Maybe I should go back to that. I just don't like the high damage against a lower toughness. I will try six damage with four power and two toughness. I may lower the CPU DEF AI back to five and the OFF AI back to two, as the CPU landed way too many the last fight. I will update. I am about to fight to unify all three belts.
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Maybe I should go back to that. I just don't like the high damage against a lower toughness. I will try six damage with four power and two toughness. I may lower the CPU DEF AI back to five and the OFF AI back to two, as the CPU landed way too many the last fight. I will update. I am about to fight to unify all three belts. -
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I haven't tried these in legacy yet, though. Only fight now.Comment
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I KO'd the next guy in the third round, but it was after I tweaked the sliders some more. Still working on it. Still too much countering counters. I moved the power to five, toughness to three and the damage to eight. I moved the speed back to zero and it was much better. I will try with the damage at ten. I started out with it there, but I ran through several fights in two rounds or less because of the ten damage and two toughness. I will fight two more and retire this guy, because his swelling is about to 60. I unified the belts, so I am cool with being a HOF'er.With so many of the greats retired it gets a lot easier. I could probably fight 60 fights before losing. I will try to be in the top ten by the time I have fought twenty fights to be sue to mix it up with them from now on. I would move them down the ladder, but it screws up their records without changing their ratings and doesn't view them as an up and coming fighter.
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Current slider set, based on Parker's, before the fight.
Ref - both tens
Power 4
Speed 0
Damage 8
Toughness 2
OFF AI 2
DEF AI 4
Output 2
Starting first round of a mandatory defense.
I was having issues with it when I moved damage to ten, so on a whim I made power, damage and toughness ten and it felt a lot better. I will load a vid when I can. I will be turning down the def AI more as I don't like the whole countering my counters thing. If I can't do it (the CPU won't let me), then they shouldn't be able to. Maybe it has something to do with OFF AI. I am turning that down as well, as absolute cans are connecting way too much when I am dominating and trying to fight defensively and punch on the outside.
Update: KO in the fourth. I knocked him down with a three punch combo instead of a ten punch combo and when he got back up I put him back down when he tried to charge me instead of running.
My set after the fight:
Ref AWR both 10
Power 10
Speed 0
Damage 10
Toughness 10
OFF AI 1
DEF AI 2
Output 1
While I was typing the sliders I received and accepted a challenge from a very good fighter and this could be the fight I lose my belts. I will use the above sliders and see what happens.Last edited by acts238shaun; 07-07-2009, 04:29 PM.Comment
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Maybe I should go back to that. I just don't like the high damage against a lower toughness. I will try six damage with four power and two toughness. I may lower the CPU DEF AI back to five and the OFF AI back to two, as the CPU landed way too many the last fight. I will update. I am about to fight to unify all three belts.Recovering slider addict...Fight Night Round 4 caused me to relapse...Comment
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And therein lies the rub. With power and speed so low, some of the training games are impossible, making the mid-to-late legacy fights very hard and frustrating as you start fighting guys that are much higher-rated than you.Recovering slider addict...Fight Night Round 4 caused me to relapse...Comment
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Why not just change the speed for training?Comment
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I do. I have noticed physical damage causes more damage when a counter takes place. I may be seeing things, but it seems that way.
Update: KO in the 4th, but I haven't had a fight that good in a while. For right now I am using what I posted above. I couldn't just go in swinging, I had to respect his power. I was nearly knocked down twice, which had me regretting not training in my foot speed. In case anyone is curious, 10 power and toughness is not the same as five and five. You will get your clock cleaned faster on ten and ten.Last edited by acts238shaun; 07-07-2009, 05:01 PM.Comment
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1) Yeah it is..but it takes 10 seconds to do.
2) Why is it cheating? The training is abnormally hard to begin with and slowing down the speed is a necessity on with our current set of limited sliders. With the speed set to 8 on PRO I never received Champion level on most of the training exercises.Comment
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I believe that the speed lies in either (2) or (3)...I can't really test the sliders cause I'm still at work for 12 hours and going to the gym afterwards doesn't leave me much time. But I believe we can find the speed we need to go with Parkers Toughness/Damage Ratio. When I do get time I'm going to test them on both Champion and GOAT in both Fight Now and Legacy.
I seen a few post back that Jukeman said he was starting all over with his sliders cause he was countering the AI to much, and if he is running into this its just a matter of time before we all run into this issue. That's why I think that if we use Champion put the CPU Defensive Awareness at (10) to give good defensive fighters like Winky Wright when being used by the AI.Comment
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these are what im usibg now in my legacy mode(good for fight now too) my other set is good by I got tired of knocking down a can 4-5 times before he's KOed, with these my problem is solve and they are very challenging....More stuns than usual(early fights will be super easy to knock your opp out if you fight smart) but everyone is not a knock out and they force you to fight smart
also I felt fighting in a corner or the ropes had no affect at all....Not with these sliders....STAY AWAY FROM THE ROPES and CORNER Lmao!!!
Jukeman's Legacy Mode Sim Sliders
Champion/G.O.A.T.
12 rounds
2mins
save by bell off
knockdown rule off
hud off
camera wide
Ref foul- 10
Ref awr- 10
Power- 10
Speed- 0
Damage- 10
Toughness- 0
Off awr- 10
Def awr- 10
Punch output- 0
EDIT- The new Stamina, Accuracy and Counter window sliders will make these even betterLast edited by Jukeman; 07-07-2009, 05:56 PM.Comment
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I'll give your sliders a shot Juke, but that set makes me nervous to be honest. I can see a guy with 60 power catching my guy with 90+ chin and toughness and I'm staring at the ceiling. 10 power versus 10 toughness is kinda hard in itself. What's the difference between GOAT and Champion? It seems the CPU gets an unfair advantage as it is on Champion.
Edit: Nevermind...I saw the post up top. I wish I knew where I saw that screenshot though.Last edited by acts238shaun; 07-07-2009, 05:57 PM.Comment
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I KNEW there was a counter window slider that was supposed to be in this game!!! I posted a thread about this the other day. When are these going to be released? I knew I wasn't crazy, that I saw a vid or screenshot.
I'll give your sliders a shot Juke, but that set makes me nervous to be honest. I can see a guy with 60 power catching my guy with 90+ chin and toughness and I'm staring at the ceiling. 10 power versus 10 toughness is kinda hard in itself. What's the difference between GOAT and Champion? It seems the CPU gets an unfair advantage as it is on Champion.
Edit: Nevermind...I saw the post up top. I wish I knew where I saw that screenshot though.
I been running a couple fights with Lewis(me)vs Tyson, we had alot of decision and KO results...Just gotta protect ya head....Default and with my other set, I felt like I can take alot of shots to the head and still get off my punches, with these it fell like UFC!!!(danger of getting stunned or KD at any givin time) I even punched my opp's glove out the air(south paw Calzaghe vs righty Roy Jones) when we both threw a jab at the same timeLast edited by Jukeman; 07-07-2009, 06:09 PM.Comment
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