Boxing Off-Topic

**pk500** · 03-31-2017, 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by gmac0322

I would agree that he is entitled to soft punchers but don't try to throw a sorry ppv that no one is buying and act like they are a top contender. He is doing no different than what Floyd was doing or is doing with the Conor fight. I agree that it is completely for money because he needs it for his political career too.

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I never elevated Manny on a higher moral and fan-friendly plain than Mayweather. Both are in the 100 percent cash-and-carry portions of their career. They've earned that privilege through sustained excellence for the last decade or more.

**pk500** · 03-31-2017, 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by sheredia

i really can't see how floyd-conor could top that....at $100 a pop to boot. p.s. don't put it past conor to hit below the belt, fight dirty, etc. be careful what you wish for, floyd. lol.

You're assuming McGregor would hit Mayweather. That's debatable, at this point.

An absolute sham of a fight. And the global sporting public is stupid enough to buy it.

**sheredia** · 04-01-2017, 02:25 AM

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Originally posted by pk500

You're assuming McGregor would hit Mayweather. That's debatable, at this point.

An absolute sham of a fight. And the global sporting public is stupid enough to buy it.

that it is but don't forget what happened to ali when he fought inoki....his legs were hurt pretty badly and were never the same again after that debacle. if the global sporting public wants to know what to expect, watch that boring contest and then see if you want to pay $100 bucks.

**JayBee74** · 04-01-2017, 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by pk500

Beg to differ a bit.

One, Lomachenko only started fighting at 130 last year, two weight classes below Crawford. Plus Loma only has eight pro fights, a fact conveniently forgotten by many.

I thought Gmac was talking about Pac ducking Crawford. Face it Pac is ducking whoever he thinks will give him a fight at this point. I don't begrudge him making money anyway he can, but let his super-fans pay the freight.

Lomo isn't like any other eight fight pro, given his extensive amateur background (396-1) and the quality of non-pros that he's faced. He's already in the Pound For Pound discussion. That being said there is no need to rush him. He doesn't even need to go up to 135 for a while.

**gmac0322** · 04-01-2017, 03:14 PM

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Jay bee. That is exactly what I was saying

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**JayBee74** · 04-02-2017, 01:41 PM

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After his explosive KO of Curtis Stevens David Lemieux put off his vacation when presented with the opportunity to fight on the Canelo-Chavez undercard. He'll face Marcos Reyes.

Lemieux is pitching for a fight with "Yellow" but I don't think that's a bout Canelo will rush into.

**allBthere** · 04-02-2017, 09:13 PM

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Originally posted by JayBee74

After his explosive KO of Curtis Stevens David Lemieux put off his vacation when presented with the opportunity to fight on the Canelo-Chavez undercard. He'll face Marcos Reyes.

Lemieux is pitching for a fight with "Yellow" but I don't think that's a bout Canelo will rush into.

That's a fight I'd like to see though, for some odd reason it never occurred to me.

**pk500** · 04-02-2017, 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by allBthere

That's a fight I'd like to see though, for some odd reason it never occurred to me.

Fun fight, but Canelo wins by a fairly wide unanimous decision. He would outbox and counter-punch Lemieux into oblivion.

**sheredia** · 04-03-2017, 06:41 AM

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Originally posted by pk500

Fun fight, but Canelo wins by a fairly wide unanimous decision. He would outbox and counter-punch Lemieux into oblivion.

i'm sure canelo would rather face lemieux than GGG so don't be surprised if it happens...

**allBthere** · 04-03-2017, 09:21 AM

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Originally posted by pk500

Fun fight, but Canelo wins by a fairly wide unanimous decision. He would outbox and counter-punch Lemieux into oblivion.

at least Lemieux has enough power for the 'what if' moment. Canelo can be hit - I agree with you though.

**JayBee74** · 04-03-2017, 10:20 AM

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Originally posted by pk500

Fun fight, but Canelo wins by a fairly wide unanimous decision. He would outbox and counter-punch Lemieux into oblivion.

Alvarez has never faced a true middleweight, so if his first one is Lemieux there could be problems. The biggest puncher he has faced is 154 Kirkland, but he's a head case.

EDIT: LOL, slight correction because he will get a "weight test" against Chavez Jr in May.

**pk500** · 04-03-2017, 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by JayBee74

Alvarez has never faced a true middleweight, so if his first one is Lemieux there could be problems. The biggest puncher he has faced is 154 Kirkland, but he's a head case.

EDIT: LOL, slight correction because he will get a "weight test" against Chavez Jr in May.

Chavez has a better chin and punches just as hard as Lemieux. Neither Chavez or Lemieux are good boxers. So if Canelo gets through Chavez, expect the same blueprint to be used against Lemieux if they fight.

Canelo is sturdy for a junior middleweight. He looks big at 154, built like a wrestler.

**JayBee74** · 04-03-2017, 01:44 PM

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Originally posted by pk500

Chavez has a better chin and punches just as hard as Lemieux.

You think so? As a middleweight Chavez had a good body attack and was a sturdy puncher but he didn't have Lemieux's raw power. After Junior's middleweight career it's really hard to gauge him or even create a sliding scale to account for his power at 164 and a half. He is reportedly training hard for a golden opportunity but how much can he improve from the Fonfara fight, where he looked uncoordinated and non-threatening.

**pk500** · 04-03-2017, 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by JayBee74

You think so? As a middleweight Chavez had a good body attack and was a sturdy puncher but he didn't have Lemieux's raw power. After Junior's middleweight career it's really hard to gauge him or even create a sliding scale to account for his power at 164 and a half. He is reportedly training hard for a golden opportunity but how much can he improve from the Fonfara fight, where he looked uncoordinated and non-threatening.

Lemieux may have more power at 160 than Chavez only because he doesn't need to kill himself to get to middleweight.

Chavez is a light heavy masquerading as a near-middleweight. He'll be drained as hell in his fight against Canelo. But Chavez's punches can crack, and his jaw is tungsten, like his old man. Too bad he's beyond lazy in his training habits and can't box.

**JayBee74** · 04-03-2017, 08:16 PM

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Originally posted by pk500

Lemieux may have more power at 160 than Chavez only because he doesn't need to kill himself to get to middleweight.

Chavez is a light heavy masquerading as a near-middleweight. He'll be drained as hell in his fight against Canelo. But Chavez's punches can crack, and his jaw is tungsten, like his old man. Too bad he's beyond lazy in his training habits and can't box.

Yeah but Chavez's extra expansion after rehydration still didn't make him a lethal puncher.

I don't want to belabor the point, I'll just say that I consider Lemieux a special puncher (no small thing), but a mediocre boxing technician.

Agree with you on Chavez's chin-It will be very difficult for Yellow to stop him.

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