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On a better note. Jack looked really good. And I am watching the cotto Kami fight now. Man what a good fight
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As promised, here is a trip down memory lane with the hottest takes in this thread about Floyd/Conor. This is all in fun but this is what was said before the fight:
I think Connor will but up more effort that JCC Jr, but if he lands 50 punches the whole fight on Floyd he should get the decision win based on a sliding scale. -N51Rob
A Golden Gloves champ could beat Connor.- Money 99
the rocky-thunderlips match will be more entertaining than this stinkfest.- Sheredia
There are members of our local boxing club that would kill Connor in the ring.- Money99
I refuse to believe this is going to be a straight-up boxing match.- Money 99
Agree. This is Thunderlips-vs-Rocky. - Pietasterp
There are probably literally 10,000 amatuer fighters in the U.S. alone that would dominate Connor in a boxing match.- Money 99
Floyd could knock Connor out in less than a minute if he literally did no training, woke up and rolled out of bed and into the ring- Money 99
Connor's strategy will be to come out and swing like a toddler having a tantrum in Toys R Us.- Money 99
We all know McGregor is going to lose, but I don't think the average MMA fan realizes how badly he's going to lose.
Ivan Drago will cringe when watching this fight. -Money 99Comment
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I dont think anyone wants or thinks he will continue boxing.
Its absolutely fair especially because people said that he was fighting inferior competition compared to his 49 other fights. You cant spend 3-4 mos talking about how Floyd was going to destroy an inferior fighter and then switch it to "Floyd took his time" "Floyd had a different mindset" when the inferior fighter performs better than expected.
Conor won 3 rounds and you could argue a 4th against an all time great. 3 of those 4 rounds were competitive. Lets just give Conor his due and move forward.Comment
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If Connor wants to continue boxing he needs to line up 2-3 tomato cans he can destroy (quickly) then set up that Paulie fight. Get those 2 or 3 easy wins so his record is 3-1 with 3KOs.
Not sure what his plan is but if he wants to box on PPV again that's probably his best bet.
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After taking time to process the fight, here are some quick thoughts:
Conor's hyped punching power. His power was nonexistent. I expected it to a degree, earlier in the thread I pointed out that MMA guys don't hit as hard as boxers, but even I was surprised how slappy many of his shots were. His jab was by far his best punch. I don't think Floyd ever felt threatened by Conor's power
Age has caught up with Floyd. There was a specific time where I thought to myself time just Ko'd Floyd. Think it was the 7th round or so and Conor landed a jab. Floyd was visibly frustrated with himself because he knows he should not get tagged by that kind of punch. It is hard to tell exactly how much Floyd has regressed because he fought a style I never remember seeing him fight with, but I do hope he stays retired.
Floyd gave away rounds. He gave Conor rounds 1 and 2, without question. You don't throw a combined 12 punches in two rounds otherwise. To a degree this is typical Floyd to be a bit passive early and adapt to his opponent like he is The Borg or something, but it was far more pronounced this time. And after thinking about it, that should not have come as any surprise considering his opponent, but I confess to not anticipating it.
Conor's stamina.Holy hell he has none. Look we all knew he would run out of gas, but he started sucking air in the 6th round. He was tired in the 8th and 9th, but dude was suffering a asthma attack in the 10th. Can't help but remember a poster claiming MMA was more taxing. Yes even in MMA Conor's stamina is subpar, but I have serious doubts that he could literally go the distance in boxing. If it wasn't called when it was he may have just collapsed in the 12th. Which brings me to...
Does Conor push himself in training? Granted the fight had something of a shorter than usual turnaround, but damn Conor you are 28. Get your cardio in son.
Still, Conor impressed me. May seem like I'm hating on Conor more than anything, but at the halfway mark it was a competitive and balanced fight. Conor landed some blows, most were weak but he landed them. His counter punching was damn good, and I think his jab is good for anyone, let alone a guy making his debut. Just needs to learn how to turn into punches to generate power. And do some cardio
The stoppage.It was early, but unquestionably the right call in my mind. Go back and watch the last two landed punches. Floyd hits Conor, then Conor tries to get his upper body upright but completely forgets about his arms. Wasn't defending himself at all. The ref could have waited and there is little doubt in my mind that Conor would have either hit the mat, or been held up by the ropes while Floyd teed off on him. The early stoppage robbed the fans the chance to see that, but it was a foregone conclusion at that point.
Boxing vs MMA. Not vs as in which is better, but Boxing is not simply MMA with only hands. Both sports have a mental and tactical component that is just as important as the physical, and the tactics don't carry over to the other sport. Floyd had a proper strategy, but I think Conor's strategy consisted of "hit Floyd, try not to get hit."
On the other side of it, I'm not a MMA fan so correct me if I am wrong, I highly doubt Floyd's early round strategy would ever work in the UFC.
Final thoughts. It was a good one off event. Floyd should hang up the gloves for good, and I also don't really have a strong desire to see Conor box again. I didn't watch the fight to see an academic boxing display, I watched to see two showmen entertain me, and yes Maximus, I was entertained.Comment
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Great thoughts ggsimmonds.
I agree, I was really impressed with Connor's jab, counter punching and evasiveness (while he still had stamina).
Still, his boxing skills were at the novice level at best.
As you described, his punches resembled slaps more than punches.
In a post fight interview he lamented that he was never able to keep Mayweather at arms length where his power was better utilized.
Mayweather deserves credit for taking that space away.
But as good as McGregror's jab look, outside of slap-happy hands, he never showed any propensity to put together a decent combination. Not even a one-two.
With a smaller opponent forcing himself in, throw an uppercut. He did land one, but that's what he should have done more of the night.
Again, this is where his novice boxing skills were evident.
I said in a previous post that McGregor showed more skill than I expected from him.
But his boxing is still very raw and I stand by my assertion that Golden Glove champions would beat him.
Regarding his stamina, some people just don't have it naturally.
I can empathize with Connor. At various times in my life I've worked really hard on my stamina for various reasons; marathons, hockey, track, boxing...
It didn't seem to matter what regimen I followed, I've always struggled with it.
And Connor has a lot of muscle. I bet his body fat percentage is under 7%.
When you have that kind of muscle mass, it requires a lot more stamina to feed oxygen to those muscles.
McGregor should be proud of himself as should the UFC. They were represented well.
Especially with how gracious Connor was following the loss.
I was a fan of him before this fight and I'll continue to be a fan of his going forward.Comment
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Cleverly just announced his retirement after getting pummeled by Jack. Wise decision.
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Two judges gave Floyd a 10-8 round in the ninth.
Super Middleweight Special Event? So they fought at 168? (kidding) At least they got the date right.Last edited by JayBee74; 08-27-2017, 04:37 PM.Comment
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Held to form....So I just watched McGregor's Media Workout vid.
This will be a TKO..book it.
It was embarrassing to say the least. The guy did 12 3-minute rounds vs. a heavy bag. He was gassed and sloppy not too far in.
At this point I don't even feel sorry for the people spending money on this.
They should know better.
Sorry...but Floyd threw a total of 28 punches through 3 rounds. If you call landing 5 out of 12 punches in Round 3 being active then we must be talking about a different sport.
No moral victories man. Conor got paid and set himself up to get paid afterwards. We knew that going in.
Did he look decent? Realistically, he showed little to no power. Floyd hasn't walked down an opponent in probably 15 years.
Watching the fight on youtube, Conor's punches seemed more like slaps to me. His upper cut looked strong. But any shots from distance looked like pillow shots.
I give Conor credit for these reasons:
1. He was game.
2. His jab was effective.
3. He didn't fall.
4. He didn't make excuses which I thought he surely would.
Beyond that, this was probably Floyd at his worst. If he's telling the truth, he didn't spar for the past month to save his hands and it showed.
But Floyd did what you said he wouldn't do which is protect his record (which you said he loves more than his kids). There was no shoulder roll and he took Conor's best punch (the upper cut) and walked right through it.
Glad I didn't pay for the fight because it did look like a glorified sparring session beyond all the glitter and hype. Strip everything away and there wasn't much going on.
I wasn't impressed with the fight. I wasn't impressed with Conor (in a boxing ring). What I did like was watching Floyd totally disrespecting the punching power of a guy who was clearly bigger and stronger than him by staying in the pocket.
Beyond that, I hope boxing can move on and quickly. GGG/Canelo needs to raise the bar.Comment
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