Official Slider Discussion Thread

[TheCreep]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Man, you have to be very precise when playing on GOAT, the AI is UNFORGIVING. One slip up, lol, you will be knocked out swiftly, lol. I just started a new legacy, I'm currently 3-1 right now. My sliders:

1. Foul Awareness: 10
2. Dam Awareness: 10
3. Power: 5
4. Speed: 5
5. Damage: 5
6. Tough: 7
7. Accuracy: 0
8. Stamina: 3
9. Counter: 0
10 ÇPU OFF/DEF Awrn: 9
11. Output: 5

[parker002]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

My main problem right now is that I'm still out punching the CPU in every fight. I'm going to try and fix that by either raising the OFF awareness for the CPU a bit or by raising the CPU Punch output. I think you are going about it the wrong way by lowering the stamina. I think by getting the CPU to punch more aggressively it will not only raise their punch totals but lower mine because I'll be forced to defend more. Right now I"m throwing about 70 punches per round with my lightweight and the CPU throws around 45 to 50 on average. If I can just make them a bit more aggressive think the punch stats will even out on average.

Punch output just isn't very well implemented in the game. The slider doesn't even really work, at least not in a predictable way. Raising CPU offensive awareness will increase his punch output, but it will also cause him to "expose" himself to the counter quite often. I found that LOWERING offensive awareness actually made the CPU HARDER to beat.

Also, after hours and hours of testing, I can say with almost 100% conviction that the stamina slider has no effect on CPU punch output. Zero.

[parker002]

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I havent notice any power adavantages from the cpu on goat, they just land more flush shots than they do on lower levels...

I've tested it in Fight Now with various combinations of included and created boxers - AI punches do anywhere from 2 to 3x the amount of damage on GOAT that they do on Champion. And player punches do roughly half.

That may be due to "flush shots" as you say, but if it is, you certainly can't SEE it. All you can see is the movement of the health bar. I've tested it pretty thoroughly - the CPU definitely hits harder on GOAT.

[Jukeman]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

I've tested it in Fight Now with various combinations of included and created boxers - AI punches do anywhere from 2 to 3x the amount of damage on GOAT that they do on Champion. And player punches do roughly half.

That may be due to "flush shots" as you say, but if it is, you certainly can't SEE it. All you can see is the movement of the health bar. I've tested it pretty thoroughly - the CPU definitely hits harder on GOAT.

replay, just had a match against a brawler and I took zero flush shots had basically finish the fight with full health. He connect 25% and most of that was from jabs to the body

[parker002]

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replay, just had a match against a brawler and I took zero flush shots had basically finish the fight with full health. He connect 25% and most of that was from jabs to the body

How are you empirically measuring "flush" shots?

I can tell you that if I just stand there with my hands down and let the CPU hit me, that GOAT punches do more damage. I've done it probably 100 times, in order to make sure that I can see the same animations and connect spots.

Same animation, to the same spot on the face, equals 2 to 3 times more damage on GOAT. Whether that's due to an unseen power advantage or an unseen punch tracking advantage, it's still an unseen advantage.

I'm not suggesting it can't be overcome. Quite the contrary. It just makes "realism" difficult to achieve because you have to fight a certain way in order to overcome it.

[jb12780]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Anyone still playing this?

[Sausage]

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Non-stop since release. At the moment using Actshaun's sliders.

[yeiti79]

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Can you guys post your entire slider count for what you are currently using or better yet for what you have seen the best results with? Thanks

[Sausage]

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Can you guys post your entire slider count for what you are currently using or better yet for what you have seen the best results with? Thanks

See the 1st page and read through the thread for more info.

[lolspud]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Shaun's sliders are alright but the knockdown ratio is pure bull****, it's probably more down to the game but it's really unfun when you're trying to play through season mode and if you aren't using all of your training sessions on your chin/head toughness, you're going to be continually knocked down, whether or not you lose the fight. It's just not fun to have an opponent stunned then him just auto stun you and flatten you because you can't do anything about it. Ali does not have a paper chin for **** sake, argh.

[parker002]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

Shaun's sliders are alright but the knockdown ratio is pure bull****, it's probably more down to the game but it's really unfun when you're trying to play through season mode and if you aren't using all of your training sessions on your chin/head toughness, you're going to be continually knocked down, whether or not you lose the fight. It's just not fun to have an opponent stunned then him just auto stun you and flatten you because you can't do anything about it. Ali does not have a paper chin for **** sake, argh.

Practice, my friend. You'll get better.

In my 3rd Legacy (retired as GOAT with Erik Morales) I was knocked down 6 times in my ENTIRE CAREER.

[Sausage]

Re: Official Slider Discussion Thread

The sliders online in the "boxer search" in FNr4, the ones titled Warsooie..have been excellent for my style of boxing. I have lost more and have had several matches go the championship distance of 12 rounds. I believe they are combination of Acts/Parkers sliders. Great job.

[parker002]

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The sliders online in the "boxer search" in FNr4, the ones titled Warsooie..have been excellent for my style of boxing. I have lost more and have had several matches go the championship distance of 12 rounds. I believe they are combination of Acts/Parkers sliders. Great job.

Yes, they are.

[Duece]

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gonna try warsoosie, what difficulty are you all using with Warsooie?

[parker002]

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gonna try warsoosie, what difficulty are you all using with Warsooie?

Champion.