Boxing Off-Topic

[allBthere]

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I would definitely go for more control and not have any punch input generate anything random.

ok, so that would put the left trigger in play for inside fighting as well. (much more complicated but I think I can do it thanks for the input)

I have some leftovers as well so currently L1 and R1 and jab/striaght - but on the inside they are currently disabled. I was thinking of using them for a push off or something or maybe to paw at the gloves idk. Clinching happens automatically if you move close enough to your opponent.

Right trigger is currently not used at all - I was thinking of 1 of 3 things, either a feint at random with a few different versions (personal preference) - OR a modifier where you throw super weak punches but it allows you to move while punching (don't love it though as it will look awkward) OR a power modifier - I wanted to stay away from this though as I want the focus to be on boxing, moving, defence - power modifiers I think are way over-used and actually ditract from gameplay.

But if anyone has a great idea for the RT - share!

Last, the camera I keep struggling with. In a previous build I had a bunch of camera's and it actually cut just like a TV match which I thought was really cool. The downside is that it can at times be dis-orientating. But I think it's unique so I might go back to that. Otherwise if I do the thing all fighting games do which is keep the camera on a 2D axis in the middle of the 2 fighters, the 'sway' stick will always make sense because it's camera-relative, If I leave it the way it is or go TV mode, the sway's are character-relative which can be confusing.

Anyway, I want to push to tune it up after figuring out those tid-bits and publish it to the dreamsverse or whatever it's called.

Once I do that it should be a fun boxing game - I even added a small mechanic making it hard to be in the corners.

[Money99]

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Mike Tyson vs. Roy Jones Jr.
8 Round Exhibition
September 12th

Please tell me this will be a FNC Simulation...

https://twitter.com/i/events/1286332702254235648

I'll definitely be paying for this fight.
I make no apologies for this.

[edaddy]

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Mike Tyson vs. Roy Jones Jr.
8 Round Exhibition
September 12th

Please tell me this will be a FNC Simulation...

https://twitter.com/i/events/1286332702254235648

That’s exactly what it needs to be a simulation. This fight is not only a money grab circus but also dangerous for both fighters due to age and nuerological damage each has sustained due to a boxing career that included multiple knockouts and in Jones case being knocked out cold. I really question people’s boxing IQ when they say Tyson can compete with today’s heavyweights because he is in shape and hitting a heavy bag and mitts never mind he was punished and knocked out in his prime and basically was destroyed by a club fighter in his last fight on top of that has smoked weed done drugs and lived a unhealthy lifestyle for the last 15 yrs oh but he can hit those mitts and grunt while he is doing it. Jones at this point is pathetic and could literally get hurt at this point with taps. He also shows signs of numerological long term damage . How anyone can co-sign or support this is crazy trust me both will be tired and hugging within 2 rounds. After age 45 you are even more suceptible to being permanently brain damaged head gear. 12 oz gloves or not. There’s gonna be a lot of disappointed people paying for this fight when they see them in the ring.

[Money99]

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That’s exactly what it needs to be a simulation. This fight is not only a money grab circus but also dangerous for both fighters due to age and nuerological damage each has sustained due to a boxing career that included multiple knockouts and in Jones case being knocked out cold. I really question people’s boxing IQ when they say Tyson can compete with today’s heavyweights because he is in shape and hitting a heavy bag and mitts never mind he was punished and knocked out in his prime and basically was destroyed by a club fighter in his last fight on top of that has smoked weed done drugs and lived a unhealthy lifestyle for the last 15 yrs oh but he can hit those mitts and grunt while he is doing it. Jones at this point is pathetic and could literally get hurt at this point with taps. He also shows signs of numerological long term damage . How anyone can co-sign or support this is crazy trust me both will be tired and hugging within 2 rounds. After age 45 you are even more suceptible to being permanently brain damaged head gear. 12 oz gloves or not. There’s gonna be a lot of disappointed people paying for this fight when they see them in the ring.

Apparently they're using 12oz gloves and headgear.
I also read an article where Holyfield stated he was the original intended opponent and was approached for a "choreographed" fight.
Maybe the Jones fight will be the same?
Guess we'll find out.

To your point about the state Tyson was in at the end of his career; I have no delusions that Tyson could compete for a belt now.
However, I don't think he was the 'real' Tyson at they tailend of his career. He barely trained, was highly unmotivated and didn't even like boxing.
In his biography he stated that he didn't give a crap once he was released from prison. He did it because he was broke and it was the only thing he knew how to do.
He trained 2 weeks for both Holyfield fights and Lewis.

What's your point Money99?!?
I guess my point is that Tyson actually appears to be motivated now. He was on a radio show with Sugar Ray Leonard and got emotional with how much he missed boxing.
So I believe a motivated and properly trained Tyson could still be an entertaining draw against fighters of his age and calibre.
And I bet this PPV does great numbers; which speaks volumes about the state of today's heavyweight division.
Which I guess in turn leads to some feeling that a 54YO motivated and trained Tyson could be competitive against some of the gatekeepers in the division.

In other news, Ortiz Jr looked amazing.
He was pounding on Vargas - who deserves a lot of credit for taking those shots. What heart.

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[TarHeelPhenom]

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Apparently they're using 12oz gloves and headgear.
I also read an article where Holyfield stated he was the original intended opponent and was approached for a "choreographed" fight.
Maybe the Jones fight will be the same?
Guess we'll find out.

To your point about the state Tyson was in at the end of his career; I have no delusions that Tyson could compete for a belt now.
However, I don't think he was the 'real' Tyson at they tailend of his career. He barely trained, was highly unmotivated and didn't even like boxing.
In his biography he stated that he didn't give a crap once he was released from prison. He did it because he was broke and it was the only thing he knew how to do.
He trained 2 weeks for both Holyfield fights and Lewis.

What's your point Money99?!?
I guess my point is that Tyson actually appears to be motivated now. He was on a radio show with Sugar Ray Leonard and got emotional with how much he missed boxing.
So I believe a motivated and properly trained Tyson could still be an entertaining draw against fighters of his age and calibre.
And I bet this PPV does great numbers; which speaks volumes about the state of today's heavyweight division.
Which I guess in turn leads to some feeling that a 54YO motivated and trained Tyson could be competitive against some of the gatekeepers in the division.

In other news, Ortiz Jr looked amazing.
He was pounding on Vargas - who deserves a lot of credit for taking those shots. What heart.

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I'm more afraid for Roy Jones than I am for Mike to be honest. If its choreographed WWE style that's one thing. But if it's real you fear for their health... especially Roy.

[JayBee74]

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I really question people’s boxing IQ when they say Tyson can compete with today’s heavyweights because he is in shape and hitting a heavy bag and mitts never mind he was punished and knocked out in his prime and basically was destroyed by a club fighter in his last fight on top of that has smoked weed done drugs and lived a unhealthy lifestyle for the last 15 yrs oh but he can hit those mitts and grunt while he is doing it.

Yeah, even though I mentioned in passing that I'd look into Andy Ruiz-Tyson that was more a morbid curiosity. Ruiz would kill him.

[JayBee74]

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I'm more afraid for Roy Jones than I am for Mike to be honest. If its choreographed WWE style that's one thing. But if it's real you fear for their health... especially Roy.

Might just be a step up from Ali-Marciano, but not much more.

[allBthere]

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what you guys think of Oscar De La Hoya threatening to make a comeback?

I think he could have a few years after he retired, but not now. He doesn't even look like he worked out for 5 years straight

[Money99]

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what you guys think of Oscar De La Hoya threatening to make a comeback?

I think he could have a few years after he retired, but not now. He doesn't even look like he worked out for 5 years straight

Lol, did you watch the DAZN card on Friday?
The camera zoomed in on him and the announcers were saying how good he looked.
I was like [emoji102]?!?
He looked like your typical Golden Corral regular.

Who knows what his angle is. Who's he going to fight? At what weight class?

A Tyson-RJJ sparring session is intriguing due to their names and pedigree.
Watching a fat DLH fight some tomato can holds no interest to me.
But maybe if it was against Fernando Vargas I'd consider pirating the stream lol

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[JayBee74]

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But maybe if it was against Fernando Vargas I'd consider pirating the stream lol

Might have been Oscar's most satisfying victory even more so than his first bout with Chavez. Damn good fight too.

[allBthere]

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Lol, did you watch the DAZN card on Friday?
The camera zoomed in on him and the announcers were saying how good he looked.
I was like [emoji102]?!?
He looked like your typical Golden Corral regular.

Who knows what his angle is. Who's he going to fight? At what weight class?

A Tyson-RJJ sparring session is intriguing due to their names and pedigree.
Watching a fat DLH fight some tomato can holds no interest to me.
But maybe if it was against Fernando Vargas I'd consider pirating the stream lol

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no I got rid of Dazn - too much dead air for me - I wanted to see that card because I know Sammy Vargas personally and have shot with him a few times. He managed to become a solid journeyman and land himself some decent pay-day's. If you're not going to become world champ, you better figure out how to make as much money as you can and he managed to do that. A bunch of other guys out of our local scene have been unable to do that outside of Brandon Cook, who has done the same.

I have been watching all the top rank stuff and there's been some good scraps. That 14-0 KO dude (name escaping me) seems like a BEAST. The past 1.5 months or so my DVR has been getting a workout with those along with UFC events.

[JayBee74]

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no I got rid of Dazn - too much dead air for me -

Me too, I think just after Canelo-Kovalez. I wonder if it will cost me $19.99/month or $9.99/month if I was to re-up?

[JayBee74]

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I saw Max Kellerman's interview with Roy Jones this morning. Something I didn't know was that after Jones beat John Ruiz for the heavyweight title in March of 2003 he was immediately made a 2-1 favorite against Tyson in any possible future fight. Tyson had just KOed Clifford Etienne a month before Jones-Ruiz in a comeback bid after getting shellacked by Lennox Lewis eight months earlier.

My overall takeaway from the interview is that you can't take away boxing from Roy Jones and that this could possibly be more Creed-Drago than Leonard-Hope. I'm not sure either fighter knows what they're getting into. After all with a $49.99 price tag and Iron Mike trying to get a "Legends Only" league (with many sports included) going they might have to get serious.

[sheredia]

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I saw Max Kellerman's interview with Roy Jones this morning. Something I didn't know was that after Jones beat John Ruiz for the heavyweight title in March of 2003 he was immediately made a 2-1 favorite against Tyson in any possible future fight. Tyson had just KOed Clifford Etienne a month before Jones-Ruiz in a comeback bid after getting shellacked by Lennox Lewis eight months earlier.

My overall takeaway from the interview is that you can't take away boxing from Roy Jones and that this could possibly be more Creed-Drago than Leonard-Hope. I'm not sure either fighter knows what they're getting into. After all with a $49.99 price tag and Iron Mike trying to get a "Legends Only" league (with many sports included) going they might have to get serious.

it will be an interesting matchup, to say the least...especially since they were rumored to be matched up for years. jones is obviously the superior boxer, but tyson might still have the power, which is the last to go. roy's chin is suspect. might come down to conditioning and who has the better chin. kinda reminds me of rocky balboa with a comeback in his late 50's (which stallone was in amazing shape for his age). heck, put the winner in with anthony ruiz jr.

[TarHeelPhenom]

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I saw Max Kellerman's interview with Roy Jones this morning. Something I didn't know was that after Jones beat John Ruiz for the heavyweight title in March of 2003 he was immediately made a 2-1 favorite against Tyson in any possible future fight. Tyson had just KOed Clifford Etienne a month before Jones-Ruiz in a comeback bid after getting shellacked by Lennox Lewis eight months earlier.

My overall takeaway from the interview is that you can't take away boxing from Roy Jones and that this could possibly be more Creed-Drago than Leonard-Hope. I'm not sure either fighter knows what they're getting into. After all with a $49.99 price tag and Iron Mike trying to get a "Legends Only" league (with many sports included) going they might have to get serious.

Creed-Drago was the first thing I thought about when I saw this. I don't think this will be any type of scripted thing at all...and that's scary. Somebody needs to tell them this...