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  • thelwig14
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    • Jul 2002
    • 3145

    #61
    Re: 2k's boxing game set to be announced tonight...

    Originally posted by aholbert32
    They arent going to get Floyd for one reason...Money. He asked for too much from EA and thats why he wasnt in FN3. I'd rather have 2k (which has smaller game budgets than EA) use that money on getting 10 lesser known boxers than break the bank trying to pay PBF.

    Agreed. And also along those lines, I am sure the estates for Ali and the other greats demand just as high. I would much rather 2K go in the current or lesser known fighters than Ali and the bunch. For example, I would take the Klitschkos and the Kronk contingent in a heartbeat over a retired all time great. And I am sure there would be money left over.

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    • DA_Kenny
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      • Jun 2007
      • 471

      #62
      Re: 2k's boxing game set to be announced tonight...

      Originally posted by Benicio10
      Wow, the lack of Pretty Boy Floyd is a huge issue for me, and probably a lot of other casual boxing fans who want to buy the game. It's like having Madden without the Patriots.

      EDIT: Oops, didn't realize I was reading a wishlist. So only Pavlik is confirmed? Now I'm even more weary.
      Was Floyd in Fight Night'>? i dont think he was, there was some missing fighters in fight night also.

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      • DA_Kenny
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        • Jun 2007
        • 471

        #63
        Re: 2k's boxing game set to be announced tonight...

        Originally posted by Tha_Kid
        FWIW I enjoyed the Rocky games but hope they look at using the right stick. Hopefully they've advanced the fighting system since.
        The right stick feature that was in FN, wasnt that good. But they should use both sticks so they kinda become your left and right hands

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        • thelwig14
          Banned
          • Jul 2002
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          #64
          Re: 2k's boxing game set to be announced tonight...

          Never understood why people thought the right stick was so great in Fight Night. It was actually the most unrealistic control device I have seen in a sports game. There really is no difference in effort between a jab, hook, and uppercut. It is about angles and choice. But the right stick makes all the punches fundamentally different by requiring effort.

          2K should focus on angles, stamina, and defense.

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          • Rainey
            MVP
            • Jul 2002
            • 4507

            #65
            Re: 2k's boxing game set to be announced tonight...

            I am very interested to see how this turns out. I need a boxing game to add to the collection lol
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            • jmood88
              Sean Payton: Retribution
              • Jul 2003
              • 34639

              #66
              Re: 2k's boxing game set to be announced tonight...

              Originally posted by thelwig14
              Never understood why people thought the right stick was so great in Fight Night. It was actually the most unrealistic control device I have seen in a sports game. There really is no difference in effort between a jab, hook, and uppercut. It is about angles and choice. But the right stick makes all the punches fundamentally different by requiring effort.

              2K should focus on angles, stamina, and defense.
              It was also really cheap to do haymakers all day. I always won by just winding up and doing haymaker, parry, then another haymaker.
              Originally posted by Blzer
              Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

              If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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              • thelwig14
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                • Jul 2002
                • 3145

                #67
                Re: 2k's boxing game set to be announced tonight...

                Originally posted by jmood88
                It was also really cheap to do haymakers all day. I always won by just winding up and doing haymaker, parry, then another haymaker.

                Yep. I would also love to give a special shoutout to the parry that would result in your hands falling to your side like you just hit a brick wall.

                So many factors go into Fight Night being purely comedic.

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                • Complex
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                  • Oct 2005
                  • 2494

                  #68
                  Re: 2k's boxing game set to be announced tonight...

                  Originally posted by aholbert32
                  They arent going to get Floyd for one reason...Money. He asked for too much from EA and thats why he wasnt in FN3. I'd rather have 2k (which has smaller game budgets than EA) use that money on getting 10 lesser known boxers than break the bank trying to pay PBF.
                  I would rather them just capture the sport of boxing in its truest form and give me ultimate custom options.
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                  • metallicatz
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 1869

                    #69
                    Re: 2k's boxing game set to be announced tonight...

                    I like the analog stick control scheme much better than the dated button layout. Despite Fight Night's flaws.........the game is WORLDS better than anything Venom has done in a boxing game. Seriously, am I the only one that actually played those Rocky games? They were fun for about 2 hours (if that). You could literally jab your way to the end of those games. Virtually nothing has been said about this game and already everybody is making it their game of choice over Fight Night. I suggest you guys go rent Rocky again to get a taste of what Venom has done. Maybe if Visual Concepts was involved with this game i'd be more excited. But it appears 2k is making this game on the cheap by using a developer with a piss poor track record for quality boxing games. Any version of Fight Night is the ultimate sim standing next to those Rocky games.

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                    • jmood88
                      Sean Payton: Retribution
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 34639

                      #70
                      Re: 2k's boxing game set to be announced tonight...

                      I do like the analog stick way better than the buttons but EA didn't put it in right.
                      Originally posted by Blzer
                      Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                      If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                      • Seymour Scagnetti
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                        • Oct 2006
                        • 2489

                        #71
                        Re: 2k's boxing game set to be announced tonight...

                        Who cares whether this is on 360 or PS3. This thing is gonna be on the Wii, if that's doesn't give you a reason to buy a Wii then nothing will. Hopefully 2K gets it right with the mechanics and if they do it will blow the other systems away. Imagine going toe to toe and actually swinging for 12 rounds barely able to lift your arms by the final round. Now that would be satisfying. Who cares about superior graphics if you have total immersion. It's about time they started deveolping a good boxing game for the Wii and now that Top Spin is also coming out soon the developers have finally decided to make sports games that beg to be played on the Wii.
                        Last edited by Seymour Scagnetti; 12-13-2007, 01:18 AM.

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                        • thelwig14
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                          • Jul 2002
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                          #72
                          Re: 2k's boxing game set to be announced tonight...

                          I found the Rocky games superior to Fight Night.

                          The stamina and punch technique of the game were far superior. And it was more sim than Fight Night.

                          Where Rocky was real weak was moving and punching cohesively.

                          The button layout may be dated, but I will take dated and realistic over novel and unrealistic everyday. Fight Night control scheme is comparable to pressing more buttons to shoot a three, throw a pass past 20 yards, etc....

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                          • fadess
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 189

                            #73
                            Re: 2k's boxing game set to be announced tonight...

                            Originally posted by Seymour Scagnetti
                            Who cares whether this is on 360 or PS3. This thing is gonna be on the Wii, if that's doesn't give you a reason to buy a Wii then nothing will. Hopefully 2K gets it right with the mechanics and if they do it will blow the other systems away. Imagine going toe to toe and actually swinging for 12 rounds barely able to lift your arms by the final round. Now that would be satisfying. Who cares about superior graphics if you have total immersion. It's about time they started deveolping a good boxing game for the Wii and now that Top Spin is also coming out soon the developers have finally decided to make sports games that beg to be played on the Wii.

                            what about if the ps3 can use its motion sensor

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                            • Money99
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 12695

                              #74
                              Re: 2k's boxing game set to be announced tonight...

                              Originally posted by eko718
                              ^^ Sounds good but unfortunately, I can't remember the last 2K game that had a good CAP system.
                              NHL2K8. It's ridiculously deep. Even to the point of which teeth you can have missing.

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                              • Money99
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Sep 2002
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                                #75
                                Re: 2k's boxing game set to be announced tonight...

                                Originally posted by thelwig14
                                Never understood why people thought the right stick was so great in Fight Night. It was actually the most unrealistic control device I have seen in a sports game. There really is no difference in effort between a jab, hook, and uppercut. It is about angles and choice. But the right stick makes all the punches fundamentally different by requiring effort.

                                2K should focus on angles, stamina, and defense.
                                THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!

                                I like the idea of using the analog stick but not in the way that FN implements it. No pro or even amateur boxer needs to make such painfully deliberate movements to throw different punches. It's just as easy to throw a jab as it is a hook or uppercut.

                                If 2K was smart, and they wanted to use the analog stick for punches then it should go like this:
                                11:00, 1:00 = left jab, right cross (or vice-versa for southpaws)
                                9:00, 3:00 = left, right hook
                                7:00, 5:00 = left, right uppercuts.

                                It doesn't get simpler than that and it won't require much effort to fire off the various punches - just like in real life.

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