Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

[C_Bailey24]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Difficulty: GREATEST OF ALL TIME
Number of Rounds: 12
Round Length: 2 MINUTES
Saved By The Bell: LAST ROUND ONLY
Three Knockdown Rule: NO
Referee Foul Awareness: 10
Referee Damage Awareness: 10
Boxer Power: 10
Boxer Speed: 5
Boxer Physical Damage: 10
Boxer Toughness: 10
Boxer Accuracy: 9
Boxer Stamina: 10
Counter Punch Window: 7
CPU Offensive Awareness: 10
CPU Defensive Awareness: 10
CPU Punch Output: 0

Good sliders. Saw lots of cuts and swelling. In one fight i was Cotto vs Moseley(cpu) and had his left eye completely shut and his right eye about 1/4 shut before i knocked him out in the 8th. Only problem is in all the fights the only getting cut and swole was the CPU. I never was cut or swolen. I used Manfredo Jr for about 5 fights and Cotto for 2. Don't know why its one sided like that.

[Cycloniac]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Cycloniac’s TrueToLife Sliders
Difficulty: Pro
Rounds: 12
Round Length: 2 Minutes
Saved By The Bell: Off
3 Knockdown Rule: Off
Ref Foul Awareness: Maxed
Ref Damage Awareness: Maxed
Boxer Power: 6
Boxer Speed: 3
Boxer Physical Damage: Maxed
Boxer Toughness: 9
Boxer Accuracy: 0
Boxer Stamina: 6
Counter Punch Window: 0
CPU Offensive Awareness: 6
CPU Defensive Awareness: 6
CPU Punch Output: 0

Note: In conjuction with these sliders, boxers cuts and swelling ratings were lowered by 50 points each.

Ali vs. Frazier (CPU vs CPU)

Ali boxes his way to a unanimous decision: 118-110
Punch Stats
Ali
Total: 315/677 (46%)
Head: 238/536 (44%)
Body: 77/141 (54%)
Jabs: 204/370 (55%)
Straights: 94/248 (37%)
Left Hooks: 9/21 (42%)
Right Hooks: 4/20 (20%)
Left Uppercuts: 3/15 (20%)
Right Uppercuts: 1/3 (33%)
Power Punches: 52/114 (45%)
Counter Punches: 7/9 (77%)

Frazier
Total: 224/551 (40%)
Head: 54/195 (27%)
Body: 170/356 (47%)
Jabs: 170/413 (41%)
Straights: 6/11 (54%)
Left Hooks: 13/42 (30%)
Right Hooks: 2/6 (33%)
Left Uppercuts: 25/57 (43%)
Right Uppercuts: 8/22 (36%)
Power Punches: 224/551 (40%)
Counter Punches: 3/12 (25%)

De La Hoya vs. Pacquiao (Me vs CPU)

Oscar De La Hoya wins it via 5^th round TKO
Punch Stats
De La Hoya
Total: 175/408 (42%)
Head: 101/282 (38%)
Body: 74/146 (50%)
Jabs: 67/164 (40%)
Straights: 49/113 (43%)
Left Hooks: 45/104 (43%)
Right Hooks: 10/20 (50%)
Left Uppercuts: 2/4 (50%)
Right Uppercuts: 2/3 (66%)
Power Punches: 17/37 (45%)
Counter Punches: 24/29 (82%)

Pacquiao
Total: 171/366 (46%)
Head: 129/301 (42%)
Body: 42/65 (64%)
Jabs: 40/78 (51%)
Straights: 72/163 (44%)
Left Hooks: 14/34 (41%)
Right Hooks: 11/26 (42%)
Left Uppercuts: 25/47 (53%)
Right Uppercuts: 9/18 (50%)
Power Punches: 61/128 (47%)
Counter Punches: 4/5 (80%)

[Cycloniac]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Feedback anyone?

[Sausage]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Feedback anyone?

I will try them, but do you find boxing on PRO a little easy? Have you lost yet?

[Cycloniac]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

I will try them, but do you find boxing on PRO a little easy? Have you lost yet?

I've lost before. I've found that pro provides a good balance, and if you need to make it more difficult, just bump up the cpu offensive/defensive awareness sliders to your liking.

Update: boxer speed increased to 6.

[Sausage]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Feedback anyone?

Big George-me vs Joe Louis-cpu
6th round ko victory
165-373 226-410
Stamina 80ish stamina 40ish
**AI stamina is broken, but maxing it out helps some**
4 KDs 1 KD

Punch accuracy 44 55 (I like the numbers here, but read below)
**Punch accuracy at 0 increases the force miss shield to much, so I will probably raise back to default 9**

Other than that they seem fine.

[Cycloniac]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Big George-me vs Joe Louis-cpu
6th round ko victory
165-373 226-410
Stamina 80ish stamina 40ish
**AI stamina is broken, but maxing it out helps some**
4 KDs 1 KD

Punch accuracy 44 55 (I like the numbers here, but read below)
**Punch accuracy at 0 increases the force miss shield to much, so I will probably raise back to default 9**

Other than that they seem fine.

Hmm, interesting results. The only concern I have raising accuaracy is the connect percentages. In boxing, connect percentages are in the 30s-40s. 50s and up just don't cut it for me. Thoughts?

[Aesop5upreme]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

The Official Aesop5upreme Fight Night Champion Sliders.It's a small hassle to make adjustments ,but I suggest for gameplay and simulation go weightclass specific.Let's build off the idea as a Fight Night Community and please give feedback.

Settings
Skill-Greatest of All-Time
Rounds-12
Time-2 minutes
Saved by the Bell-Optional
Three Knockdown rule-Optional
Ref Foul Awareness-Maxed Out
Ref Damage Awareness-Maxed Out

Weight Class specific:

Boxing Power as Follows Heavyweight 9,Light Heavyweight 8,Middleweight 7, Welterweight 6,Lightweight 6,All other weight classes below at 5.

Boxing Speed as Follows Heavyweight 4,Light Heavyweight 6,Middleweight 6,Welterweight 7,Lightweight 8,All other weight classes below at 9.

Physical Damage Maxed
Toughness 7
Accuracy 0 to 2 (Found higher the accuracy more on the button KO's and Arcade style connect rates,this at least gives some sort of simulation)

Stamina Heavyweight 0,Light Heavyweight 2,Middleweight 4,Welterweight 4,Lightweight 6,All other weight classes below 8

Offense Awareness Maxed
Defense Awareness Maxed

Punch-Output,Heavyweight 0,Light heavyweight 0,Middleweight 1,Welterweight 1,Lightweight 2,All other weight classes below 4.

And with much respect due to Cycloniac for the heads-up and lower your boxers Cuts and Swelling by 50.

Work in progress Tendencies.....Enjoy!

[Cycloniac]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

The Official Aesop5upreme Fight Night Champion Sliders.It's a small hassle to make adjustments ,but I suggest for gameplay and simulation go weightclass specific.Let's build off the idea as a Fight Night Community and please give feedback.

Settings
Skill-Greatest of All-Time
Rounds-12
Time-2 minutes
Saved by the Bell-Optional
Three Knockdown rule-Optional
Ref Foul Awareness-Maxed Out
Ref Damage Awareness-Maxed Out

Weight Class specific:

Boxing Power as Follows Heavyweight 9,Light Heavyweight 8,Middleweight 7, Welterweight 6,Lightweight 6,All other weight classes below at 5.

Boxing Speed as Follows Heavyweight 4,Light Heavyweight 6,Middleweight 6,Welterweight 7,Lightweight 8,All other weight classes below at 9.

Physical Damage Maxed
Toughness 7
Accuracy 0 to 2 (Found higher the accuracy more on the button KO's and Arcade style connect rates,this at least gives some sort of simulation)

Stamina Heavyweight 0,Light Heavyweight 2,Middleweight 4,Welterweight 4,Lightweight 6,All other weight classes below 8

Offense Awareness Maxed
Defense Awareness Maxed

Punch-Output,Heavyweight 0,Light heavyweight 0,Middleweight 1,Welterweight 1,Lightweight 2,All other weight classes below 4.

And with much respect due to Cycloniac for the heads-up and lower your boxers Cuts and Swelling by 50.

Work in progress Tendencies.....Enjoy!

Interesting set and thanks for the mention. I had the idea of wight class specific sliders myself, although my thinking is that with the power sliders the way you have set them, heavywight fights will be a bit too KO happy for realism sake. Let's not forget that the majority of fights end in descisions, regardless of wight class.

Since my initial set, I have been fighting on Champion, rather than Pro, so I will post my updated sliders very soon. Having done some tesing concerning the cuts and swelling tweaks, it may not be so simple as subtracting the boxers' cuts and swelling ratings by 50 (really hate the CAB 99 cuts and swelling glitch, by the way). Perhaps maybe setting the ratings into trigger quadrants.

Example: if a fighter has cuts/swelling in the 90s, move the ratings down to 50.
Or if a fighter has cuts/swelling in the 70s, move the ratings down to around 25.

Anyone feel like testing the above theory? Really open to others' inputs right now, as I've just recently reset the cuts and swelling ratings to default: too many early round TKOs.

[Aesop5upreme]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Interesting set and thanks for the mention. I had the idea of wight class specific sliders myself, although my thinking is that with the power sliders the way you have set them, heavywight fights will be a bit too KO happy for realism sake. Let's not forget that the majority of fights end in descisions, regardless of wight class.

Since my initial set, I have been fighting on Champion, rather than Pro, so I will post my updated sliders very soon. Having done some tesing concerning the cuts and swelling tweaks, it may not be so simple as subtracting the boxers' cuts and swelling ratings by 50 (really hate the CAB 99 cuts and swelling glitch, by the way). Perhaps maybe setting the ratings into trigger quadrants.

Example: if a fighter has cuts/swelling in the 90s, move the ratings down to 50.
Or if a fighter has cuts/swelling in the 70s, move the ratings down to around 25.

Anyone feel like testing the above theory? Really open to others' inputs right now, as I've just recently reset the cuts and swelling ratings to default: too many early round TKOs.

Excellent evaluation will try it out?Reason for Heavyweight power so high was the theory of high risk and reward,trying to force the user into a more tactical defensive fight.I agree most fights go to decision,trying to get the stamina to correlate with the power is a task,meaning 10 power in the 1st round is just as effective in the last round,which I guess we can consider the slider broken....let's keep the thread moving....good progress.

[chrisbosh4]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

What are the current sliders everyone is using after the latest tuner?

[DavonBrown]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Difficulty: GREATEST OF ALL TIME
Number of Rounds: 12
Round Length: 2 MINUTES
Saved By The Bell: LAST ROUND ONLY
Three Knockdown Rule: NO
Referee Foul Awareness: 10
Referee Damage Awareness: 10
Boxer Power: 10
Boxer Speed: 10
Boxer Physical Damage: 10
Boxer Toughness: 10
Boxer Accuracy: 9
Boxer Stamina: 7
Counter Punch Window: 7
CPU Offensive Awareness: 10
CPU Defensive Awareness: 10
CPU Punch Output: 5

[chrisbosh4]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Are these for the most recent tuner?? Will input them in when i get home. Thanks

[DavonBrown]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Are these for the most recent tuner?? Will input them in when i get home. Thanks

Yes they are.

[Benicio10]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Difficulty: GREATEST OF ALL TIME
Number of Rounds: 12
Round Length: 2 MINUTES
Saved By The Bell: LAST ROUND ONLY
Three Knockdown Rule: NO
Referee Foul Awareness: 10
Referee Damage Awareness: 10
Boxer Power: 10
Boxer Speed: 10
Boxer Physical Damage: 10
Boxer Toughness: 10
Boxer Accuracy: 9
Boxer Stamina: 7
Counter Punch Window: 7
CPU Offensive Awareness: 10
CPU Defensive Awareness: 10
CPU Punch Output: 5

These sliders are challenging, but not realistic, no offense. Punch output, stamina, accuracy need to go down. Maybe even to 0.