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  • parker002
    MVP
    • Oct 2004
    • 1465

    #1186
    Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by cneuy3
    Hi Acts and Parker,

    First of all thanks for the wonderful slider set. I've played almost a whole career with your slider set Acts and so has my friend with the CPU OFF AI at 9 and CPU DEF AI at 0.

    A couple of things that I feel have issues and maybe you can help me rectify.

    1) My friend uses his special punch in excess and can time it perfect and land it almost 2 out of every 3 times. I can do the same myself. We uses the ducking lead hook or ducking lead uppercut. I'm wondering if DEF AI should be moved to 5. I also notice it is quite easy to stick and move to your opponents body with this setting at 0. Since you moved the OFF AI to 5 have you ever considered moving the DEF AI back to 5? I haven't experiment but I think it would also make your opponents DEF less predictable.

    2) With Damage at 1 although it plays out realistic as far as I'm concerned with the actual bar damage/fight stoppages, etc. Visually I notice that guys get cut if every single fight. Since some have this at 10 have you ever thought about putting this slider back to it's natural position at 5? Maybe we/I would see less cuts.

    Ok guys. I think the sliders are really close to being perfect. These were just some issues of concern but not game killers for me.
    If you raise CPU defensive awareness at all, it will increase the jab-stun counters. It's really a no-win situation.

    And he has his damage slider at ONE, not 10. I play with it on zero, and don't see cuts all the often. See considerable swelling however.
    Recovering slider addict...Fight Night Round 4 caused me to relapse...

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    • acts238shaun
      MVP
      • Dec 2005
      • 2714

      #1187
      Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by cneuy3

      1) My friend uses his special punch in excess and can time it perfect and land it almost 2 out of every 3 times. I can do the same myself. We uses the ducking lead hook or ducking lead uppercut. I'm wondering if DEF AI should be moved to 5. I also notice it is quite easy to stick and move to your opponents body with this setting at 0. Since you moved the OFF AI to 5 have you ever considered moving the DEF AI back to 5? I haven't experiment but I think it would also make your opponents DEF less predictable.

      2) With Damage at 1 although it plays out realistic as far as I'm concerned with the actual bar damage/fight stoppages, etc. Visually I notice that guys get cut if every single fight. Since some have this at 10 have you ever thought about putting this slider back to it's natural position at 5? Maybe we/I would see less cuts.

      Ok guys. I think the sliders are really close to being perfect. These were just some issues of concern but not game killers for me.
      By lowering the CPU OFF AI to 5, it makes the CPU more defensive minded by not going after every perceived opening, therefore blocking more. Also, the CPU still throws a fair amount of punches due to the Punch Output at five, they just throw more in bunches instead of every perceived opening, therefore messing with their stamina. At nine OFF AI I can sucker them into counters. At five they are more patient, but more deadly. Also, is your punch output at zero? I had the same issue at zero, but when I moved the output slider to five it was a whole new ballgame, er, fight. Try my latest tweaks and let me know if you or your friend can still stick and move the gut or land sig punches at will.

      I don't go above zero on DEF AI because Tommy Morrison is as good at counter punching as James Toney if I go too high.

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      • Jukeman
        Showtime
        • Aug 2005
        • 10955

        #1188
        Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

        Updated my set

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        • parker002
          MVP
          • Oct 2004
          • 1465

          #1189
          Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

          I'm finally deep into a legacy. Going pretty well too.

          I unified the belts at Flyweight yesterday and about 10 minutes ago, I finished unifying the Bantamweight belts. 33-0 at 28 years old and ranked #1 PFP.
          Recovering slider addict...Fight Night Round 4 caused me to relapse...

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          • acts238shaun
            MVP
            • Dec 2005
            • 2714

            #1190
            Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

            Congrats man!

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            • parker002
              MVP
              • Oct 2004
              • 1465

              #1191
              Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

              Mandatory title defense coming up and then I'm hoping to get the chance to go to Featherweight and knock some dudes out there too!
              Recovering slider addict...Fight Night Round 4 caused me to relapse...

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              • parker002
                MVP
                • Oct 2004
                • 1465

                #1192
                Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                It never asked me to move up again. So I had to fight the same 4 Bantamweights over and over and over and over...really ruined the end of my Legacy.

                That being said, I didn't find a small issue with the sliders - damage was pretty out of control, even with it at zero. I didn't have a single fight stopped in my first 30. I had about 12 in the last 20. Not sure how to address that other than lowering Power.

                Anyway, I retired 52-0!
                Recovering slider addict...Fight Night Round 4 caused me to relapse...

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                • acts238shaun
                  MVP
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 2714

                  #1193
                  Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                  Power and Toughness at nine? I haven't tried it, but I will.

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                  • acts238shaun
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 2714

                    #1194
                    Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by parker002
                    Anyway, I retired 52-0!
                    What were your toughest fights?

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                    • parker002
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 1465

                      #1195
                      Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by acts238shaun
                      What were your toughest fights?
                      Middle of the legacy, between 15 and 30 or so.

                      It got pretty easy late, just because of the CPU fighting patterns. It was way too easy to bait and cut, bait and cut. Like I said, I had probably 12 TKO's in my last 20 fights.
                      Recovering slider addict...Fight Night Round 4 caused me to relapse...

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                      • acts238shaun
                        MVP
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 2714

                        #1196
                        Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by parker002
                        Middle of the legacy, between 15 and 30 or so.

                        It got pretty easy late, just because of the CPU fighting patterns. It was way too easy to bait and cut, bait and cut. Like I said, I had probably 12 TKO's in my last 20 fights.
                        That's why I lowered CPU OFF AI to 5, they got too predictable at nine and ten with DEF AI at zero. I lost the first fight against the CPU in a while when I lowered it. Sugar ray Leonard handed it to me because he wouldn't take the bait. At nine and ten OFF AI they are compelled to throw at every possible opening with a low def AI, therefore you can block up and when they throw a body shot step or block and counter.

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                        • JahMarLen
                          #QuestForSix
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 420

                          #1197
                          Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by parker002
                          I retired 52-0!
                          Nice..I'm trying to accomplish this as well, but came close to losing my first fight last night. Right now my record is 22(14)-0. Parker, I don't know how you do it bro. Lately each time I'd daze my opponent I tend to get cocky and go in for the kill, throw sloppy punches to get caught with a counter to drop my @$$...LOL! Each time I'd get knocked down I would then play it smart, work the body etc to either knock him out later in the fight or do enough to get the decision. I guess I've got to control myself before going in for the kill to accomplish this goal.

                          Question....I started my career on Heavyweight, later in you career will your boxer be asked to fight at a lower weight class? Or is this feature only available for the lighter weight classes?

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                          • Money99
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 12695

                            #1198
                            Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by montana2rice
                            Nice..I'm trying to accomplish this as well, but came close to losing my first fight last night. Right now my record is 22(14)-0. Parker, I don't know how you do it bro. Lately each time I'd daze my opponent I tend to get cocky and go in for the kill, throw sloppy punches to get caught with a counter to drop my @$$...LOL! Each time I'd get knocked down I would then play it smart, work the body etc to either knock him out later in the fight or do enough to get the decision. I guess I've got to control myself before going in for the kill to accomplish this goal.

                            Question....I started my career on Heavyweight, later in you career will your boxer be asked to fight at a lower weight class? Or is this feature only available for the lighter weight classes?
                            Only available for the lower weight classes.

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                            • acts238shaun
                              MVP
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 2714

                              #1199
                              Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by Money99
                              Only available for the lower weight classes.
                              Yup, WW to MW and Light HW to HW are the most fun to me.

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                              • JahMarLen
                                #QuestForSix
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 420

                                #1200
                                Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by Money99
                                Only available for the lower weight classes.
                                Cool thanks. I guess I'll roll with my HW for a while then start a new career, either MW or LHW.

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