Countdown To Calzage-Hopkins 20 days away.

[aholbert32]

Re: Countdown To Calzage-Hopkins 20 days away.

Dude sells out 50,000+ seats everytime he fights why would u leave that to fight if your the undisputed undefeated champ?

So its OK for Joe to stay in the UK and fight average competition because he sells out fights in the UK and make alot of money but people dog Floyd because he took a money fight with De La Hoya? More hipocracy.

[JayBee74]

Re: Countdown To Calzage-Hopkins 20 days away.

I knew you couldnt come up with a list until some else posted theirs. You cant make an argument, your only argument is to attack mine. I post reasons that support mine. But like you said its your opinion.

Quick post before I go to work. ARE YOU SERIOUS??? I needed to see your list to make my own!!?? This isn't rocket science junior. Your on the fringe of absurdity now.

[JayBee74]

Re: Countdown To Calzage-Hopkins 20 days away.

You just helped make my point. He's 36 (has been fighting since 21),has 45 fights and has only fought one elite fighter in his prime. There is a problem with that. 15 yrs and one elite fight in his prime.

Would you at any point in Roy Jones career have put him on the Top 2 or 3 PFP list (question goes to Complex and BigEast too)? If so what ELITE fighters has he beaten????????

[JayBee74]

Re: Countdown To Calzage-Hopkins 20 days away.

Please list the fighters that Joe beat to earn #2 p4p, while everyone on that list below him has more quality wins.

Spoken by the guy who put Wlad #3 on his list.

[aholbert32]

Re: Countdown To Calzage-Hopkins 20 days away.

Would you at any point in Roy Jones career have put him on the Top 2 or 3 PFP list (question goes to Complex and BigEast too)? If so what ELITE fighters has he beaten????????

Yes....Roy has wins over Toney and Hopkins when they were young and in their prime(two HOF). Thats one more than Joe imo.

[allBthere]

Re: Countdown To Calzage-Hopkins 20 days away.

what does it tell you guys that joe is in the pfp discussion and hopkins is not?

I'll add that in hopkins prime, he lost to RJJ and beat ...?? 2001 beat tito out of his weight class.


to me pfp is about who is the best boxer in the game period. Not necessarily who you beat, but that obviously help. The kind of guy that could dominate at other close weightclasses. The ability to dish out a punch, the ability to take a punch, footwork skill, defense, combination skill, punch accuracy.

It would really make me happy for someone to test floyd's chin

[JayBee74]

Re: Countdown To Calzage-Hopkins 20 days away.

Yes....Roy has wins over Toney and Hopkins when they were young and in their prime(two HOF). Thats one more than Joe imo.

Toney definitely but Hopkins at that time? NO-A late bloomer,he is a better fighter today then he was then and at the time was in no way considered elite .Two year after the Roy Jones fight he won his IBF title off of a guy that knocked him down twice and fought to a draw forcing another fight between the two for the IBF title which he won by TKO. This stiff would eventually lose 8 of his last 9 fights by KO and retire. Like Calzage, Hopkins was a virtual unknown for several years, until his breakout victory against Trinidad. You would eliminate Calzage from a top PFP consideration based on that splitting hairs argument? Guys like Winky Wright and Jermain Taylor have been on such lists during their career. Why not Calzage. And back to Roy Jones-how many times has this guy been questioned for his lack of quality opponents yet was always considered a top PFP fighter? Ring Magazine currently ranks him #3 PFP.

[JayBee74]

Re: Countdown To Calzage-Hopkins 20 days away.

I think we've gone full circle with this.