him, but I'd rather wait and see if we could move him in a deal that gets us something of value back.

[bigeastbumrush]

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I don't think JR. opts out seeing that we're going to have another lockout and player salaries will soar in the next CBA. He's in position for that.

The last FA market for him was zilch and he was coming off a Sixth Man award.

I wouldn't mind trading him either but not for a Chris Copeland.

At least we got fair value back for Tyson.

But salary dumping for a player that won't help us is assanine.

[bigfnjoe96]

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Wake the F Up Melo

Thanks

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[bigeastbumrush]

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I've watched part of the Wiz game and part of the Pistons game.

It seems to me that when Melo goes consecutive possessions (2 or 3) without getting a shot, the next time he touches it he forces it.

And most of his misses come outside of the flow of the system.

I could be wrong because again I haven't watched full games.

And here's hoping with Pablo out we get to see Shump at what I think should be his best-suited position of PG.

Like what I see from Jason Smith. Hope we can keep him here. Good rotation guy that fits.

[Hassan Darkside]

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When our offense is struggling Melo feels he must take it on himself to score. Against Detroit he just started chucking when we were down double digits.

Not sure how I feel about the prospect of Shump running the point. I don't think his handle is tight enough or his decision making good enough.

[ehh]

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Still the only team in the league yet to crack 100 points. Melo shooting 31% from the floor in the last four games.

[bigeastbumrush]

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They are who we thought they were, no?

1 "superstar"
2 overpaid expirings
And a bunch of journeymen mixed in with youth that has potential

Basically not enough talent across the board to make a dent.

Fisher toying with the lineups doesn't help either.

[NYJets]

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I think Calderon will help the offense a lot.

No real way to fix the defense though.

[Hassan Darkside]

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Time to just embrace the tank. #KnicksTank

[Jeffx]

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They are who we thought they were, no?

1 "superstar"
2 overpaid expirings
And a bunch of journeymen mixed in with youth that has potential

Basically not enough talent across the board to make a dent.

Fisher toying with the lineups doesn't help either.

Exactly. It's so refreshing coming here and chatting with intelligent Knick fans instead of the deluded clowns on social media.

[bigeastbumrush]

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JR is gonna win more games for us this year than he'll lose for us.

[Jeffx]

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It never fails....every player seems to have his career night against the Knicks. Evan Fournier??? Are you kidding me??????

[bigeastbumrush]

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I don't care if it wasn't considered "pretty".

But the Knicks have gone downhill ever since they have tried to be finesse.

That was never the case since I had started following the team.

Up until JVG left. After that with Wilkens, Don Nelson, etc., we've been on this finesse kick drafting players and signing free agents who were finesse guys.

That doesn't fly here. It may look good but it's not who were were. Imagine the Pittsburgh Steelers running a Chip Kelly Oregon Ducks-type offense. It may work but is that who they really are. Times change but your aura shouldn't.

We can say yes it's a lack of talent and poor management.

But the days of us bringing in tough, hard-nosed players is what I miss.

We lack dogs. Guys that would bleed on the court. You'll never see Joakim Noah or Zach Randolph not fighting for boards or not knocking someone down in the lane.

No team fears the Garden. They actually look forward to going there.

Wasn't the case not that long ago.