The 2015 New York Knicks: Year 1 of Life "After" Dolan

[jb12780]

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I was shocked how many people stayed through the end of last night. I guess that's the result of astronomical ticket prices.

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[NYJets]

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I was shocked how many people stayed through the end of last night. I guess that's the result of astronomical ticket prices.

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Or how the fans were still cheering and doing defense chants because we cut the lead to 16 with 3 minutes left. Either the most loyal fans ever, or everyone must have been so drunk at that point.

[mattlanta]

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Can someone please explain what exactly is wrong with this team? The right answer might be everything, but seriously... Is it the system? I don't even know if I can bring myself to believe that this team can buy into the concept of playing within a system. I knew the triangle offense would take a long time to perfect, but I had no idea it would be like this.

And out of curiosity... Is the consensus top pick Jahlil Okafor? Who else should we be looking at if the Knicks were to win the first overall pick?

[Vast]

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Can someone please explain what exactly is wrong with this team? The right answer might be everything, but seriously... Is it the system? I don't even know if I can bring myself to believe that this team can buy into the concept of playing within a system. I knew the triangle offense would take a long time to perfect, but I had no idea it would be like this.

And out of curiosity... Is the consensus top pick Jahlil Okafor? Who else should we be looking at if the Knicks were to win the first overall pick?

We don't have any good players except for Melo but I no longer have any confidence in the Triangle. It could obviously be a result of the terrible roster but I just see alot of passing & handoffs that don't really put that much pressure on the defense. The spurs motion offense is infinitely better at shredding the defense and making them make bad decisions.

If someone here that knows the Triangle & NBA offenses could tell me where you would rate the triangle in comparison to other Known offensive systems if every team had a perfect roster, I'd like to know.

[NYJets]

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And out of curiosity... Is the consensus top pick Jahlil Okafor? Who else should we be looking at if the Knicks were to win the first overall pick?

You just know if its determined this is a 3 potential franchise player draft we'll land the 4th pick.

Never could have imagined it would be THIS bad. I'd rather watch Eddy Curry.

[ehh]

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Major moves going down with Cleveland, possibly OKC too. JR, Shump and possibly Dalembert are gone.

Sounds like Waiters to OKC and maybe we get Reggie Jackson and picks. Smoke is still clearing.

[NYJets]

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Berman says a pure salary dump for us, we aren't getting any players back.

[bigeastbumrush]

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Phil came through and crushed the buildings.

JR gone

We got your tank right here

[jb12780]

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Okafor cometh.

Only gonna have THJR, Melo, and Calderon on the books for next year if my math is correct. Let the Zen Master work his magic with that cap room.

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[bigeastbumrush]

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Trade Exceptions:
$3.7M trade exception for Raymond Felton
$6M trade exception for JR Smith
$2.5M trade exception for Iman Shumpert
Total $12.2M

Cap Space:
Total $27M

Jose Calderon will more than likely be moved as well.

[greenegt]

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Cleaning house. I ain't even mad.

[Hassan Darkside]

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Can you clear me up on what exactly trade exceptions do?

Allows us to take more salary on in trade essentially. If you're over the cap (which we always are, we'll see what next year looks like), you can only trade for a player or players that make up to 125% + $100k of the salary you're trading away. The TPE is basically additional money we can throw in to make the salaries match.

So for example if we wanted to trade:
Player A who makes 5 mil for Player B who makes 10 mil we couldn't without a TPE. We could only trade Player A for someone who makes up to 6.35 mil (125% of 5 mil + 100k). But if we combine Player A with a 3.7 mil TPE, that would work. 6.35 mil (5 mil * 125% + 100k) + 3.7 mil TPE = 10.05.

I believe that's how it works. Someone can correct me if I'm off.

[bigfnjoe96]

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Information on the TPE's we received in the deals we've made so far:

What are the rules behind using the TPE?


Number 1:

Teams cannot use trade exceptions to sign free agents; they can be used only to acquire existing contracts from other teams. However, a team can acquire a free agent using a trade exception if he is signed by his prior team and traded in a sign-and-trade transaction.

Number 2:

Trade exceptions are not traded from one team to another. Sometimes it appears like this is happening when one team uses a trade exception to acquire salary without sending salary away, and the other team gains a trade exception in the same process because they sent away salary without receiving salary in return. However, the trade exception the first team uses and the trade exception the second team gains are two distinct exceptions.

Number 3:

Teams cannot combine trade exceptions with other exceptions (such as the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception or a taxpaying team's 125% plus $100,000 margin from another simultaneous trade) in order to trade for a more expensive player. For example, a taxpaying team with a $1 million trade exception cannot combine it with their $2 million player to trade for a $3 million player.


Number 4:

A common misconception is that players cannot be traded together in a non-simultaneous trade. This is not true -- players can be traded together as long as the deal can be constructed as separate, parallel trades in which the outgoing salaries are not aggregated. For example, trading two $10 million players for a $20 million player requires aggregation, and therefore must be simultaneous. But trading two $10 million players for a $12 million player can be accomplished without aggregation -- one of the $10 million players would be used to acquire the $12 million player in a simultaneous trade, and the other $10 million player would be traded for "nothing," in a non-simultaneous trade, gaining the team a $10 million trade exception


Note, this means you can combine the TPE with players if you can construct it as multiple trades.

My gut says these TPE's will be used to help facilitate trades this deadline(3rdTeam) to acquire picks and expiring contracts

[jb12780]

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So you're in Phil's shoes. What moves do you make?

I would obviously go after a big. Bring back the fear of driving down the lane.

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[Vast]

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Apparently Phil wants Reggie Jackson.