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  • Find_the_Door
    Nogueira connoisseur
    • Jan 2012
    • 4051

    #61
    Re: Combo Spam

    Originally posted by Paledude45
    I need to see a video of this combo spam because I don't know how you would define it. Usually if someone just stands in front of me throwing non stop combos I can usually counter.
    I'll make one tonight of me walking someone down.
    Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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    • Steez On Lock
      Rookie
      • Sep 2016
      • 29

      #62
      Re: Combo Spam

      The strike output of a guy like Mark Hunt in this game is too much. Especially if the player can effectively break block down while still stalking

      After 120-130 strikes in 1 round he's fine if he cracks your chin. Rocking your opponent gives you a huge stamina regen in between rounds

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      • angel182x
        Rookie
        • Jan 2018
        • 84

        #63
        Re: Combo Spam

        Originally posted by RetractedMonkey
        We have fought like 6 times. It’s mainly Cruz vs Garbrandt but yesterday we played at LHW. You were Saki and I was Gus. Then Jones vs Gus.

        To be fair, I don’t have a problem with your play style. I only care if you were trying to get rid combos to suit yourself.


        Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports


        nah never that. i know most people who play don’t have the patience to sit back, make reads and take people into the later rounds. that and not mixing it up all the time are my biggest flaws. which is why you calling me out on my overhand-lead uppercut-hook combo is funny to me. i get mad at myself when i get locked into throwing it. i swear i know other combos!!

        add me if you’re down to play more. win or lose i won’t talk smack or blame the game lol.


        Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

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        • johnmangala
          MVP
          • Apr 2016
          • 4525

          #64
          Re: Combo Spam

          Originally posted by MartialMind
          I completely disagree with any form of additional stamina tax for blocked strikes.

          Again, this is a buff to block, and I personally don't want that.

          What we need are more ways to force a whiff with footwork, one that'll count as "evaded". This way with a combination of block, head movement, and footwork we can deal with hard combos by making them whiff... That's how we should be trying to drain their stamina.

          More on this later.

          Sent from my MI MAX 2 using Operation Sports mobile app
          Stamina tax to blocked strikes can be added if block has a stamina tax and/or slowed movement.

          There could be a nerf along with a buff so it is in balance.

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          • bmlimo
            MVP
            • Apr 2016
            • 1123

            #65
            Re: Combo Spam

            Originally posted by RetractedMonkey
            Look up the ESFL on twitch. I’m LemusKhan. I just fought at ESFL 8 (which you can find in the videos section, one of the last fights) and threw a grand total of like 78 strikes to win a three round decision.

            I can also play you if you’re on Xbox.

            Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
            Just want to see... maybe I change my mind after... thks

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            • RetractedMonkey
              MVP
              • Dec 2017
              • 1624

              #66
              Re: Combo Spam

              Originally posted by bmlimo
              Just want to see... maybe I change my mind after... thks
              I posted the fight link below that post. The guy I was fighting doesn't throw nonstop combos though. Almost no one does at the top level. I'd have to play a quick match to find someone who does that.

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              • bmlimo
                MVP
                • Apr 2016
                • 1123

                #67
                Re: Combo Spam

                Wasn’t a paced fight... I really enjoy watch it

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                • ImAnOlogist
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2018
                  • 381

                  #68
                  Re: Combo Spam

                  Originally posted by Find_the_Door
                  I'll make one tonight of me walking someone down.
                  Thank you, I would appreciate it too.

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                  • WarMMA
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 4612

                    #69
                    Re: Combo Spam

                    Originally posted by RetractedMonkey
                    Look up the ESFL on twitch. I’m LemusKhan. I just fought at ESFL 8 (which you can find in the videos section, one of the last fights) and threw a grand total of like 78 strikes to win a three round decision.

                    I can also play you if you’re on Xbox.

                    Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
                    You're a good player and you play realistic...I'll give credit where its due, but you're still missing the point. Even if I was the best player in the world and even if guys couldn't touch me with combos, i'd still be saying the same thing. The amount of long term stamina loss in between rounds isn't enough for the amount of strikes some players are throwing per round. Some guys are throwing almost 200 strikes per round and coming out with near same long term stamina as someone who is throwing way less. I'm not saying it should be some gigantic increase or anything, but a slight one is needed.

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                    • bigvinnylol
                      Rookie
                      • May 2016
                      • 70

                      #70
                      Re: Combo Spam

                      Originally posted by Find_the_Door
                      Why is there not a severe stamina tax for throwing missed or blocked combos in succession? Combos should be something that you are rewarded for timing with perfection and something you're punished heavily for if you resort to spamming it.

                      But if anything - my goodness a stamina tax is needed and I'm talking a big adjustment!
                      Here Door is again preaching exactly what I said when I saw the patch notes. Even though sway spam isn't dead, combo spam is definitely the new cheese

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                      • FCB x Finlay
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2017
                        • 1293

                        #71
                        Re: Combo Spam

                        Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
                        How much do you want to bet that in a few month's time everyone will be complaining about footwork spam?
                        Thats like saying using real life spam, i just dont think that would happen. Realistic things wont get complained about if they are somewhat balanced.

                        For example thompson, his fight style should be able to be created but currently thats impossible.

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                        • Find_the_Door
                          Nogueira connoisseur
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 4051

                          #72
                          Re: Combo Spam

                          Originally posted by bigvinnylol
                          Here Door is again preaching exactly what I said when I saw the patch notes. Even though sway spam isn't dead, combo spam is definitely the new cheese
                          Yeah when there's no stamina tax you really don't even have to play the game to connect the dots in that regard.

                          1) Reduced Block break down time

                          2) Reduced stamina loss on rocks

                          3) Reduced stamina loss from evaded strikes

                          4) Increased vulnerability

                          All of these things paint the picture for pressure combo cheese. It's infuriating that it's easy to see in plain text, but is generally defended when challenged.

                          Movement speed needs reduced, stamina loss increased and power increased in a general sense. This game would be much better.

                          Instead we have a TRT Vitor's Blitz 2018!

                          There's nothing intelligent or high level about Top 100 striking - it's let me beat on your block with 3 alternating combos that if you mistime your interrupt you're paying for it.

                          Such low risk to spam and alternate combos with immense potential for high reward.
                          Last edited by Find_the_Door; 03-29-2018, 11:24 PM.
                          Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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                          • Solid_Altair
                            EA Game Changer
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 2043

                            #73
                            Re: Combo Spam

                            Did the patch increase vulnerability? Of what?

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                            • bmlimo
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 1123

                              #74
                              Re: Combo Spam

                              Originally posted by Solid_Altair
                              Did the patch increase vulnerability? Of what?
                              Lunge I guess

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                              • Find_the_Door
                                Nogueira connoisseur
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 4051

                                #75
                                Re: Combo Spam

                                Originally posted by Solid_Altair
                                Did the patch increase vulnerability? Of what?
                                Of sways - damage. So in a sense when you go to evade using head movement (as it was intended) you're now punished even more when they're spamming combos and sways with alternating patterns.

                                Just far too safe to spam right now and not enough penalty. We should have to intelligently pick our shots!
                                Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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